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Thread started 09/17/02 9:26pm

Natasha

Do you think Prince is too far into the Religious aspect to ever get Wild and Free again alla Old time Prince?

Do you think that Prince is just Too concerned about the JWs and Larry and his Image as a Goody,Goody to absolutely get Wild and Free again? Do you think he will Abandon this and go onto Scientology like Tom Cruise and Kirsty Ally and just live a un-stressed life of Wild Abandon and Debauchery once more within a controlled environment or are those days Over for him?
[This message was edited Tue Sep 17 22:31:51 PDT 2002 by Natasha]
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Reply #1 posted 09/17/02 9:32pm

CherrieMoonKis
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sigh Scientology would be better than JW 4 him 2 me.
I just want my old Prince back...PRONTO...but only if he's happy. cry I'll suffer...rolleyes
peace & wildsign
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Reply #2 posted 09/17/02 9:33pm

TailGate

Well,Nat! IMHO,,,this is his personal life. He is a musical genious who runs a music club and this it all that we should be concerned about. We do not buy his personal life as we would not sell ours...We buy his music and some pay a membership and as long as he keeps his word and responsibilitis and his personal life does not conflict it should be NONE of our busines.BUT ONLY MHO biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 09/17/02 9:37pm

mistermaxxx

Natasha said:

Do you think that Prince is just Too concerned about the JWs and Larry and his Image as a Goody,Goody to absolutely get Wild and Free again? Do you think he will Abandon this and go one to Scientology liked Tom Cruise and Kirsty Ally and just live a un-stressed life of Wild Abandon and Debauchery once more within a controlled environment or are those days Over for him?
Yep.as much as I'd like to See the Older Vibe of Prince in His Work&also get that 80-88 Vibe all over again those days are long gone.Prince is in a whole different vein&element now.
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Reply #4 posted 09/17/02 10:44pm

grandebelle

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Natasha said:

Do you think that Prince is just Too concerned about the JWs and Larry and his Image as a Goody,Goody to absolutely get Wild and Free again? Do you think he will Abandon this and go onto Scientology like Tom Cruise and Kirsty Ally and just live a un-stressed life of Wild Abandon and Debauchery once more within a controlled environment or are those days Over for him?
[This message was edited Tue Sep 17 22:31:51 PDT 2002 by Natasha]

=== Never know what a gemini will do. (i know) plus, if he HASNT already had his mid life crisis no telling what he'll do then... men get freaky at THAT AGE, where they think they better grab the brass ring one more time before they cant see it at all!...however our prince doesnt know how old he is! i believe it's better that way myself... it really WORKS! if he has gone thru the MLC already, he'll probobly stay pretty much as is, a settled down, married man. as far as scientology goes? i'm glad he didnt choose that!
May the BELLS ring 4 U even when ur not in love. hug kisses
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Reply #5 posted 09/17/02 10:53pm

Jasziah

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What exactly are you expecting (or want) from Prince? I think he's grown a lot as a serious musician in the last couple years (while also churning out some "wild" tunes). May it continue. I think Prince will always be able to work the "religious aspect" into whatever funky music he makes -- just as he's always done.
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Reply #6 posted 09/17/02 11:22pm

tackam

Are YOU going to ever be the same person you were 10 years ago? Probably not.

Doves,
Mel!ssa
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Reply #7 posted 09/17/02 11:24pm

tackam

I think it would be neet if he would write music from a belief system that doesnt condemn all other beliefs the way his does. . .time will tell. . .

Doves,
Mel!ssa
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Reply #8 posted 09/17/02 11:48pm

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Not to necessarily defend Prince's views, but I don't see someone's belief that they have the One Truth as "condemning" to other beliefs. It's almost like saying if you believe 2+2=4 then you're condemning all other numbers but 4. The sad thing is, everyone's been made afraid to believe in anything anymore since it's seen as being "judgmental" (with all of its bad connotations), and now no one knows how to make a stand on any issue or concern. Entropy.
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Reply #9 posted 09/18/02 2:01am

Savannah

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The weaker he gets.. the more he huddles around the book all day long like a fool 4 inner strength. Looking for light in his darkness. Someday he'll play in the sunshine again and realize how he's been fucking up the lyrics of some classic songs in the past few years like mumbley joe ! It usually takes a couple of years after a man loses various family members.

We all have our rainy days sometimes.
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Reply #10 posted 09/18/02 4:42am

dobiespoiled

What is wrong with Prince being a Jehovah's Witnesses? If he were Catholic or any other religion, that would be fine. But now that he is trying to be a better person, you all cant stand it.

If you truely love him like you say that you do, you should except him no matter what religion he is.

Most of you dont even have a clue about the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, maybe you should find out.
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Reply #11 posted 09/18/02 7:40am

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just2bnasty

if i wanted reruns, i'd watch the WB lol
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Reply #12 posted 09/18/02 7:44am

PlastikLuvAffa
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zzz
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Reply #13 posted 09/18/02 8:25am

Tom

The one thing I didn't care for at the ONA show (which was otherwise amazing) was the preaching, both at the rehersal and during the concert.

