theerainbochild said:

The post of the year!

HE'S A FUCKIN GEMINI YA LUNATICS!!!

Lilith said:

Actually schizophrenia does not have a lot of personalities. One of the main symptoms of schizophrenia is delusions, not multiple personalities. What use to be considered Multiple Personality Disorder is now known as DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) and can be characterized by multiple personalities, but often may just be dissassociation from emotional states related to possible traumatic events in childhood.

Jatrig said:

There are several related bipolar disorders, including Bipolar I and II, but in order to meet criteria for bipolar, other criteria must be met such as meeting the criteria for a manic episode, criteria for a mixed episode, criteria for hypomanic episode, etc. I do not see Prince meeting the requirements for any of the above. In Bipolar I, typically it is required there be at least one previous manic or mixed episode. Bipolar I only affects about .4% to 1.6% of the population with an average onset at around age 20. Bipolar I is recurrent. Typically first degree biological relatives have higher rates of being diagnosed with Bipolar I (4% to 24%), Bipolar II (1% - 5%), and Major Depressive Disorder (4% -24%).

With Bipolar II there must be an occurrence of one or more Major Depressive Episodes with at least one Hypomanic Episode. But you have to be careful in this situation with diagnosing Hypomanic following a major depressive episode because it could just be the individual feels euthymia after having been depressed for so long. Bipolar II is more common in women than in men, but in men the number of hypomanic episodes typically equal or surpasses the number of depressive episodes. Generally 60 to 70% of Hypomanic Episodes in Bipolar II follow a Major Depressive Episode.

But in order to meet the criteria for either Bipolar I or II, criteria must be met for Hypomania, Major Depression, Manic Episode, or Mixed Episode.

If anyone is interested I can type out what the criteria is for each, but reading through them, I don't think that Prince meets the criteria. For Manic, Mixed, or Major Depressive Episode one of the criteria that must be met is that the mood disturbance is sufficiently severe enough to cause marked iimpairment in occupational functioning or in usual social activities or relationships with others, or to necessitate hospitalization to prevent harm to self or others, or there are psychotic features. For a Hypomanic Episode one of the criteria that MUST BE met is that the episode is associated with an unequivocal change in functioning that is uncharacteristic of the person when not symptomatic. And three or more of the following symptoms have persisted (four if the mood is only irritable) and have been present to a significant degree:
1. Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity
2. Decreased need for sleep (e.g., feels rested after only 3 hours of sleep)
3. More talkative than usual
4. Flight of ideas or subjective experience that thoughts are racing
5. Distractibility (i.e., attention too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external stimuli)
6. Increase in goal-directed activity (either socially, at work or school, or sexually) or psychomotor agitation
7. Excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high potential for painful consequences (e.g., the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indescretions, or foolish business investments)

While it could be argued that at times Prince may have exhibited some of the above, there are other criteria that must be met in order to be diagnosed which Prince doesn't seem to meet.

Also keep in mind that if one reads through the DSM IV-TR that one is often able to find individuals within their own lives that may meet the criteria of many of the diagnosis BUT they may not meet all the criteria. It's easy to attempt to diagnose someone by reading the criteria, but you have to keep in mind that they must meet all of the criteria in order to be diagnosed with the condition AND you have to rule out other disorders before you can make the actual diagnosis.

I personally can attest to the Gemini aspect June 11th here!

I also have personal experience with bipolar, as my son has been diagnosed as such. The thing about mental illnesses is very tricky. So many symptoms of one mental illness are also present in other mental illnesses, making them very difficult to diagnose. For example, for years my son was diagnosed as ADHD, BUT the ADHD medicine never worked. The doctors kept switching it, trying to find the right one, but it never worked. I eventually elected to take him off of it myself. In his teen years, he was finally properly diagnosed as bipolar. The proper diagnosis has made the difference between night and die.

Bottom line, just because someone's personality portrays what one might perceive as symptoms of a mental disorder, doesn't mean anything. It could simply be their personality, and their upbringing, or it could indeed be a mental disorder.

I had a doctor years back try to say she thought I was bipolar. I never believed it, I chalked it up to my personality, my life, my etc. True to my belief, she is the only one of many that believed that. As I have grown older and circumstances have changed in my life, it is very evident that what she perceived as bipolar was a mere happenstance of my personality as a gemini and the happenings of my life as my life evolves.

Adam Ant definitely, but not Prince.


Stay strong, Adam.

Despite what people wanna believe,Prince is "bi" nothing.

squirrelgrease said:

You are better than Dr.Phil. You should have your own show. I would take your advice over his anyday

txladykat said:

June 1st here Texie, The key to evolution for us Gems is being able to integrate our dual nature, no? They say you gotta be a Gem to understand. So many thoughts, so little time.

Folks around here are using the term Gemini as if it's a diagnosis in itself.

I hope things continue to improve for your son and kudos to you for rejecting the mis-diagnoses, labels and stigmas.

babynoz said:

LOL, yea, I do think you have to be one to understand one that is why my father-in-law and I get along so well!

My son continues to excel now that he is on the right path. I mean, we went from a kid who was a half a step away from dropping out (beginning of 10th grade) to now is trying to decide which college he wants to go to (end of 10th grade). That is how much of a difference the right diagnosis made! Thank goodness I never did give up and accept at face value what they said. I knew and believed in my son like no one ever had. Previous npgmc members probably remember me asking for advice when I felt there was no where else to turn. It has been since that club closed down that he was correctly diagnosed and now on the path the a successful future.

Maybe. Who knows? I'm bipolar. It kinda sux, but I think Im a unique person because of it in some weird way.

ConsciousContact said:

I agree with you 100%. You summed it up nicely.

his psyche represents the battle between genius and the system imo

ConsciousContact said: