blackguitaristz said: chocolate1 said: Are U tired of hearing about "Purple Rain" every time some Prince reference is made? It is sooooo 20 years ago!
I know, I know- that is what he'll always be associated with, the same way people still call Madonna "The Material Girl", But LET IT GO PEOPLE! I was just at the gas station, and since it's a nice day, I had the windows down and the music high- "Xenophobia" from "ONA- Live" was jammin' Brotha attendant, came along boppin' his head, and asked me what I was listenin' to. I told him. His reply: "That's good, but 'When Doves Cry' was the $#!&. Purple Rain was his best stuff. He's been a punk since then." I just said, "I was a senior in high school when that came out. I'm gonna be 40 in August. It's time to move on." Well, that's "brotha's opinion. If it's one u don't agree with, that's cool, right? I believe I was the only one on this site that hoped to GOD that P wasn't going to play the song Purple Rain at the Super Bowl. EVERBODY as I recall, was swearing up and down, that P was definately going to play that song. Personally, I didn't want him to do it there because, damn player,...play something else. I saw P three times on the Purple Rain tour, when he played the song and it was fresh. Not saying the cat shouldn't play it today at his concerts but at the Super Bowl, I was hoping against hope that he wasn't going to fuck with it there at that setting. Obviously he did, and it was a nice performance. It's just that I"ve seen the facial expressions, I know exactly what P is going to play during the solo. So, I said all of that to say this. u asked brutha to move on. I can ask P that. I don't cuz it's his right to play that song the same way with the same exact poses and expressions untill the end of time. Yeah, it was his opinion. Just like it's my opinion that I'm tired of the "un-original PR commentary". I didn't say I was tired of the song per se... I'm planning on wearing my purple print skirt to work this week. SOME fool will say, "You're wearing that because of Prince, right?" and think he/she is funny. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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toots said: RumAndRaisin said: thats just what i mean, 1999 sott and pr are overated.
nps is brilliant, amazing. i love Come On and Push It Up. how can anyone not?? I sadly disagree with your post. Since your 14(from what your profile says), you obviously missed a great era when P's music was pure genious back in the early 80's. It was fun times to us who are older then you. Im 33 and grew up with P music of 1999, PR, ATWIAD, and that. I ,at the time of him rising to be a success, thought he was pure genious at that time and era. Kids, when will they ever learn? Part of me wonders if you've attached yourself so closely to New Power Soul because it most resembles the hip-hop stuff that's out these days? Seriously (and I say this objectively) New Power Soul should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Purple Rain, 1999, or SOTT . . . unless you are talking about best and worst. New Power Soul is brilliant?!! Do you seriously think they are overrated? Overplayed, maybe. How can 3 of Prince's best albums be overrated? I'm with Toots - I am 35 and spent my teens watching Prince rise to fame (I became a fan with the 1999 album). It's actually hard to imagine being a new fan now, looking back. | |
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Most people mention PR cuz its his best known work to the general population.
