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Reply #90 posted 06/09/07 2:10pm

ZFunc

Maia7 said:

Thank U DigMeNow 4 your post.
Eye enjoyed reading it and found it very Informative and Appealing biggrin
Eye will view the link U posted as well wink


i also appreciated this post and found it most enlightening.
prince has also been intrigued by the number seven. 3121, when
added up, also = seven

he's born on the seventh and even wrote a song called "seven"
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Reply #91 posted 06/11/07 11:34am

virginie74

Yeah, thank u. Now why is it written on his back ?
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Reply #92 posted 06/12/07 2:51am

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Reply #93 posted 06/12/07 3:33am

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Reply #94 posted 06/12/07 7:00am

mrsquirrel

Yod is a divine point of energy? Interesting... i found one of those after three days of excessive drinking and thought i was having a psychotic episode.

Luckily I realised it was merely the will of the universe channeling through the smallest particulate point in the centre of my brain, took another day off work and slept it off. Got a formal written warning from work and had to admit that i was a sodding part-time alcoholic.

No wonder you ain't allowed to say his name. Jeez.

Now:- Sunspots. Good Thing or Bad Thing?
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Reply #95 posted 06/12/07 11:10am

virginie74

DigMeNow said:[quote]

virginie74 said:

Yeah, thank u. Now why is it written on his back ?


Now that's a very interesting question and there could be a lot of meanings as to why it is written on his back. The first reason is difficult to explain so I am including a link so that you may understand it better.

1.) Since Jehovah is a distorted pronunciation of HIS name, we are going back to the Hebrew name and spelling with the 1's (Yod-Vav).

http://www.zionism-israel...ation.html

"Hebrew place names and personal names and some Hebrew words that appear in the King James and other versions of the bible were transliterated according to an often incorrect and arbitrary method, and sometimes several words were run together either in the Hebrew original or gratuitously in the translation.

These errors originated before the publication of the King James Version, but one of the rules adopted by the translators was to retain the "vulgar" or common pronunciations, just perpetuating distorted pronunciations such as Jehosaphat for Yehoshaphat.

Very often the biblical name of a place or person has a meaning in the context of the story being told, as names of persons were often assumed names or nicknames. Sometimes the original is unintelligible from the English transcription, which came by way of Latin and Greek.

The following will give some idea of the distortions and how to restore the original.

Letter J - Hebrew has no letter "J." In all names having a "J" in them, the J should be pronounced as "Y" or i at the beginning of the syllable. For example:

Adonijah should be Adoneeyah (meaning, "My lord is God")

Jedediah should be Yedidiah (meaning, "Friend of God")

Jeremiah is Yermiyahu in Hebrew.

Joel is YoEl in Hebrew (meaning "Jehovah is God")"


I don't see how it is related to my question but I found it intresting. I'm lucky enough to know hevbrew and to "hear/know" the real pronouciation... Let's say the opening of for you is actually very close to "the name" IMO.

And to answer the post below I recently remember I was "talking" to this sun-spots when I was a child and I think they are "alive".

And yes Youd is the symbol of the divine inspiration, I have ideas about almost all letters of the hebrew alphabet and to me it's beautiful, but would be very long to post it now.



[quote]
2.)The Hebrew title for the book of Psalms is called Tehillim, meaning “songs of praise," meaning turning back to God through repentance.

"Almost everyone,whether religious or not, has heard Psalm 23, because it is quoted so frequently. Many other psalms are also familiar because they are quoted in music,literature, or in the words of the worship service."

"The theme of Psalm 23 is that Jehovah/God is seen as a caring shepherd and a dependable guide. We must follow Jehovah/God and obey his commands. He is our only hope for eternal life and security."

I like this idea too even if I don't believe much in the heaven "reward". I like the idea of 3121 written on the back as a protection, but repentance from God how knows every kind of soul is too me a form of sm. giggle

I have another version coming from the symbolism of the body, actually the back is "the significant other". In a way, it could mean that Prince is linked to God
first of all.


Let's say 1 is God, 3 is the woman, 2 is the man, just like in Yod hey vav hey.



3121 has to be written backwards to be correct. To let the energy flow.
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Reply #96 posted 06/12/07 11:53am

m3taverse

3121 said:

Riverpoet31 said:

sigh... it wasnt his houseadress... he did put the number on the house, but the house itselve had another adress.


Wrong. It was the number of the appartment he rented in LA before moving into the that basketball players house. He took the number with him, as he was holding partys at the appartment too. This has been confirmed in an interview with the twinz.


You are wrong. Prince did in fact pretend this was the address of his house in LA, but the lawsuit with the guy Prince rented the place from revealed that the address was not even close to 3121. Prince just stuck that number on the house, not the other way around.
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #97 posted 06/12/07 11:54am

m3taverse

wish4 said:

3121:
1. It was his house number in LA at one point
2. It doesn't refer to a particular Bible passage, but it's certainly Biblical.


