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Reply #60 posted 06/05/07 12:08pm

DigMeNow

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Reply #61 posted 06/05/07 12:28pm

RUHip2TheJive

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I like your idea. It makes sense. I'm going to look at it later when I have more time. Thanks smile
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Reply #62 posted 06/05/07 1:29pm

Snap

thumbs up! good thread
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Reply #63 posted 06/05/07 1:43pm

RodeoSchro

wasitgood4u said:

As I pointed out, Hebrew's written from right to left, therefore:

1=Y (which is visually clear, using the jacket font)
2=H (only makes sense by cutting up the number, otherwise ?)
1=W (again, clear on the jacket font)
3=H (again, only by cut-and-twist)

But, as I said, such a derivation seems too far-fetched: it doesn't explain why he chose those numbers to begin with, or their significance when written in other fonts.


Holy crap, that is my ATM code! Seriously.
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Reply #64 posted 06/05/07 1:56pm

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confused
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Reply #65 posted 06/05/07 6:42pm

christos7

Amazing what happens when people have 2 much time on their hands.
If what u say is true, and I really have no desire 2 look in2 it, it just goes 2 show how bogged down Prince's mind has become thru all of this 'study', and how it's throttled his creative genius.
Shame really.
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Reply #66 posted 06/05/07 7:36pm

azifukared

DigMeNow said:

Now I FINALLY understand!!!!

"It is customary to write the Hebrew number 15 at Tet-Vav,rather than Yod-Hey,which is the divine Name YAH. Similarly, 16 is written at Tet-Zayin rather than as Yod-Vav, which resembels a divine name (e.g., YOchanan)."

THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THE NUMBER 1's APPEAR ON THE 3121 CD COVER!!!!

Prince is using HALAKHAH(a circumolation of the names) which states it is only forbidden to erase a divine Name that is written in a "normal" fashion (i.e., in the standard Hebrew spelling (or transliteration ) of the Name), a common practice to avoid writing the Names of God is to substitute letters or syllables within the Name(thats why Prince is using 3 and 2)!

Oh wow, Prince if you have read this thread I'm sorry I didn't see it in the beginning. It's taken me quite a while to understand it but now I REALLY understand. Try NOT to bust a gut while laughing at everything I've written the last few days. lol

YHVH is the personable name of God of Isreal but is unutterable.

Y-Yod
H-Hey
V-Vav
H-Hey


http://www.hebrew4christi...iting.html
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nice!...but did u listen 2 the rest of the words 2 the song?
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Reply #67 posted 06/05/07 9:37pm

DigMeNow

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Reply #68 posted 06/05/07 10:26pm

vanessabfly

This thread is making me laugh. Some of the responses are hilarious. I have to say, part of Prince's appeal to me is his mysterious demeanor. When I was younger and had time, I would analyze his album covers-especially ATWIAD. But now, I just don't have it in me, nor the time. But more power to those who do. I enjoy that you enjoy what you are doing. And I understand the responses of those who think it's all silly.
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Reply #69 posted 06/06/07 1:49am

wasitgood4u

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vanessabfly said:

This thread is making me laugh. Some of the responses are hilarious. I have to say, part of Prince's appeal to me is his mysterious demeanor. When I was younger and had time, I would analyze his album covers-especially ATWIAD. But now, I just don't have it in me, nor the time. But more power to those who do. I enjoy that you enjoy what you are doing. And I understand the responses of those who think it's all silly.


nod
I'm answering "seriously" for the fun of it, but not taking it too much ot heart.

As fro Digmenow's theory - so-so...:

Yod-Vav is NOT a common form of the abbreviation of God's name (as opposed to Yod-Hay). It makes the theory a little far-fetched but plausible. The explanation for the 2 and the 3 is still a mess.
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #70 posted 06/06/07 2:40am

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Reply #71 posted 06/06/07 2:50am

DigMeNow

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Reply #72 posted 06/06/07 2:57am

DigMeNow

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Reply #73 posted 06/06/07 7:37am

vivid

DigMeNow said:

3121 said:

...i think it was the number of an appartment he used to have



I've heard that as well but I don't think that's what drove him to base all of his new revelation off of, an apartment/house address.


