Have you heard her new album? It is really "southern protest songs", with a "dirty/gritty funk" instrumentation. Production is the opposite to polished, Ry Cooder on board.

Some really excellent, spine-tangling songs on it.

Anyone else here has heard it?

LisasBrush said:

they worked together on some Nikka Costa tracks...but they never saw the light of day.

sosgemini said:

Seriously.

and which religion is it that has the cute white boys in their white buttoned shirts and black ties who ride their bikes throughout neighborhoods preaching to folks?

The Morman cult.

The funny thing about them is that they are here in the Caribbean trying to recruit followers, but they don't allow black people to become preachers or hold any position of authority in their "church".

A few stones, pots, pans and machettes have been tossed in their direction when they go around the island.

Martinelli said:

Kind of a bizarre comment if you ask me. It's not like every person around Prince or working with him is a JW; nor have I ever heard it said JWs can only hang out with other JWs. Religion can sure put up barriers but sometimes the barriers are simply imagined.

dseann said:

I didn't know that and I know several people who are Mormon and REALLY cool and I always thought they were like Quakers, real open minded and tolerant of other races/cultures. But it's funny that you mention this because last week on Bill Mahr's show he did make a comment about how the Mormons didn't publically acknowledge black people as full human beings, or something to that effect, until 1963.

And Mike Huckabee wants to be president, he better sit down some where and get ready to explain all this BS to the public. And the deal with the magical underwear to me, personally.

SCNDLS said:

Magical underwear?

Known to some is the fact that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or Mormon Church) wear a special kind of underwear in connection with their religion. This is true of most faithful adult members of the Church. (Mormon children are generally dressed the same as any other children.) The special underwear is called a "garment" by Mormons, and it is directly related to Mormon temples.

Garments are a symbolic gesture of the promises that Mormons have made to God. The garment is always worn under other clothing, next to the skin. In fact, for most people who wear it, the garment takes the place of regular underwear. Mormons begin wearing it during their first visit to the temple, wherein they receive individual instruction on how the garment should be worn and cared for, and furthermore, they undergo a sacred ceremony called the temple endowment. Solely during this ritual, additional special clothing is put on; by contrast, the garment or special underwear is worn at all times, both day and night, from then on. It serves as a constant reminder of the covenants made during the temple endowment.

Devout Mormons further understand that in only a very few instances might the garment be removed, such as for swimming, using the bathroom, or being intimate in marriage . The reasons for keeping the garment on far outweigh the reasons for taking it off.

The garment or Mormon underwear consists of a top and bottom piece, and it is made from a variety of lightweight fabrics. There are some special colored garments that can be worn by members of the armed services, but for most Mormons, garments are always white. This constitutes an emblem of physical and spiritual purity. The garment is always worn under other clothing, next to the skin. In fact, for most people who wear it, the garment takes the place of regular underwear. As a matter of practicality, an ordinary supportive bra may still be worn by a Mormon woman, but it is placed over the garment rather than under.

Sunbathing is not an appropriate excuse, so most Caucasian Mormons endure the rather humorous condition of being eternally pale; yet they set aside their vanity—and the risk of skin cancer—for the sake of staying faithfully covered.

The reasons for Mormons to keep their garments on far outweigh the reasons for taking them off. Blessings of physical protection are one reason. Although Mormons avoid too openly sharing personally sacred experiences, there have still been numerous reports of, for instance, a person’s outer clothing being chewed up in a chainsaw accident while the garment and skin remained perfectly intact (WTF??? ) ; or a person suffering severe burns to the arms and legs in a fire, yet the bodily damage showed a distinct cutoff point right where the garment sleeves and legs began.

Such miracles are certainly not guaranteed to happen. A person’s faith and faithfulness can come into play, and a far greater factor is simply the will and wisdom of the Lord, our Heavenly Father. Mormons know that through all His actions, including giving and taking life, He seeks to touch our hearts and motivate us to turn to Him in ever increasing faith, love, obedience, and gratitude; those are just some of the attributes that will help us find happiness and true success in this mortal life and the life to come.

Another reason for consistently wearing Mormon underwear is spiritual protection. When a Mormon keeps covenants he or she has made at baptism and in a Mormon temple, including the very promise to wear the garment, added strength against temptation and spiritual confusion is granted. The person is more empowered to care for family, to read the scriptures and pray for deep insights, and to remain pure in a dangerous and dirty world. The person can receive a stark reminder of duty to God through the garment. Even if a Mormon has foolishly fallen so far into temptation, flirtation, and stimulation as to be on the verge of committing a tragic sin like adultery, hopefully the garment will provide a last-resort wakeup call that will cause the person to stop, get out of the situation, and earnestly, permanently repent of said foolishness. If the person does not stop, the removal of the garment serves as a strong symbol that the person is utterly betraying God and sacred promises made with Him.

metalorange said:

yeah,I was confused by that comment too.I didn't know that JWs could only hang around their "own kind".

SoulAlive said:

It's BS. I used to work with a girl who was a Witness and she went to the gym and lunch with another co-worker all the time who was not a Witness.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

That doesn't mean she was supposed to in the eyes of the church. They do not encourage extensive involvement with non-JWs but people will and do what they want when not in church and that applies to all religions.

cult.

imo, any organisation that promotes a 'them and us' attitude is wrong

sosgemini said:

Man I'm so with you on that!

purplecam said:

You guys are crackin' me up with the Mormon centerfolds!

Seriously, though, I know a bunch of ex-Mormon gay guys. They all seem pretty hesitant to totally turn their back on the church, but I will say this: They're some of the freakiest partyers I know.

Riverpoet31 said:

here is a case of NOT HEART READY

Sillyou, perhaps it's just someone that doesn't agree with you. People can have differing viewpoints or faiths and they are just as valid as yours - no need to go around painting them with plainly silly and negative statements in an attempt to dismiss them or make yourself feel better.

In another article http://www.mormonolympian...rwear.html



So in short, they believe that the magic, mystical drawers help them talk to God and provide a force field of protection from bodily harm and temptation. Yeah, it's going to be REALLY entertaining watching a potential presidential candidate convince voters that this ain't some crazy ass bullshit. He's entitled to believe whatever he wants, as are the rest of us, but come on now!
[Edited 5/18/07 10:05am]

dseann said:

i really hate this word.

sosgemini said:

Please don't mix this word up with c*#t.
Just kidding. Is what the Mormons believe in officially called a religion?

Anxiety said:

the question i posed ("which form of reaching out is wrong") was more of a general one addressing the tone of this thread...

dseann said:

Did you mean to say Cunt....