I'm 37 now and when controversy & 1999 were released i thought Prince was a band, not a singer.(pathetic, i know!) i hated when doves cry when it first came out (prob cuz my sister played it non stop)- but after seeing the movie PR it became one of my favs and put me on the road to finding out more about P.its even my ringtone!!!! That "Dead Horse" album brought P to the masses, without it, would he still be around today? I missed all the posts after the superbowl( faulty computers should be banned!)-but i loved P's performance of Purple Rain. I'll never tire of hearing about PR, good or bad! "Artist formerly known as" is another story!!! seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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Xagain said: blackguitaristz said: Well, that's "brotha's opinion. If it's one u don't agree with, that's cool, right? I believe I was the only one on this site that hoped to GOD that P wasn't going to play the song Purple Rain at the Super Bowl. EVERBODY as I recall, was swearing up and down, that P was definately going to play that song. Personally, I didn't want him to do it there because, damn player,...play something else. I saw P three times on the Purple Rain tour, when he played the song and it was fresh. Not saying the cat shouldn't play it today at his concerts but at the Super Bowl, I was hoping against hope that he wasn't going to fuck with it there at that setting. Obviously he did, and it was a nice performance. It's just that I"ve seen the facial expressions, I know exactly what P is going to play during the solo. So, I said all of that to say this. u asked brutha to move on. I can ask P that. I don't cuz it's his right to play that song the same way with the same exact poses and expressions untill the end of time. And he should be happy to do it. I hate it when the Prince's of the music business complain that people want to hear the old shit. It's not a reflection of the audience that they want to hear the old shit, it's a reflection of his inability to connect with as big an audience contemporarily, whether through his music, or his publicity stunts, or his cryptic "I'm a religious leader" spouting Revelations crap, or the fact that he's still dressing like it's the 80's. That's what we love him for, but to non-"fans" it's pretty ridiculous. Most people, when you ask them what they think of Prince, will say "He's a musical genius. But to the general public, he's a novelty act doing impressions of a much bigger star. I mean, I love him still. I'm just saying, that's why people who aren't Prince fans want to hear "Purple Rain." It's not their fault that they don't dig "Get on the Boat" quite as much. Agreed. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I don't mind the references to PR so much, especially from non-fans who really don't know any better. After all, it IS the song/album for which he received the most attention.
And the Formerly Known As thing, while annoying, is understandable as it may be the second thing he's known best for by the masses. What really bugs me are the constant "diminutive rocker", and "pint-sized prodigy" tags that are included in practically EVERY article written about him. What's the point? I've gone to find myself. If I should return before I get back, keep me here. | |
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HalluRain said: I don't mind the references to PR so much, especially from non-fans who really don't know any better. After all, it IS the song/album for which he received the most attention.
And the Formerly Known As thing, while annoying, is understandable as it may be the second thing he's known best for by the masses. What really bugs me are the constant "diminutive rocker", and "pint-sized prodigy" tags that are included in practically EVERY article written about him. What's the point? Both true, aren't they? Besides, he kind of makes himself an object of ridicule. Always has. | |
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Se7en said: toots said: I sadly disagree with your post. Since your 14(from what your profile says), you obviously missed a great era when P's music was pure genious back in the early 80's. It was fun times to us who are older then you. Im 33 and grew up with P music of 1999, PR, ATWIAD, and that. I ,at the time of him rising to be a success, thought he was pure genious at that time and era. Kids, when will they ever learn? Part of me wonders if you've attached yourself so closely to New Power Soul because it most resembles the hip-hop stuff that's out these days? Seriously (and I say this objectively) New Power Soul should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Purple Rain, 1999, or SOTT . . . unless you are talking about best and worst. New Power Soul is brilliant?!! Do you seriously think they are overrated? Overplayed, maybe. How can 3 of Prince's best albums be overrated? I'm with Toots - I am 35 and spent my teens watching Prince rise to fame (I became a fan with the 1999 album). It's actually hard to imagine being a new fan now, looking back. I cannot agree with you more on this Se7en. Sure, I STILL have my PR cd AND cassette(YEP still have it on cassette,though the quality isnt the greatest because I played it so much when it first came out). There is SO much difference from being a P fan of the 80's, then from todays new P fans. I also can say this, to me IMHO, 1999 and PR wasnt overated and overplayed(at the time of the 80's era). Just look at the artists today(other artists other then P) and in a few years they might be overated and overplayed as well. Oh the memories live on in our heads every time a PR and 1999 song is played, sad but true. BUT he will ALWAYS be known for 1999 and PR. Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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toots said: RumAndRaisin said: thats just what i mean, 1999 sott and pr are overated.
