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Thread started 05/06/07 5:46am

JoeTyler

Emancipation: great songs, clumsy production

As much as I love Emancipation, I truly believe that the production is rubbish, one of his worst of his entire career.
Am I the only one who thinks that songs like Right back here in my arms, Somebody's somebody, White mansion or the entire third CD would have worked far better with an organic production (like Diamonds and pearls). But instead they sound artificial, plastic and...cheap!!! (just like the art-work of the booklet).
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Reply #1 posted 05/06/07 6:33am

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I actually think the 'plastic' production worked well for that album.
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Reply #2 posted 05/06/07 6:24pm

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Well, I wouldn't use D&P as a yardstick for much of anything for a start... lol

Now, if it had aproduction similar to prince, Come or TGE that would have worked okay for me.

I actually don't mind the production on most of Emancipation. There are some songs that could have benefitted from a little different treatment but, overall, it works and fits his mood at the time.
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Reply #3 posted 05/06/07 7:05pm

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I like it very much thank-you!
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Reply #4 posted 05/06/07 8:42pm

Jatrig

I gotta admit - I agree. I've listend to "Mr. Happy" so many times wishing that it had been done with the same production of his "Exodus" or "The Gold Experience" album. It's a shame because those songs were pretty good -- but the painful synthesizers and overall corny sound make it lame sad I feel the same about New Power Soul -- imagine that album with the same production as Exodus or TGE -- that album would be raw funk.
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Reply #5 posted 05/06/07 8:57pm

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JoeTyler said:

As much as I love Emancipation, I truly believe that the production is rubbish, one of his worst of his entire career.
Am I the only one who thinks that songs like Right back here in my arms, Somebody's somebody, White mansion or the entire third CD would have worked far better with an organic production (like Diamonds and pearls). But instead they sound artificial, plastic and...cheap!!! (just like the art-work of the booklet).
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OH PLEASE! Emancipation is for the most part... WONDERFUL!

CD #2 is a GEM of a product and contains some of Prince's most heartfelt and sincere music... and BEST and most UNDERATED slow jams.

CD #1 has some classics that simply go overlooked... like YES... White Mansion and Somebody's Somebody... and although CD 3 is my least fave of the bunch, One of Us is pure MAGIC, Style is a BLAST, and many others are thought provoking, and relaxing to just sit back and groove to.

Honestly, I think The Gold Experience is OVER PRODUCED to annoying degree... but I still like many of the songs individually.

It's funny how just when we're ready to dismiss an album, we play it again for the first time in a long time, and then realize how much we like many songs on it.

In my opinion, the only album that was probably underproduced was The Truth... but even that album is Prince as an artist in the purest sense of the word... at work.
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Reply #6 posted 05/06/07 10:58pm

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I just think it needed some live drums.
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Reply #7 posted 05/07/07 7:11am

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bobsteezy said:

I just think it needed some live drums.



Agreed, some of the songs would have sounded miles better with live drumming. Well, that and for crap like Sleep Around to be left off the cd.
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Reply #8 posted 05/08/07 5:26am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

bobsteezy said:

I just think it needed some live drums.



Agreed, some of the songs would have sounded miles better with live drumming. Well, that and for crap like Sleep Around to be left off the cd.


lol,I think "Sleep Around" should have been the first single
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Reply #9 posted 05/08/07 5:37am

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yeah, the plastic sound is mildly annoying.
but the sound doensn't matter if the song is real good and there are great songs on Emancipation (Jam of the Year, In This Bed Eye Scream, The Love We Make, the title track, Style, White Mansion, Face Down...)
but the weaker songs seem even weaker BECAUSE of the poor sound to go with it, i agree.
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Reply #10 posted 05/08/07 8:23am

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SoulAlive said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




Agreed, some of the songs would have sounded miles better with live drumming. Well, that and for crap like Sleep Around to be left off the cd.


lol,I think "Sleep Around" should have been the first single



Why? What radio station do you think would have put an ode to step areobics into their regular rotation? neutral
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Reply #11 posted 05/08/07 8:27am

ian

I don't know what "organic production" means.
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Reply #12 posted 05/08/07 11:11am

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SoulAlive said:

lol,I think "Sleep Around" should have been the first single


I agree! That seemed like exactly the right song to fit radio at that period (or at least as close as Prince was going to get with anything from E).
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Reply #13 posted 05/08/07 11:29am

RZR

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SOME great songs. MOSTLY clumsy production.



probably 80 minutes of keepers over all. or maybe a double disc set at 50 minutes a piece, if you throw in some of the better outtakes.
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Reply #14 posted 05/08/07 12:17pm

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drink Nothing to add, just had to show up and post the requisite pooptoast to express my disdain for all things Emancipation. doody
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Reply #15 posted 05/09/07 4:26am

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ian said:

I don't know what "organic production" means.



I think they mean...music that is made with "real" instruments (drums,piano,bass guitar) as opposed to music made with machines (drum machines...that fake,plastic programmed bass that you hear in so much 90s R&B,etc).Alot of songs on 'Emancipation' feature the latter.
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Reply #16 posted 05/09/07 4:27am

SoulAlive

jtfolden said:

SoulAlive said:

lol,I think "Sleep Around" should have been the first single


I agree! That seemed like exactly the right song to fit radio at that period (or at least as close as Prince was going to get with anything from E).


nod woulda been a big club hit,too.
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Reply #17 posted 05/09/07 4:54am

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SoulAlive said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Agreed, some of the songs would have sounded miles better with live drumming. Well, that and for crap like Sleep Around to be left off the cd.


lol,I think "Sleep Around" should have been the first single


My fave on the album. Great track.
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