You're wrong about the housenumber. Prince stuck the number on the house, not the other way around. There was *never* an actual place with the 3121 address.
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #98 posted 06/12/07 12:01pm

m3taverse

BorisFishpaw said:

Yes, it was Prince's actual house number in LA.


except that it wasn't
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #99 posted 06/12/07 12:21pm

BorisFishpaw

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m3taverse said:

BorisFishpaw said:

Yes, it was Prince's actual house number in LA.


except that it wasn't


Actually it was.

You're thinking of the house he had up in Beverly Hills where all the big
celeb parties were and where the photos for the album sleeve were taken.
Before he rented that house, he had another place in LA, which WAS
actually number 3121.
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Reply #100 posted 06/12/07 12:25pm

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isn't hebrew written Right to Left vs Left to Right like English?


wouldn't that mean that 3121 would look more HWHJ
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Reply #101 posted 06/12/07 12:33pm

m3taverse

BorisFishpaw said:

m3taverse said:



except that it wasn't


Actually it was.

You're thinking of the house he had up in Beverly Hills where all the big
celeb parties were and where the photos for the album sleeve were taken.
Before he rented that house, he had another place in LA, which WAS
actually number 3121.


Oh was it really? I just don't recollect then, and retract earlier statements on this topic.
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #102 posted 06/12/07 12:54pm

virginie74

ehuffnsd said:

isn't hebrew written Right to Left vs Left to Right like English?


wouldn't that mean that 3121 would look more HWHJ


YHWH = 3121 <--- starting from here

It's only a thought
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Reply #103 posted 06/12/07 1:04pm

RUHip2TheJive

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DigMeNow said:

...
5.) Don't turn your back on Jehovah/God.

...


That's good cool
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Reply #104 posted 06/12/07 1:16pm

pennylover

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DigMeNow said:

purpleparty3000 said:

Are you the person behind the Bible code?


No but in my spare time I am the wizard in the Land of Oz. falloff

I totally enjoyed reading your descriptive thread. I found it 2 be very interesting and informative, and most importantly it makes sense 2 me.
Thank u 4 sharing. r u really a wizard in the Land of Oz? lol
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Reply #105 posted 06/12/07 11:46pm

BorisFishpaw

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m3taverse said:

BorisFishpaw said:



Actually it was.

You're thinking of the house he had up in Beverly Hills where all the big
celeb parties were and where the photos for the album sleeve were taken.
Before he rented that house, he had another place in LA, which WAS
actually number 3121.


Oh was it really? I just don't recollect then, and retract earlier statements on this topic.


No problem, not a lot of people seem to be aware that there was an original
3121 house. And you're quite right about the big Beverly Hills house, despite
having "3121" written over the entrance the real house number wasn't 3121.
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Reply #106 posted 06/13/07 12:42am

Scandalous69

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DigMeNow said:

wasitgood4u said:

DigMeNow - your post makes no sense. Where is the connection between Yod-Hay-Vav-Hay
and 3121
????

Wishful thinking?...


No, not wishful thinking. Maybe I should have added a bit more.

Jehovah is the same name as YHVH or Yahweh.

A vocalization. favored by most theologians, of the tetragammaton -- the name of God ("JHWH") found throughout the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament). An alternate pronounciation is Jehovah.
www.religioustolerance.org/gl_xyz.htm

from the Hebrew verb "hayah" (to be), "the one who causes to be." The God of Israel, whose name was revealed to Moses (Exodus 3.14).
staff.jccc.net/thoare/gl%20q%20to%20z.htm

Yahweh is the Hebrew God worshiped exclusively when the Hebrews became monotheists, c. 1000 BCE. This is the God in the Old Testament. The Hebrews believe that if they place their trust in Yehweh, then they will be provided for. definition: Chapter 4.
www.2ad.com/~john/history/unit1_defs/

Secret name of God. The Tetragrammaton or 4-Letter-Word: YHVH. Original pronunciation is unknown.
www.sakara.net/Glossary.html

(p. 51) - God of the Hebrews, believed to be the creator and sustainer of the world and all within it; demanded that the Hebrews, his chosen people, observe high moral and ethical standards. Monotheism represented by belief in Yahweh had a deep influence on the development of Christianity and Islam.
www.mhhe.com/socscience/h...ossary.htm

a name for the God of the Old Testament as transliterated from the Hebrew consonants YHVH
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

The Tetragrammaton (Greek: τετραγράμματον word with four letters) is the usual reference to the Hebrew name for God, which is spelled (in Hebrew); י (yod) ה (heh) ו (vav) ה (heh) or יהוה (YHWH), it is the distinctive personal name of the God of Israel.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

Here are a few more sites to help explain it.

http://www.answers.com/topic/yahweh

http://www.answers.com/to...agrammaton

Last but not least:

http://www.eliyah.com/namedef.html

Now if you want to read about Shem,cutting down down Nimrod(The Story of Nimrod), take a look at this site:

http://www.geocities.com/...imrod.html

More on Shem:

http://www.nisbett.com/pe...p-shem.htm


Do you understand now, or have I completely confused you?
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[Edited 6/1/07 18:18pm]



I really dig your interpretation.
And maybe 3121 ALSO used to be his house number.
For all we know, he could have thought of combining the 2, being as cheeky as he is.
I really do think this makes sense, and PUUUUUHLEASE people, we all know Prince has a very Deep thinking side to him.
Just use some of his lyrics as a reference, if you think what he sings is simply what he means, YOU ARE WRONG.

But that's only my humble opinion. lol
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Reply #107 posted 06/13/07 12:54am

DigMeNow

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Reply #108 posted 06/13/07 1:42am

SDNafka

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IAintTheOne said:

blah blah. fuckin blah blah....


Hmmmmm....Interesting viewpoint...thought provoking.
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Reply #109 posted 06/13/07 12:57pm

CAMERANEWS

actually it looks more like 312 and then a comma?????
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Reply #110 posted 06/13/07 1:58pm

virginie74

CAMERANEWS said:

actually it looks more like 312 and then a comma?????



a comma up side down yes

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Reply #111 posted 06/14/07 12:28am

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I slightly resent DigMeNow not giving me credit or thanks for making the point that led to the most convincing aspect of her argument:
that Hebrew is read from right to left and therefore the 1's represent the yod and the vav respectively which they strongly resemble.

I'm posting this mainly as a response to the last few posters who have brought this up again and may have got confused along the way.
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #112 posted 06/14/07 2:38am

DigMeNow

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Reply #113 posted 06/14/07 3:35am

wasitgood4u

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DigMeNow said:

wasitgood4u said:

I slightly resent DigMeNow not giving me credit or thanks for making the point that led to the most convincing aspect of her argument:
that Hebrew is read from right to left and therefore the 1's represent the yod and the vav respectively which they strongly resemble.

I'm posting this mainly as a response to the last few posters who have brought this up again and may have got confused along the way.




This thread has helped people understand some things and people such as yourself have helped along the way. Why you feel the need to be "credited" speaks more than why you should want to help people to understand. How immature that you feel as though you should be slightly credited,people have read each and every one of these comments I am sure. Isn't that enough? I credited Hip because she and I spoke privately and since I posted her idea,therefore I needed to credit her. I don't steal other people's ideas. I really assumed people read your previous comments. Do you people take pleasure in humiliating and making one bawl


eek Also I NEVER stated my gender on this thread,and I also have not been in contact with you outside of this thread. You are correct though, I am female. I feel played for some reason.
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Please don't get overly worked up! I wrote the word "slightly" honestly. I had a sense that you had simply presented my ideas as tho they were your own, but perhaps I was being over-sensitive and even if it did appear that way, I'm sure it was unintentional on your part.
Anyway I didn't write the previous post to gripe, but merely to clear up some confusion that was apparent in some of the last few posts.
I have a sense that you harbour some hostility towards me - I have no idea why. I don't have a clue what you mean about being "played," BTW. I have no idea why I assumed that you were female - I had no negative intentions.
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #114 posted 06/14/07 4:49pm

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Reply #115 posted 06/14/07 5:23pm

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what about the fact Hebrew is written in reverse of English. so to someone who can ready Hebrew it would be written backwards and not make sense.
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Reply #116 posted 06/14/07 6:40pm

515073

The first time I heard that was the title,I thought"great,he's still fixated with the number 7",because it is not hard to see that's what the numbers add up to. neutral
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Reply #117 posted 06/14/07 8:36pm

Jules711

Riverpoet31 said:

Lol.. there is this discussion again. To keep it simple:

Fact 1: it wasnt the adressnumber of his house in LA
Fact 2: it refers to a certain chapter from the bible: which one? i dont know, i dont read that crappy book, ask Prince.

Thread closed.

niiiiice confused
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Reply #118 posted 06/15/07 2:04am

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Hey dig me now, excellent thread. Perhaps the best that I've seen on here. Wasn't hip to this. I, by instinct, knew that 3121 meant something. But didn't know what that was. Very similar to the album 1999. Although his meaning in that is the exact opposite to God. On that album cover, there are tons of hidden messages. Him writing "and the revolution" backwards tells you that you might as well turn the album cover upside down. He actually says the name of the song and the name of the album in the song 1999.
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Reply #119 posted 06/15/07 3:15am

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