nps is brilliant, amazing. i love Come On and Push It Up. how can anyone not?? I sadly disagree with your post. Since your 14(from what your profile says), you obviously missed a great era when P's music was pure genious back in the early 80's. It was fun times to us who are older then you. Im 33 and grew up with P music of 1999, PR, ATWIAD, and that. I ,at the time of him rising to be a success, thought he was pure genious at that time and era. Kids, when will they ever learn? [Edited 5/27/07 14:08pm] differebt people have different tastes. i never said atwiad was overated, thats a very good album. lovesexy and parade are his best 80's albums for me. | |
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Se7en said: toots said: I sadly disagree with your post. Since your 14(from what your profile says), you obviously missed a great era when P's music was pure genious back in the early 80's. It was fun times to us who are older then you. Im 33 and grew up with P music of 1999, PR, ATWIAD, and that. I ,at the time of him rising to be a success, thought he was pure genious at that time and era. Kids, when will they ever learn? Part of me wonders if you've attached yourself so closely to New Power Soul because it most resembles the hip-hop stuff that's out these days? Seriously (and I say this objectively) New Power Soul should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Purple Rain, 1999, or SOTT . . . unless you are talking about best and worst. New Power Soul is brilliant?!! Do you seriously think they are overrated? Overplayed, maybe. How can 3 of Prince's best albums be overrated? I'm with Toots - I am 35 and spent my teens watching Prince rise to fame (I became a fan with the 1999 album). It's actually hard to imagine being a new fan now, looking back. i dont see why your so against nps, its a real good album, i hate hip-hop by the way. come on is a very good song and is one of my favs, i like emancipation best though. that wipes the floor with pr. 36 songs, each and evry one is awsome. holy river v pr?? no contest. | |
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that's what i love about manilow, he dont front on what the people know and love him for. if prince calls songs his children then continue to love and nurture the children.And if we want to keep loving them long after they've grown up then let us. the shit he's making now ( if i had to judge within this anology) are "new" kids with 2nd and 3rd spouses, "outside kids" cus he's definately left the house that most of his genuise resided in. yes they deserve love, but everybody knows it aint the same urgency and passion he felt when he created Purple Rain. i thought it was overrated when it came out, but the energy from the flick took it to that level. 1999 however is ...the masterpiece.Try finding filler on that album, you cant. | |
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RumAndRaisin said: Se7en said: Part of me wonders if you've attached yourself so closely to New Power Soul because it most resembles the hip-hop stuff that's out these days? Seriously (and I say this objectively) New Power Soul should not even be mentioned in the same breath as Purple Rain, 1999, or SOTT . . . unless you are talking about best and worst. New Power Soul is brilliant?!! Do you seriously think they are overrated? Overplayed, maybe. How can 3 of Prince's best albums be overrated? I'm with Toots - I am 35 and spent my teens watching Prince rise to fame (I became a fan with the 1999 album). It's actually hard to imagine being a new fan now, looking back. i dont see why your so against nps, its a real good album, i hate hip-hop by the way. come on is a very good song and is one of my favs, i like emancipation best though. that wipes the floor with pr. 36 songs, each and evry one is awsome. holy river v pr?? no contest. I never said I didn't like Emancipation. That's a very noble effort which will always be special because of what it stands for - artist freedom and newfound fatherhood (sad outcome). It also contains Prince's first released cover songs. NPS really doesn't stand for anything, except partying. To me it's very superficial, almost "fake" Prince. After the spiritual rebirth on Emancipation, for him to release NPS was a HUGE step backward. To me, 1999/PR/SOTT would be in Prince's top 10. Emancipation would fall into the top 20 . . . NPS would fall into the bottom 5. | |
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it wud be great for him to knock London clean out with some of them late nineties grooves---they`ll think wow where have these songs been hiding EVEN IN THE SUMMER TIME | |
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I just remember noting, on a thread, that I hoped NOT to hear "Purple Rain" nor "When Doves Cry" at the Feb 9th Vegas concert. I guess Prince read the thread because he played neither.
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chocolate1 said: Are U tired of hearing about "Purple Rain" every time some Prince reference is made? It is sooooo 20 years ago!