The incidents at the shows where he was basically telling people they're going to hell for having tattoos and handing them a bible was out of hand. If the flip side occured and someone spoke out at one of his rehersals telling him he's a kook for becoming a Jehovahs Witness, you know he wouldnt be thrilled, and admittance to rehersals would probabbly stop.

Music can be incredibly spiritual without alienating people of various other religions different from his own. His earlier output proves that. If he wants to continue on the path he's going with his music, he's going to continue to loose more listeners with his remarks. Thats his choice. But its inevitable that fans will begin questioning why, and wish it didnt happen, and talk about it on here.

I felt more of a connection in the past with Prince's lyrics regardless of the fact I was raised Catholic, and he was whatever religion he had at the time. Nowdays I don't.
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Reply #14 posted 09/18/02 8:40am

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Tom said:

The one thing I didn't care for at the ONA show (which was otherwise amazing) was the preaching, both at the rehersal and during the concert.

The incidents at the shows where he was basically telling people they're going to hell for having tattoos and handing them a bible was out of hand. If the flip side occured and someone spoke out at one of his rehersals telling him he's a kook for becoming a Jehovahs Witness, you know he wouldnt be thrilled, and admittance to rehersals would probabbly stop.

Music can be incredibly spiritual without alienating people of various other religions different from his own. His earlier output proves that. If he wants to continue on the path he's going with his music, he's going to continue to loose more listeners with his remarks. Thats his choice. But its inevitable that fans will begin questioning why, and wish it didnt happen, and talk about it on here.

I felt more of a connection in the past with Prince's lyrics regardless of the fact I was raised Catholic, and he was whatever religion he had at the time. Nowdays I don't.



i agree, Tom
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Reply #15 posted 09/18/02 8:49am

Saxjedi

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dobiespoiled said:


Most of you dont even have a clue about the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, maybe you should find out.


GOD!! DAMN!!! IT!!!

I thought we'd seen the last of this sort of thing! Oh wait, no, that's just because I decided not to read the forums anymore. I'd better get that policy back in action!
I know u people worthless scum give no heart but wrath of insults a brain-driven wave of destruction your bite is worse than your vocabulary. Shame on you all of you. Go feed your pigs coward.
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Reply #16 posted 09/18/02 9:06am

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Well, I hope he gets his groove back because I have been an outcast for at least two years now. Sold the collection, have not bought any good music, have not seen any good videos and have only purchased the occasional bootleg of his live performances. He applied religious overtones in all of my favorite records/cds, but he never applied an outright agenda like he does today. I had no idea that me, along with so many others would be lost and forced to listen to the music we are hearing right now. I will always admire him as an artist and a huge talent. I am also glad that all the newbies have jumped aboard to support him in this time of sadness. The new fans did not live through the funk years and are very happy with his new found progression. Thank God for boots, outtakes and the Prince of Pre-2000. I am so happy that I have Sign o the times, lovesexy, dirty mind, Emancipation, Black album, Gold, Controversy and 1999 to shuffle into my home and car player. I was part of the New Breed so I bring no offense to anyone who is into the New-School Religious Agenda (NSRA).
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Reply #17 posted 09/18/02 9:47am

nightwing

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Reply #18 posted 09/18/02 10:22am

CherrieMoonKis
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Saxjedi said:

dobiespoiled said:


Most of you dont even have a clue about the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, maybe you should find out.


GOD!! DAMN!!! IT!!!

I thought we'd seen the last of this sort of thing! Oh wait, no, that's just because I decided not to read the forums anymore. I'd better get that policy back in action!


This is what the hell IM saying...rolleyes
Gimme a damn break.
peace & wildsign
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Reply #19 posted 09/18/02 2:10pm

Mr7

Tom said:

The one thing I didn't care for at the ONA show (which was otherwise amazing) was the preaching, both at the rehersal and during the concert.

The incidents at the shows where he was basically telling people they're going to hell for having tattoos and handing them a bible was out of hand. If the flip side occured and someone spoke out at one of his rehersals telling him he's a kook for becoming a Jehovahs Witness, you know he wouldnt be thrilled, and admittance to rehersals would probabbly stop.

Music can be incredibly spiritual without alienating people of various other religions different from his own. His earlier output proves that. If he wants to continue on the path he's going with his music, he's going to continue to loose more listeners with his remarks. Thats his choice. But its inevitable that fans will begin questioning why, and wish it didnt happen, and talk about it on here.

I felt more of a connection in the past with Prince's lyrics regardless of the fact I was raised Catholic, and he was whatever religion he had at the time. Nowdays I don't.



Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in 'Hell' Tom, so that information must be at least partially incorrect.
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Reply #20 posted 09/18/02 2:18pm

Lilith

Most of you dont even have a clue about the teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses, maybe you should find out.[/quote]



I have 'em 2 well...I was in2 J.W. until i was born and when i got legal i left 'em...In Italy the police is controling 'em 4 their psychological violence and becuz some J.W suicided...They arent so good, believe me infact when i told 2 my satanist brothas what i passed with 'em they got scared...

Prince is free 2 do what he wants ...
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Reply #21 posted 09/18/02 2:58pm

Tom

Mr7 said:

Tom said:

The one thing I didn't care for at the ONA show (which was otherwise amazing) was the preaching, both at the rehersal and during the concert.

The incidents at the shows where he was basically telling people they're going to hell for having tattoos and handing them a bible was out of hand. If the flip side occured and someone spoke out at one of his rehersals telling him he's a kook for becoming a Jehovahs Witness, you know he wouldnt be thrilled, and admittance to rehersals would probabbly stop.

Music can be incredibly spiritual without alienating people of various other religions different from his own. His earlier output proves that. If he wants to continue on the path he's going with his music, he's going to continue to loose more listeners with his remarks. Thats his choice. But its inevitable that fans will begin questioning why, and wish it didnt happen, and talk about it on here.

I felt more of a connection in the past with Prince's lyrics regardless of the fact I was raised Catholic, and he was whatever religion he had at the time. Nowdays I don't.



Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in 'Hell' Tom, so that information must be at least partially incorrect.


He refered to writings in the bible about it. He didnt explicitly say hell. But what other consequence is there?
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Reply #22 posted 09/18/02 3:40pm

JAMIESTARR

Why so everyone can bitch about him being a dirty old man when he is 50?
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Reply #23 posted 09/18/02 4:50pm

origmnd

I think Prince should see his "erotic"
creative side as an art form, NOT as a display or the personification of an unholy lifestyle.
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Reply #24 posted 09/18/02 5:04pm

thebumpsquad

I wish Larry would fuck off-my opinion!
If I'm going to hell evil then o(+> is coming with me

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Reply #25 posted 09/18/02 5:07pm

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I have still yet to see any "real proof" that he has become a JW. Obviously we all still like him, otheriwse we wouldn't be spending our free time talking about him. Even if he has become a JW it had no bearing when I saw him perform him "ONA-Tour", he was great, so I didn't get to him him cuss, big deal. He's moved on musically and spirtually and I think it's great. And while being a JW is not my choice of religion, I have to respect those that are and go about my own biz. All of this is IMHO smile Peace yall.
"May U live 2 C the Dawn"
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Reply #26 posted 09/18/02 5:54pm

Tom

slvrhrt7 said:

I have still yet to see any "real proof" that he has become a JW. Obviously we all still like him, otheriwse we wouldn't be spending our free time talking about him. Even if he has become a JW it had no bearing when I saw him perform him "ONA-Tour", he was great, so I didn't get to him him cuss, big deal. He's moved on musically and spirtually and I think it's great. And while being a JW is not my choice of religion, I have to respect those that are and go about my own biz. All of this is IMHO smile Peace yall.


Prince can record great songs with or without swearing, such as Power Fantastic, Nothing Compares To You, etc... Its the re-writing of his previous work that seems really tacky and awkward to me.

His lyrics and some of the skits in his shows have become a bit heavy handed and judgemental, which makes people like myself feel like he's talking down to us for our own beliefs rather than respecting his fans individual faiths.

I'm in no place to tell Prince what religion he should follow, but the same holds true for him.
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Reply #27 posted 09/18/02 5:55pm

Tom

thebumpsquad said:

I wish Larry would fuck off-my opinion!
If I'm going to hell evil then o(+> is coming with me



LMAO!
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Reply #28 posted 09/18/02 6:00pm

GodsloveisTrue

Okay...I've had it up 2 here w/all this B.S.

!st off I'm new...well I've been around...I even have had the joy of being next 2 this man several times. I witnessed these sound checks I witnessed the digital garden...lol. U guys come on. The last time i checked he said he wasn't a baptized publisher...I think that was around the time the media caught wind of him being a JW"S ...and what is wrong with studying with time. They have very good studying materials by the way smile Anyway...4 as long as I've heard his music ...we have all xperienced his spiritual preachings as u call it. Okay he doesn't sing Darling Nikki...so what he sings My Medallion & Muse 2 the Pharoah...and if u didn't get enough sexuality out of that then listen when i lay my hands on u & breathe. Okay...I find it hard myself that he is a JW n the religion sense...I know he is a witness 2 God...he has been through 2 too much not 2. Larry & Tina ...u guys I also was blessed 2 meet them,,,beautiful ppl...They feel n love back n the day while Tina was breading Larrys hair. They caught my tears & didn't think nothing of it ...Thank U.
U guys give it up and if it would help ...mayb everyone should send n the same ?...R U...but then would it make a differnce. He's happy right? Right. I think we can atleast agree 2 this.

Me love u guys...

GodsluvisTrue
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Reply #29 posted 09/18/02 8:37pm

ronnie

Back in the day, Prince was always able to combine sex and spirituality/religion into records, and we loved it. Now he is more religion oriented and we still love him. We may not like some of the joints he is putting out but we still go out and buy them.

I can only hope and pray that this is all a phase that he is going through or perhaps a middle age crisis. It will all be over soon... He was able to appease the masses before, I'm sure he will be able to do so again.

Hell, what's a little swearing gonna do?
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