Although the album does contain pix of the house (in LA) rather than that Jehovah bloke, and the song describes entering the house and putting on Japanese, rather than middle-eastern turn of the last millenium, robes. Any lyrics in the song that referenfe J?
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Reply #74 posted 06/06/07 7:50am

girl66

OMG why doesn't somebody just ask him wink
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Reply #75 posted 06/06/07 9:09am

ElCapitan

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So it's Hebrew 1337 speak? I guess that's as good a theory as any.
"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #76 posted 06/06/07 9:14am

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...hunh?
"Plaid shorts are completely over."
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Reply #77 posted 06/06/07 9:37am

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When u can't find the reason for the smoke, there's probably water n the fire...when u understand everything n every book...CONGRATULATIONS...ur n the New Power Generation..." cool I think Prince didnt have just one meaning for 3121...ok, so it was his apartment number but as a Prince fan, we should all expect for something to be on the other side of the pillow. wink
peace & wildsign
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Reply #78 posted 06/06/07 12:35pm

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it ain't ova.... it ain't ova....
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #79 posted 06/07/07 3:38pm

DigMeNow

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Reply #80 posted 06/07/07 5:32pm

RUHip2TheJive

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ElCapitan said:

So it's Hebrew 1337 speak? I guess that's as good a theory as any.


LOL. 1337 giggle

DigMeNow said:

eek I finally understand why he changed his name in 1993 to the symbol and why it's unpronouncable. I see the yod(the arm) reaching and then pointing upward toward heaven incorporated into the symbol.



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I know I'm going to get blasted again. lol
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I'm not going to blast you on this one, but I'm not gonna agree with it. And it's mostly because I don't get what you're talking about on this one.
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Reply #81 posted 06/07/07 6:53pm

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Reply #82 posted 06/07/07 7:32pm

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RUHip2TheJive said:

ElCapitan said:

So it's Hebrew 1337 speak? I guess that's as good a theory as any.


LOL. 1337 giggle

DigMeNow said:

eek I finally understand why he changed his name in 1993 to the symbol and why it's unpronouncable. I see the yod(the arm) reaching and then pointing upward toward heaven incorporated into the symbol.



=



I know I'm going to get blasted again. lol
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I'm not going to blast you on this one, but I'm not gonna agree with it. And it's mostly because I don't get what you're talking about on this one.



THIS one? You have to go over hill and dale to follow the logic of any of it.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #83 posted 06/07/07 9:02pm

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Reply #84 posted 06/07/07 11:36pm

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3121 refers to the year when the dawn comes!! smile
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #85 posted 06/08/07 12:53am

Snap

note: 3121 pieced together & the difference in the 1s

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Reply #86 posted 06/09/07 4:42am

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I think people are trying to read to much specific meaning into '3121',
when in reality the meaning is more subtle and multi-layered.

Yes, it was Prince's actual house number in LA.
Yes, the numbers add up to 7
Yes, the 1's are deliberately drawn that way to highlight a connection to God

Just like the prince symbol, or any complex word when you look it up in a
dictionary. It's a descriptive term, which has several interconnected meanings
all of which are true, rather than one specific yes/no answer.
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Reply #87 posted 06/09/07 1:08pm

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BorisFishpaw said:

I think people are trying to read to much specific meaning into '3121',
when in reality the meaning is more subtle and multi-layered.

Yes, it was Prince's actual house number in LA.
Yes, the numbers add up to 7
Yes, the 1's are deliberately drawn that way to highlight a connection to God

Just like the prince symbol, or any complex word when you look it up in a
dictionary. It's a descriptive term, which has several interconnected meanings
all of which are true, rather than one specific yes/no answer.


nod
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #88 posted 06/09/07 2:00pm

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wasitgood4u said:

Okay - here's how you do it:

If you cut off the bottom of the two and turn it 90 degrees, moved slightly to the left, you've got a "hay".

If you cut the three into two pieces as it appears, turn the curved one 90 degrees to the left, move it up and move the top bit down, you've got something that looks like another "hay".

This way's good, because it explains why the numbers look like they're made of separate pieces stuck together and why the last "one" is smaller than the first.

Wow, I think you've almost convinced me!

(But not quite - it's a fun game, but how come the first time we saw 3121 it was in that square script which can't be manipulated this way?)

I'm so confused I feel like I'm in Sunday School confuse
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Reply #89 posted 06/09/07 2:05pm

Illustrator

wasitgood4u said:

Okay - here's how you do it:

If you cut off the bottom of the two and turn it 90 degrees, moved slightly to the left, you've got a "hay".

If you cut the three into two pieces as it appears, turn the curved one 90 degrees to the left, move it up and move the top bit down, you've got something that looks like another "hay".

This way's good, because it explains why the numbers look like they're made of separate pieces stuck together and why the last "one" is smaller than the first.


Ha-ayy...! dancing jig
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