I know, I know- that is what he'll always be associated with, the same way people still call Madonna "The Material Girl", But LET IT GO PEOPLE! I was just at the gas station, and since it's a nice day, I had the windows down and the music high- "Xenophobia" from "ONA- Live" was jammin' Brotha attendant, came along boppin' his head, and asked me what I was listenin' to. I told him. His reply: "That's good, but 'When Doves Cry' was the $#!&. Purple Rain was his best stuff. He's been a punk since then." What would have pissed me off was the unnecessary diss, not the Purple Rain praise. I would have been muttering, under my breath , "yeah buddy, go pump some more gas, keep breathing those fumes, calling Prince a punk...cause I'm sure you know what you're talking about " No disrespect intended to any gas station workers out there. Yesterday, I wore my purple shirt with the symbol on it and got a couple "artist formerly known as" comments from my friend's husband. I've learned to brush those kind of remarks off. Prince did change his name to a symbol, and now we've gotta pay the price! Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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paisley16 said: chocolate1 said: Are U tired of hearing about "Purple Rain" every time some Prince reference is made? It is sooooo 20 years ago!
I know, I know- that is what he'll always be associated with, the same way people still call Madonna "The Material Girl", But LET IT GO PEOPLE! I was just at the gas station, and since it's a nice day, I had the windows down and the music high- "Xenophobia" from "ONA- Live" was jammin' Brotha attendant, came along boppin' his head, and asked me what I was listenin' to. I told him. His reply: "That's good, but 'When Doves Cry' was the $#!&. Purple Rain was his best stuff. He's been a punk since then." What would have pissed me off was the unnecessary diss, not the Purple Rain praise. I would have been muttering, under my breath , "yeah buddy, go pump some more gas, keep breathing those fumes, calling Prince a punk...cause I'm sure you know what you're talking about " No disrespect intended to any gas station workers out there. Yesterday, I wore my purple shirt with the symbol on it and got a couple "artist formerly known as" comments from my friend's husband. I've learned to brush those kind of remarks off. Prince did change his name to a symbol, and now we've gotta pay the price! THANK U, G!! SOMEone caught the punk part! That was the original reason for the thread. I never said I didn't like the song. I just said I'm tired of the tired jokes about it every time Prince is mentioned especially when people SING "Purple Rain, Purple Rain..."! "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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chocolate1 said: THANK U, G!! SOMEone caught the punk part! That was the original reason for the thread. I never said I didn't like the song. I just said I'm tired of the tired jokes about it every time Prince is mentioned especially when people SING "Purple Rain, Purple Rain..."! Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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RumAndRaisin said: thats your opinion, i rather like daisy chain, its funky. whilst pr is overated, over performed and is no where near hes best. besides, its boring. and the pr album isnt brilliant, i prefere 90's stuff
Just to clarify... you are saying you prefer his 90s stuff to Parade, Dirty Mind, Black Album, SOTT, and ATWIAD? To be honest I struggle to think of anything in the 90s tha compares to anything off those albums except maybe Gett Off and some tracks of the Truth. Emancipation was something I wish was kept in the captivity of the vault!! | |
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clarityman said: Just to clarify... you are saying you prefer his 90s stuff to Parade, Dirty Mind, Black Album, SOTT, and ATWIAD? Everyone has a right to their own favorites/opinion, but I have to say I find this to be a scary, scary thought- esp. in regard to SOTT or ATWIAD. and of course, that is just IMO. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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paisley16 said: clarityman said: Just to clarify... you are saying you prefer his 90s stuff to Parade, Dirty Mind, Black Album, SOTT, and ATWIAD? Everyone has a right to their own favorites/opinion, but I have to say I find this to be a scary, scary thought- esp. in regard to SOTT or ATWIAD. and of course, that is just IMO. of you are right I agree everyone has a right to their taste - I was only asking for clarification as I couldnt quite believe my eyes!! | |
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I don't mind it at all since (IMO) Purple Rain is still the greatest and most successful album he's ever made. I look back at that era with great fondness, and if someone else brings that up then maybe they saw that era the same way too. It was a great time to appreciate Prince then especially when he was at the top of his game musically, stylistically, etc. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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