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theodore said: Revolution said: You have a lot to say... I mean, you posted about 5 times on the thread, ie, you have alot to say...oh nevermind. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Revolution said: theodore said: I mean, you posted about 5 times on the thread, ie, you have alot to say...oh nevermind. Actions speak louder than words...emoticons I mean... | |
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Revolution said: theodore said: I mean, you posted about 5 times on the thread, ie, you have alot to say...oh nevermind. | |
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Anxiety said: Revolution said: Well, he has been a diva for a long time, but you MUST see my point, no? prince has ALWAYS and ALWAYS and ALWAYS been a pimp. ALWAYS. Is he a Diva or is he a Pimp, 'cause i'm sayin' he can't be both...??? Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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purplesweat said: Revolution said: I mean, you posted about 5 times on the thread, ie, you have alot to say...oh nevermind. Actions speak louder than words...emoticons I mean... Indeed | |
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Revolution said: Anxiety said: prince has ALWAYS and ALWAYS and ALWAYS been a pimp. ALWAYS. Is he a Diva or is he a Pimp, 'cause i'm sayin' he can't be both...??? he's a gemini. sure he can. | |
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Revolution said: Anxiety said: prince has ALWAYS and ALWAYS and ALWAYS been a pimp. ALWAYS. Is he a Diva or is he a Pimp, 'cause i'm sayin' he can't be both...??? He's a Dimp or a Piva - mix of the two | |
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purplesweat said: Revolution said: Is he a Diva or is he a Pimp, 'cause i'm sayin' he can't be both...??? He's a Dimp or a Piva - mix of the two Damn, if he can pull that off, he deserves the $$$ Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Anxiety said: Revolution said: Is he a Diva or is he a Pimp, 'cause i'm sayin' he can't be both...??? he's a gemini. sure he can. That's ghetto fabulous... Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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Revolution said: PurpleCharm said: The starving artist mentality is highly overrated.
Can someone post that quote of Prince talking about the days of being able to get over on black musician with a bucket of chicken and a Cadillac being over? I understand the man has to get paid, but (I think) the higher road for him to take would be RELEASING his CD material...sell the concert DVD's....stuff like that. This latest act of rubbing elbows with the high-and-mighty...Pricey, Pricey, Pricey stuff goes against his core audience. It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked. He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth????? [Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] | |
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yeah I do!I'd b the muthafuckin' same! | |
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Revolution said: skywalker said: All of a sudden? One word: Batman Yeah, but even that he kind of kept artsy/fartsy...I mean, could you imagine if KISS were involved in that project???? There were no partyman dolls (when you know damn well there could have been) I agree...it wasn't that big of a sell out..Prince kept the album cool, dark like, mysterious and Prince-ish...I love that album really and I actually think the Batdance song is pretty amazing, expecially the guitar solo! | |
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SCNDLS said: Revolution said: I understand the man has to get paid, but (I think) the higher road for him to take would be RELEASING his CD material...sell the concert DVD's....stuff like that. This latest act of rubbing elbows with the high-and-mighty...Pricey, Pricey, Pricey stuff goes against his core audience. It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked. He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth????? [Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] | |
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seems he's quickly recovering the $$$ lost in the divorce settlement to mani. | |
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SCNDLS said: Revolution said: I understand the man has to get paid, but (I think) the higher road for him to take would be RELEASING his CD material...sell the concert DVD's....stuff like that. This latest act of rubbing elbows with the high-and-mighty...Pricey, Pricey, Pricey stuff goes against his core audience. It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked. He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth????? [Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] well said SCDLS, my post will be much shorter thanks to yours. i agree. P, can't win for losing even amongst "core fans" on the org. Prince engages the capitalistic process on HIS terms. and your point about his "accessbility" to his fans was on point, esp. the intimate aftershows, but lest not forget HOW MUCH he tours. way more than any other major star. and averages an album a year, (or close to it) and we can't do anything but overanalyze HOW he chooses to "circumvent the machine", in his own words, cats need to "shut up already....damn" and btw, Batman was great artistry, classic Prince. an example of HOW to engage something so "mainstream" in your own way. | |
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oh, yeah. He NEVER earned money before, Warners never made mega money deals with him before. Now he's got to EARN it his own way, it becomes a problem. You bunch of fucking idiots! | |
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i liked batman
Prince has been very visible in the past year or so, and if it reaps him lots of $$$$$ i personally say, good luck 2 him, i dont really mind. He's obviously done a lot of homework, and the corporate way is the way 2 go especially on his terms- i mean, the superbowl ads we're classic prince. Corp work = more exposure= $$$$ = happy P= more releases=happy fans win,win besides, has anyone priced accomodation in retirement villages lately, maybe he's saving a nest egg. seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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datdude said: SCNDLS said: It's funny to me how everyone wants to sit in judgment of HIS decisions regarding HIS art and HIS marketability and commerciality when he has ALWAYS given back to his fans in various ways. I guess it's easy to sit in judgment and "overlook" the concert tickets for $31.21, intimate concerts in Vegas for $125 (when every other "star" is selling tickets to stale ass shows for much more), ridiculously intimate aftershows in Vegas for $50, etc. I can think of NO other artist who has consistently and regularly opened his doors wide to be closer to his fans like Prince has. People are always talking about how much of a recluse he is but name me another singer/performer that is even CLOSE to his level of fame that is this accessible and at least somewhat thoughtful of his fans. Do Madonna, U2, The Police, Celine Dion, Elton John, Bon Jovi, The Rolling Stones, Paul McCartney, et al sell reasonably price concert tickets and perform regular aftershows in small venues until 6 am???? Not the last time I checked. He is still a consumate artist and performer. And artistry does not mean you have to take a vow of poverty or limit your earning potential to appease some altruistic naive concept that making money is evil and at odds with being down or "keeping it real" as an artist. Whatever! Believe me, no starving artist wants to be starving they want recognition, status, and financial success. Stop the judging because I think that if you see him perform and listen to his music it is quite evident that "$$$" is NOT what matters most to Prince. Oh and BTW, if I had $300-400 million sitting in the bank you BEST believe Prince would have a standing mothafuckin engagement EVERY 3rd Friday of the month in my mothafuckin living room. And I'd direct deposit that million into his mothafuckin bank account. Okkkkaaaaayyyyy???? Do you understand the words that are coming outta my mouth????? [Edited 6/3/07 20:14pm] well said SCDLS, my post will be much shorter thanks to yours. i agree. P, can't win for losing even amongst "core fans" on the org. Prince engages the capitalistic process on HIS terms. and your point about his "accessbility" to his fans was on point, esp. the intimate aftershows, but lest not forget HOW MUCH he tours. way more than any other major star. and averages an album a year, (or close to it) and we can't do anything but overanalyze HOW he chooses to "circumvent the machine", in his own words, cats need to "shut up already....damn" and btw, Batman was great artistry, classic Prince. an example of HOW to engage something so "mainstream" in your own way. If I could be muse 2 the Pharoah...... | |
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Me thinks Princey didn't have a pre-nup since he doesn't believe in contracts or so he says. No More Haters on the Internet. | |
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2 Live the PIMP life style
U must have the Flow The Kind that's GREEN and the Kind That Grows It's NOT that Money Don't matter 2 night It's just that the Flow Helps shine the LIGHT. | |
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so If i'm a pretty light skinned girl the easiest way to get rich is to meet prince,bed and marry, divorce him and i'll be rich?
better than college! | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: so If i'm a pretty light skinned girl the easiest way to get rich is to meet prince,bed and marry, divorce him and i'll be rich?
better than college! seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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Revolution said: Whatchathank?
I mean...he could have had boatloads of money a long time ago, but kept his integrity for his artform. Now, shit, he's playing birthday parties for a cool million. Brotha has changed, dont you think? And, is this a bad thing? If anyone does, Prince deserves what he gets. Trust me - P was always about getting paid. He loves his BMW's, big houses, all those intruments and sending women on shopping sprees. He better cash in now...you never know when another "rave" period is on the way. * Rave period = not many people caring about you or your music. Prime aka The Kid
"I need u to dance, I need u to strip I need u to shake Ur lil' ass n hips I need u to grind like Ur working for tips And give me what I need while we listen to PRINCE" | |
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Anyone who thinks Prince's interest in money is a recent development doesn't know jack shit about Prince. Even at his most dogmatic and "spiritual" Prince has always made clear how important money is to him. There are many many songs where money is used as the ultimate symbol of succes.
Even when Prince is supposedly doing something for charity, he will always make sure that he gets payed first. What would in my opinion be a valid observation is that straight after ONA Prince has started to take people for all that he can. We are witnessing ever more exotic ways of seperating people from their cash. At the same time overall quality has been decreasing drastically (yeh yeh, I know 3121 and Musicology are the best things he ever did, except they aren't). And what's more, Prince doesn't seem to care. I flew out to Vegas only to find out that next to no attention had been payed to the audio mix in the room ... and this was a static setup that had been in place for months already by the time i got there. Then his next stop in Frisco again the same thing ... no attention payed to sound quality at all. The old Prince would dream of taking you money, and would work his little ass off to get everything as perfect as he could for his users to enjoy. The new Prince can now take you for your entire disposable income and then some, and just not bother with good shows, new music, fresh ideas. The Planet Earth album is gonna be another sleeper ... who needs music if you can just sell little bottles of colored water for $250 a pop. "this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre" | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: He's a sell out,
He use to be artistic like the great jazzers now hes just a hits for hire jingle man The "great jazzers" lived in a time where they couldn't do what Prince is doing. They lived in a time when black musicians (and black art forms) got crapped on by record companies. They weren't starving artists by choice. A "hits for hire jingle man" would be someone who is called in by lets say Verizon, and they say "Hey Mr. Nigger, make us a song about Colonel's Chicken and we'll pay you a few bucks, and everything will be sweet!" If you honestly think that's whats going on, you are an idiot. | |
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Klyph said: mirrorbestfriend said: He's a sell out,
He use to be artistic like the great jazzers now hes just a hits for hire jingle man The "great jazzers" lived in a time where they couldn't do what Prince is doing. They lived in a time when black musicians (and black art forms) got crapped on by record companies. They weren't starving artists by choice. A "hits for hire jingle man" would be someone who is called in by lets say Verizon, and they say "Hey Mr. Nigger, make us a song about Colonel's Chicken and we'll pay you a few bucks, and everything will be sweet!" If you honestly think that's whats going on, you are an idiot. Very well said. Maybe he should ssk Jackie Wilson what it felt like to be dangled upside down from a building when negotiating his contract... Baby, that was much too fast... 1958-2016 | |
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bonedaddy said: oh, yeah. He NEVER earned money before, Warners never made mega money deals with him before. Now he's got to EARN it his own way, it becomes a problem. You bunch of fucking idiots!
warners would never prostitute him though.... warners wouldnt have let him be a vegas lounge act! | |
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Money should matter to him ...he is almost 50. Like most folks he has to think about retirement and not having to tour or release albums every year to support his life. Youth is wasted on the young ..... | |
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nurse said: Let the brotha make his money
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