NuPwr319 said: mirrorbestfriend said: Prince could live off his ascap royalties no sweat....He only pays his band members $500.00 a week each so thats not that much....you dont need millions to produce art. all you need is food water and shelter.the other stuff is greed Why hasnt he done anything for new orleans to help? $500 a week???? You gotta be kidding me! *I* make more than that!!!! His band members are getting WAAAAAYYYYY more than that. And as has been mentioned before, he DID do something for New Orleans. And who knows who else he has helped--folks don't always but they bidness in da streets. Don't fall for this guy. He's baiting and trolling all over the Org. | |
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wonder505 said: NuPwr319 said: $500 a week???? You gotta be kidding me! *I* make more than that!!!! His band members are getting WAAAAAYYYYY more than that. And as has been mentioned before, he DID do something for New Orleans. And who knows who else he has helped--folks don't always but they bidness in da streets. Don't fall for this guy. He's baiting and trolling all over the Org. i noticed that too | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: bellanoche said: Also, I wanted to add that Prince has helped his people over the years. He has given so much money to Marva Collins' school here in Chicago. If you don't know, in 1975 Marva Collins started a school for inner-city black youth in Chicago because she felt the public schools system didn't care about them.
Prince was giving that school money for years. Everytime he came to Chicago he'd give them tickets to his shows as well and they often sell them as a fundraiser. His involvement with Marva got press because she was in the "Most Beautiful Girl" video, but their relationship goes way back before that. He might not walk around with a camera crew or do billboards and commercials to publicize what he does and promote himself to the world as a humanitarian, but he does do for his people. $10,000.00 is nothing to prince and thats all he gave that school? Where was he when New Orleans needed him? Has he been to the Lower ninth ward since Katrina? NO I would be more forgiving to his sellout if he was giving back to the people who started him!blacks and then he want to get mad at us because we didnt run out and get black sweat? Prince is worth 76.2 Million! what he need verizon for? what he need citibank for? its greed people. You are WRONG about how much money he gave the school. Are you from Chicago? Do you have kids who go to that school. It's called Westside Prepatory and I KNOW for a fact that he gave MUCH MORE to the school. He gave money and tickets to the school for years. My cousin and my hairstylist's son went to the damn school when he was giving the money, so check your facts. As my great uncle would say, don't tell me, ask me. It's clear that you are just hear to start crap. So I will ignore you from this point on. However, I am not going to let you just throw inaccurate information out there. Also, who said that Prince only pays his band members $500/week? Again, you need to check your facts on that, but I will leave it there. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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wonder505 said: NuPwr319 said: $500 a week???? You gotta be kidding me! *I* make more than that!!!! His band members are getting WAAAAAYYYYY more than that. And as has been mentioned before, he DID do something for New Orleans. And who knows who else he has helped--folks don't always but they bidness in da streets. Don't fall for this guy. He's baiting and trolling all over the Org. You're right. I don't even know why I answered. . . Wouldn't it be funny if HE was Prince?? | |
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adorable2 said: wonder505 said: Don't fall for this guy. He's baiting and trolling all over the Org. i noticed that too And since we've found out the truth about this guy. . can't we just ????? | |
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'Viagra'?? mirrorbestfriend is already a BIG COCK!!
peeps, let this shit die, he's having too much fun already. | |
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NuPwr319 said: adorable2 said: i noticed that too And since we've found out the truth about this guy. . can't we just ????? cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... Space for sale... | |
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i hope u know that everything u said is utter bullshit.
1. Prince doesnt need Viagra 2. its not selling out. its promotion. 3. ppl have been bitching about this for years. stfu 4. dont like it? listen to somebody else. | |
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sosgemini said: NuPwr319 said: And since we've found out the truth about this guy. . can't we just ????? cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... oh c'mon. Negative criticism is welcomed and some have been well written and thought out, but in this instant this person is baiting. Just look at some of his posts. | |
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wonder505 said: sosgemini said: cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... oh c'mon. Negative criticism is welcomed and some have been well written and thought out, but in this instant this person is baiting. Just look at some of his posts. right. the majority of people here don't care if someone has something negative to say about P and or his music, but the person who started this thread is clearly trying to get a rise out of people on this and other threads... | |
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Klyph said: bellanoche said: Uhm, that's incorrect. It's great to have discourse and differing opinions, but it should be accurate. "Soft and Wet" and "I Wanna B Your Lover" were all over black radio. Black audiences embraced Prince long before white audiences, which is why a conserted effort was made to cross him over to the mainstream with 1999 and Purple Rain. White people started listening to Prince in numbers around Dirty Mind, his third album. But black radio was playing Prince long before Purple Rain. Did I ever say Black radio didn't play Prince? What I said was for the most part Black America thought he was weird, and they did, way before Dirty Mind came out. That's one of the reasons trying to market him as the next Stevie or Michael failed, because he wasn't some cookie cutter , cute faced, accessible young black male. And you are right, we did like I Wanna B Your Lover and Soft and Wet, but the after Dirty Mind, black America starting turning away because of the "rock" sound. To give another example of the same syndrome, George Clinton started Funkadelic as a means of putting out his "rock" vision because Parliament, the funky shit, was what Black America liked. If he had just turned Parliament's sound into rock, it would have been disaster. When people say his "original" fan base, the make it seem like dude was all about so-called Black music for years then all of sudden switched! He made 2 albums before the "switch" and those 2 albums had their rock moments, one of which was a single that went basically nowhere on the black charts. (And actually, the first "consorted" effort was to make him be more,ummmm....Black.) [Edited 6/4/07 9:05am] Thanks for trying to catch my typo, but what I actually meant was "concerted." I typed an "s" instead of the "c." Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree, because I think it depends on which black America you are referring to. The Black America that I grew up in LOVED Prince. I think the latter albums were concerted efforts to make him appeal more to white audiences, because his first two albums were very much black audience/radio friendly. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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adorable2 said: wonder505 said: oh c'mon. Negative criticism is welcomed and some have been well written and thought out, but in this instant this person is baiting. Just look at some of his posts. right. the majority of people here don't care if someone has something negative to say about P and or his music, but the person who started this thread is clearly trying to get a rise out of people on this and other threads... Exactly. It's all gravy if people have negative or dissenting opinions, but they should at least be accurate and based on fact. Some of this stuff is so off the wall and incorrect that it's obvious that Wonder505 is dead on about the baiting. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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NuPwr319 said: wonder505 said: Don't fall for this guy. He's baiting and trolling all over the Org. You're right. I don't even know why I answered. . . Wouldn't it be funny if HE was Prince?? I was thinking the SAME damn thing like, "This muthafucka just rolled up outta nowhere, talking hella shit, getting folks all riled up, not making no damn sense . . . Princey Pie, is that YOU????" LOL!!! | |
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bellanoche said: mirrorbestfriend said: $10,000.00 is nothing to prince and thats all he gave that school? Where was he when New Orleans needed him? Has he been to the Lower ninth ward since Katrina? NO I would be more forgiving to his sellout if he was giving back to the people who started him!blacks and then he want to get mad at us because we didnt run out and get black sweat? Prince is worth 76.2 Million! what he need verizon for? what he need citibank for? its greed people. You are WRONG about how much money he gave the school. Didn't Prince present Marva with a check for $1 million on the VH1 Music Cares special in 1994 or 95???? Also, P is worth WAY more than that he made more than this on Musicology alone. . . As for what does he need sponsorship for? Everybody knows that rich people don't pay for shit and why would you come outta pocket if you can get a corporation to sponsor your performances and take a writeoff??? Basic Business Administration 101. . .Ding ding ding I guess school's back in! Let me stop cuz I ain't EVEN trying to get on THIS boat to Crazyville. LOL! | |
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sosgemini said: NuPwr319 said: And since we've found out the truth about this guy. . can't we just ????? cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... The minute the dude said "you never saw Jimi hendrix... doing cell phone commercials and credit card", it should have been obvious that he was baiting. Revolution started a similiar thread but I never sensed that he was baiting. On the other hand, this dude has been baiting all over this site. [Edited 6/4/07 17:14pm] | |
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PurpleCharm said: sosgemini said: cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... The minute the dude said "you never saw Jimi hendrix... doing cell phone commercials and credit card", it should have been obvuous that he was baiting. Revolution started a similiar thread but I never sensed he we was baiting. On the other hand, this dude has been baiting all over this site. But as MUCH as I HATE to admit it's actually been kinda entertaining cuz I knew this nutter was going to constantly top his own insanity and I've been a bit eager in my anticipation to see what madness would spew forth next. Please forgive me for this sin. LOL! [Edited 6/4/07 16:57pm] | |
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PurpleCharm said: sosgemini said: cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... The minute the dude said "you never saw Jimi hendrix... doing cell phone commercials and credit card", it should have been obvuous that he was baiting. Revolution started a similiar thread but I never sensed that he was baiting. On the other hand, this dude has been baiting all over this site. [Edited 6/4/07 16:57pm] Damn right...Prince is, was and always will be my boy...maybe i'm bitter because our man is being taken away for awhile to the corporate world. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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sosgemini said: NuPwr319 said: And since we've found out the truth about this guy. . can't we just ????? cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... Instead of defending an obvious troll, you as a mod should be giving him the smackdown. It's a new user (or someone else playing games under a new nic) who's jumping into various threads and just starting shit, not giving contrarion (??) opinions, but just spewing bs everywhere. | |
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Serena said: sosgemini said: cha know folks...the org will never be "diverse" if the minute someone offers a contrarion opinion folks start slamming them for "baiting". give somebody a freaken chance unless we want an entire website of this: just saying... Instead of defending an obvious troll, you as a mod should be giving him the smackdown. It's a new user (or someone else playing games under a new nic) who's jumping into various threads and just starting shit, not giving contrarion (??) opinions, but just spewing bs everywhere. back down Ethel... i don't moderate this forum but i looked over the posts and i dont see baiting...i see two sides being very opinionated about the subject. folks are accusing a statement about jimmy hendrix to be baiting? come on noq folks...just because a person's opinion is different then yours doesnt mean they are baiting. you yourself turn the discussion personal by making accusations. debate. and if you dont want to anymore, dont. Space for sale... | |
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Did'nt some of you all know?...evey other artist/pop star is a 'sell out' all except his Royal purpleness! | |
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sosgemini said: back down Ethel... i don't moderate this forum but i looked over the posts and i dont see baiting...i see two sides being very opinionated about the subject. Ok Lucy. Well, if you don't think this person has been trolling, then why are folks saying it about other threads too? In this thread, it wasn't only the Hendrix comment, but what was said in his other posts too. | |
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Serena said: sosgemini said: back down Ethel... i don't moderate this forum but i looked over the posts and i dont see baiting...i see two sides being very opinionated about the subject. Ok Lucy. Well, if you don't think this person has been trolling, then why are folks saying it about other threads too? In this thread, it wasn't only the Hendrix comment, but what was said in his other posts too. i didn't see the other threads...just this one. Space for sale... | |
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I am not baiting I am just stating my opinion about how I perceived Prince to be above the corpotrate machine...I thought music was most important but now I see his fans dont mind if he preaches one thing for 30 years and does the complete opposite....and you will notice that if someone made a valid point i acknwledged it.....I'm sorry if I'm not a Prince is God can do no wrong type like some of you
prince only pays his musicians $500.00 a week salary! they get bonuses for concerts and gig but their contracts are $500.00 a week!!trust me I've seen one | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I am not baiting I am just stating my opinion about how I perceived Prince to be above the corpotrate machine...I thought music was most important but now I see his fans dont mind if he preaches one thing for 30 years and does the complete opposite....and you will notice that if someone made a valid point i acknwledged it.....I'm sorry if I'm not a Prince is God can do no wrong type like some of you
prince only pays his musicians $500.00 a week salary! they get bonuses for concerts and gig but their contracts are $500.00 a week!!trust me I've seen one i would encourage you slowing your roll a tad...before things get too heated one of this forum's moderators gets frustrated enough to take action...get your toes wet before you jump straight into the pool. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: mirrorbestfriend said: I am not baiting I am just stating my opinion about how I perceived Prince to be above the corpotrate machine...I thought music was most important but now I see his fans dont mind if he preaches one thing for 30 years and does the complete opposite....and you will notice that if someone made a valid point i acknwledged it.....I'm sorry if I'm not a Prince is God can do no wrong type like some of you
prince only pays his musicians $500.00 a week salary! they get bonuses for concerts and gig but their contracts are $500.00 a week!!trust me I've seen one i would encourage you slowing your roll a tad...before things get too heated one of this forum's moderators gets frustrated enough to take action...get your toes wet before you jump straight into the pool. ok | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I am not baiting I am just stating my opinion about how I perceived Prince to be above the corpotrate machine...I thought music was most important but now I see his fans dont mind if he preaches one thing for 30 years and does the complete opposite....and you will notice that if someone made a valid point i acknwledged it.....I'm sorry if I'm not a Prince is God can do no wrong type like some of you
prince only pays his musicians $500.00 a week salary! they get bonuses for concerts and gig but their contracts are $500.00 a week!!trust me I've seen one just out of curiosity, where did you see this document and who was in his band? what is the going rate for musicians and why would his musicians stay with him for so long, years upon years for some, if they could get more elsewhere? Morris Hayes have been with him for almost 20 years, Renato has some time in their too. Cora and Josh have been playing for over a year now. Not to mention Rhonda, Michael Bland certainly didn't quit. $500 a week plus how much in bonuses from concerts and gigs? since you've seen these contracts. [Edited 6/4/07 21:47pm] | |
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Desire2006 said: I agree with mirrorbestfreind!! Prince seems 2 b getting more and more involved with the Corporate World, that a few years ago he was so dead against!!!!
Whats next? Car commercials, QVC, teleshopping programmes on cable, tours sponsored by BenGay????? By the way, lets hope he doesnt become like Santana, whose last 3 albums were nothing but mediocre duets albums!!! He's been there,...done that! Intelligent people talk about ideas. -->Average people talk about things. --> Small people talk about other people. | |
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bigwillpreacher said: Desire2006 said: I agree with mirrorbestfreind!! Prince seems 2 b getting more and more involved with the Corporate World, that a few years ago he was so dead against!!!!
Whats next? Car commercials, QVC, teleshopping programmes on cable, tours sponsored by BenGay????? By the way, lets hope he doesnt become like Santana, whose last 3 albums were nothing but mediocre duets albums!!! He's been there,...done that! QVC IS next.....he'll be selling jewelry with diamonds and pearls in the background | |
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It isnt called selling out it's called getting paid.
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