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Thread started 05/01/07 2:13am

MCBPrime

What is Prince's political opinion?

I've tried to figure out what Prince's political opinions are for awhile. I've heard some say he's pretty conservative with tracks like, "Ronnie Talk to Russia", "America", and the song "Call My Name" says, "they can bug my phone, put people 'round my home, they'll only find you and me making love inside" ...a popular conservative argument for government survaillance is the fact that if you have nothing to hide, why not let them do it? Many early reviews i've read of his music have the reviewers complaining that he adopted Reaganesque viewpoints. Anyone know anything on the subject?
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/07 2:36am

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I really don't see how Prince could be a conservative when it comes to many of his views.
Then on the other hand, he could be very conservative.

As usual, the coin has 2 sides..... confused
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/07 6:56am

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I don't think a person who would write a song like "Partyup" would be conservative. confused
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/07 6:57am

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MCBPrime said:

I've tried to figure out what Prince's political opinions are for awhile. I've heard some say he's pretty conservative with tracks like, "Ronnie Talk to Russia", "America",


I've tried this too. Dear mr man seems quite the opposite though... I guess he just doesn't want to profile himself politically. Or he doesn't know much about it (ronnie talk to russia smile ), or he just don't care (Erotic city).
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/07 7:04am

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Didn't he say "ain't no use in voting, same soul with a different name!" I think that's the answer.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/07 7:08am

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Wait a second, I just remember that question put to Prince during that Tavis Smiley interview back in 2004. Prince basically said stuff like politics are all just semantics. He then said that "an equal share is desired by all. We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families and do it to the best of our abilities"...or something like that. He then said that he's more concerned with where folks are at spiritually and wishes that people should adhere more to "the truth" (whatever that means).


Hope that helps. wink
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/07 7:10am

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Reply #7 posted 05/01/07 7:11am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Didn't he say "ain't no use in voting, same soul with a different name!" I think that's the answer.


Same song with a different name, actually.

I'm not sure if he has one. I know he cares about what happens in the world, but in one interview he said, "I tend to pledge my allegiance to God."

He wants the world to change for the better, but doesn't seem to have much faith in politicians.
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/07 7:13am

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*What's wrong ..with the world 2day?
Things just got 2 get better
Show me what the leaders say
Maybe we should write a letter*
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/07 7:20am

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come to think of it, I wonder if he wrote "Dear Mr. Man" in response to all of these people asking him the "Bush vs. Kerry" question... or it was just a coincidence that he wrote the song and that debate was going on.
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/07 7:24am

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NWF said:

Wait a second, I just remember that question put to Prince during that Tavis Smiley interview back in 2004. Prince basically said stuff like politics are all just semantics. He then said that "an equal share is desired by all. We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families and do it to the best of our abilities"...or something like that. He then said that he's more concerned with where folks are at spiritually and wishes that people should adhere more to "the truth" (whatever that means).


Hope that helps. wink


It doesn't, really. An "equal share" is a socialist concept. If he said, "equal chance," it'd be conservative -- or even libertarian. "We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families and do it to the best of our abilities," could also be construed as conservative or libertarian (i.e. -- leave folks alone to live as they see fit).
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/07 8:02am

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Genesia said:

NWF said:

Wait a second, I just remember that question put to Prince during that Tavis Smiley interview back in 2004. Prince basically said stuff like politics are all just semantics. He then said that "an equal share is desired by all. We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families and do it to the best of our abilities"...or something like that. He then said that he's more concerned with where folks are at spiritually and wishes that people should adhere more to "the truth" (whatever that means).


Hope that helps. wink


It doesn't, really. An "equal share" is a socialist concept. If he said, "equal chance," it'd be conservative -- or even libertarian. "We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families and do it to the best of our abilities," could also be construed as conservative or libertarian (i.e. -- leave folks alone to live as they see fit).


I think you're stretching there. As I see it, those quotes show he went out of his way to avoid affiliating himself with any party, or at least was trying to.
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Reply #12 posted 05/01/07 8:06am

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Efan said:

Genesia said:



It doesn't, really. An "equal share" is a socialist concept. If he said, "equal chance," it'd be conservative -- or even libertarian. "We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families and do it to the best of our abilities," could also be construed as conservative or libertarian (i.e. -- leave folks alone to live as they see fit).


I think you're stretching there. As I see it, those quotes show he went out of his way to avoid affiliating himself with any party, or at least was trying to.


Ummmmm...that's exactly what I was saying. You can't draw any conclusions about his politics because he's all over the map.
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/07 8:11am

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Genesia said:


Ummmmm...that's exactly what I was saying. You can't draw any conclusions about his politics because he's all over the map.


Come to think of it, does he ever give a straight answer for anything? lol
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/07 8:21am

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Genesia said:

Efan said:



I think you're stretching there. As I see it, those quotes show he went out of his way to avoid affiliating himself with any party, or at least was trying to.


Ummmmm...that's exactly what I was saying. You can't draw any conclusions about his politics because he's all over the map.


Okay. I thought you were drawing conclusions on those quotes, and I just meant that "We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families" could be taken as a conservative, libertarian, or liberal quote in American politics today.
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Reply #15 posted 05/01/07 8:27am

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Efan said:

Genesia said:



Ummmmm...that's exactly what I was saying. You can't draw any conclusions about his politics because he's all over the map.


Okay. I thought you were drawing conclusions on those quotes, and I just meant that "We all just wanna take care of ourselves and our families" could be taken as a conservative, libertarian, or liberal quote in American politics today.


It also wasn't a verbatim quote -- which makes a huge difference.
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Reply #16 posted 05/01/07 9:02am

MCBPrime

Didn't he also say things like...

"Ain't Nothin' fare about welfare" - conservative?
"Ain't nothing affirmative about your action, till the people get paid." - is this opposed to affirmative action? conservative? Anyone know what J.W.s believe on issues like abortion?
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Reply #17 posted 05/01/07 9:49am

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MCBPrime said:

I've tried to figure out what Prince's political opinions are for awhile. Anyone know anything on the subject?


He's politically neutral.
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Reply #18 posted 05/01/07 11:19am

MCBPrime

You know, I really love Prince for this. I would respect his opinion if he chose to come out with it up front, but I get so fed up with people shoving their opinions in our faces. I'm looking at you Green Day and U2.
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Reply #19 posted 05/01/07 12:01pm

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MCBPrime said:

Didn't he also say things like...

"Ain't Nothin' fare about welfare" - conservative?
"Ain't nothing affirmative about your action, till the people get paid." - is this opposed to affirmative action? conservative? Anyone know what J.W.s believe on issues like abortion?


You'd have to start a thread in P&R for the answer those questions! wink
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Reply #20 posted 05/01/07 12:29pm

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MCBPrime said:

... "Call My Name" says, "they can bug my phone, put people 'round my home, they'll only find you and me making love inside" ...a popular conservative argument for government survaillance is the fact that if you have nothing to hide, why not let them do it?


Hello? you're missing a line here- it begins with "What's the matter with the world 2day?
Land of the free? Somebody lied
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a liberal sentence after my own heart.....not a thing conservative about it.
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Reply #21 posted 05/01/07 12:33pm

MCBPrime

paisley16 said:

MCBPrime said:

... "Call My Name" says, "they can bug my phone, put people 'round my home, they'll only find you and me making love inside" ...a popular conservative argument for government survaillance is the fact that if you have nothing to hide, why not let them do it?


Hello? you're missing a line here- it begins with "What's the matter with the world 2day?
Land of the free? Somebody lied
"

a liberal sentence after my own heart.....not a thing conservative about it.



That's true, but it's still unclear. I like the idea that he's kind of neutral. The whole "Same song with a different name" thing really backs that up.
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Reply #22 posted 05/01/07 12:54pm

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MCBPrime said:

paisley16 said:



Hello? you're missing a line here- it begins with "What's the matter with the world 2day?
Land of the free? Somebody lied
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a liberal sentence after my own heart.....not a thing conservative about it.



That's true, but it's still unclear. I like the idea that he's kind of neutral. The whole "Same song with a different name" thing really backs that up.


I don't mean to be argumentative, but on this point I think he's pretty clear. "land of the free, somebody lied?"
I agree he can be neutral at other times however.
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Reply #23 posted 05/01/07 12:58pm

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He also appears to be getting on the "planet earth", global warming issue- which is more liberal than conservative- if you had to choose.
Still waiting to see if he plays Live Earth.
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Reply #24 posted 05/01/07 1:45pm

MCBPrime

paisley16 said:

He also appears to be getting on the "planet earth", global warming issue- which is more liberal than conservative- if you had to choose.
Still waiting to see if he plays Live Earth.


It's a shame that issue is political at all, don't you think?
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Reply #25 posted 05/01/07 2:10pm

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MCBPrime said:

paisley16 said:

He also appears to be getting on the "planet earth", global warming issue- which is more liberal than conservative- if you had to choose.
Still waiting to see if he plays Live Earth.


It's a shame that issue is political at all, don't you think?


it sure is. sad
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Reply #26 posted 05/02/07 2:21pm

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I don't think a person who would write a song like "Partyup" would be conservative. confused



I always thought Morris Day wrote that one? confuse
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Reply #27 posted 05/02/07 2:51pm

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NWF said:

I don't think a person who would write a song like "Partyup" would be conservative. confused


You have obviously never partied with conservatives. I have -- many, many, many times. And trust me -- they a bunch o' freaks. lol

In fact, they're more fun to party with than most of the liberals I know -- because they don't take themselves so seriously.
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Reply #28 posted 05/02/07 3:14pm

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Jehovah's Witnesses are discouraged, but not prohibited under all circumstances, from voting in elections. They believe voting or elections in themselves are harmless, for example, although they would not vote to elect a political leader, they would not object to voting on a non-political issue such as what color balloons to buy for a party. They do not stand for any political office.
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Reply #29 posted 05/06/07 12:25pm

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I think he's moderate; Or more importantly, peaceful. I know he drops references in songs stating that he's not a man of war.
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