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Now you see why Prince needs to own his masters? So shit like THIS can never happen. | |
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FruitToAttractBears said: So shit like THIS can never happen.
I never really cared for that song originally, but that shit is EXTRA FOUL! | |
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Holy crap! I found something better than that in my toilet after a 3 day drinking binge.
On a serious note, I think under current copyright law, anyone can cover a song as long as the copyright holder is compensated. Not sure how it handles samples, but the penalty for this should be a severe kick in the balls at least. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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i hope prince sues him. that is utter rubbish. i never understood why all the chavs like that rubbish | |
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Mars23 said: Holy crap! I found something better than that in my toilet after a 3 day drinking binge.
On a serious note, I think under current copyright law, anyone can cover a song as long as the copyright holder is compensated. Not sure how it handles samples, but the penalty for this should be a severe kick in the balls at least. | |
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RumAndRaisin said: i hope prince sues him. that is utter rubbish. i never understood why all the chavs like that rubbish
Mommy what's a chav? | |
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Oh Lawd! | |
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I wonder if that sample was cleared. I believe that Prince would have to be asked for permission before using a sample of his song in this manner. The "owning masters" issue for the most part deals with Prince's right to re-release his older stuff on his own label (or another label). And of course the share of profits from the old songs.
If WB had such great control over Prince's masters as some might claim, how come you almost never hear Prince songs in commercials? The answer: because Prince has to give permission. | |
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purplehippieonthe1 said: If WB had such great control over Prince's masters as some might claim, how come you almost never hear Prince songs in commercials? The answer: because Prince has to give permission. Unfortunately this is incorrect. As long as the talentless hack pays WB for the use of the music (which they own) then nobody (not even WB) can stop them. The reason we don't hear Prince songs in advertisements is simply because nobody has felt the need to use them. Yet... "You've got a million dollar smile, but you can't buy time...
When you're running away, and you're a step behind..." ~Maxx | |
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Unbelievable! There should be a law against using someone’s music in the background 4 garbage like this. Do u think P has heard it or know of it? | |
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If there was ever a time to commit mass suicide via poison koolaid, the time is RIGHT NOW! X eternity! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Maxx said: purplehippieonthe1 said: If WB had such great control over Prince's masters as some might claim, how come you almost never hear Prince songs in commercials? The answer: because Prince has to give permission. Unfortunately this is incorrect. As long as the talentless hack pays WB for the use of the music (which they own) then nobody (not even WB) can stop them. The reason we don't hear Prince songs in advertisements is simply because nobody has felt the need to use them. Yet... So u mean 2 tell me Prince has no say-so in how his music is being used. Does he get compensated in any way? Also will his name get credit on there record as music by Prince? | |
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I thought both WB and Prince had to give permission to use his music. | |
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. [Edited 6/4/07 5:58am] | |
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Maxx said: purplehippieonthe1 said: If WB had such great control over Prince's masters as some might claim, how come you almost never hear Prince songs in commercials? The answer: because Prince has to give permission. Unfortunately this is incorrect. As long as the talentless hack pays WB for the use of the music (which they own) then nobody (not even WB) can stop them. The reason we don't hear Prince songs in advertisements is simply because nobody has felt the need to use them. Yet... LRC was used in a Chevrolet Corvette commerical. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: If there was ever a time to commit mass suicide via poison koolaid, the time is RIGHT NOW! X eternity!
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PurpleCharm said: Maxx said: Unfortunately this is incorrect. As long as the talentless hack pays WB for the use of the music (which they own) then nobody (not even WB) can stop them. The reason we don't hear Prince songs in advertisements is simply because nobody has felt the need to use them. Yet... LRC was used in a Chevrolet Corvette commerical. But it the Sign O' the Times movie version. Don't know if it makes a difference, but that was released thru Universal or MCA I think. | |
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pennylover said: Maxx said: Unfortunately this is incorrect. As long as the talentless hack pays WB for the use of the music (which they own) then nobody (not even WB) can stop them. The reason we don't hear Prince songs in advertisements is simply because nobody has felt the need to use them. Yet... So u mean 2 tell me Prince has no say-so in how his music is being used. Does he get compensated in any way? Also will his name get credit on there record as music by Prince? Nope. No say so at all. All part of American law written to protect the interests of large corporations. Prince would be compensated in some way via his publishing rights (which I'm sure he still owns). I do believe that he must be given credit (although last I knew this was still a bit of a grey area). "You've got a million dollar smile, but you can't buy time...
When you're running away, and you're a step behind..." ~Maxx | |
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Maxx said: pennylover said: So u mean 2 tell me Prince has no say-so in how his music is being used. Does he get compensated in any way? Also will his name get credit on there record as music by Prince? Nope. No say so at all. All part of American law written to protect the interests of large corporations. Prince would be compensated in some way via his publishing rights (which I'm sure he still owns). I do believe that he must be given credit (although last I knew this was still a bit of a grey area). Target used Baby I'm a Star. | |
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Maxx said: purplehippieonthe1 said: If WB had such great control over Prince's masters as some might claim, how come you almost never hear Prince songs in commercials? The answer: because Prince has to give permission. Unfortunately this is incorrect. As long as the talentless hack pays WB for the use of the music (which they own) then nobody (not even WB) can stop them. The reason we don't hear Prince songs in advertisements is simply because nobody has felt the need to use them. Yet... I think your mistaken...can anyone else clarify this for us? Space for sale... | |
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Pure crap that was but what can u do when u live in a shoe! | |
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The Artist always has to give permission for their music to be used in a
commercial. There have been numerous instances where a company has wanted to use a specific song for their commerical, but the artist has refused. | |
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a sample has to be cleared with 2 parties: whoever owns the master of what is being sampled, and the person that owns the the publishing for the song (songwriting). if the "sample" is actually a re-played segment of the song, and not a real sample from the record, it only has to go through the songwriter.
so, if this is an official release, Prince had to have approved it. also, I don't know if anyone's noticed, but ever since Prince's music publishing shifted over to Universal handling it, his songs HAVE appeared in more samples, commercials, and television shows. There was the Chevy ad with Little Red Corvette. One song was used on Eve's TV show, and there have been more samples. Not a lot, but more. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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Raze said: a sample has to be cleared with 2 parties: whoever owns the master of what is being sampled, and the person that owns the the publishing for the song (songwriting). if the "sample" is actually a re-played segment of the song, and not a real sample from the record, it only has to go through the songwriter.
so, if this is an official release, Prince had to have approved it. also, I don't know if anyone's noticed, but ever since Prince's music publishing shifted over to Universal handling it, his songs HAVE appeared in more samples, commercials, and television shows. There was the Chevy ad with Little Red Corvette. One song was used on Eve's TV show, and there have been more samples. Not a lot, but more. that's what i thought...but i'm not taking claim to be an expert of this subject. Space for sale... | |
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amg7 said: Maxx said: Nope. No say so at all. All part of American law written to protect the interests of large corporations. Prince would be compensated in some way via his publishing rights (which I'm sure he still owns). I do believe that he must be given credit (although last I knew this was still a bit of a grey area). Target used Baby I'm a Star. Yeah I saw that one too It didn't stay around long tho so I don't know what happened | |
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...fuckin rap haters...allow me 2 help out...(1) Weezy is actually a very talented writer (somebody on this site knows)...yes, we can all debate his subject matter, but all of us are subject 2 one or more vices- apparently one of his major ones is status-so of course it appears throughout his writing...(2) there is a good chance who ever made this beat had an appreciation for this song, if not Prince in general...sometimes i think is just trendy 2 hate people who rap instead of considering their POV...i love Prince 2...even more for his musicianship, but even Prince is subject 2 the music he grew up with...(3) this beat [sampling] D&P was already used by Cam'ron for his "Prince in Harlem" Mixtape...weezy just "hopped on it" as we spitters say..
...1 more thing...is weezy's pimp posturing that much different from the Prince who: Wrote Morris Day's "character"; Created "Vanity 6"; Answered an early interviewer by saying "Look at my Cufflinks"?.... (i know...shit-hop right?...) | |
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I kinda like the song Diamond and Pearls but they did it | |
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I liked it I like samples in music. Believe it or not I think it takes talent, a different kind of talent, but a talent nonetheless. Making love and music are the only things worth fighting for. | |
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