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Printablejtfolden said: DreamyPopRoyalty said: Oh... tough call... he's got so much material that I love on my 4 albums.
But here's a handful of my favorites The Beautiful Ones A Million Days The Word The Dance Te Amo Corazon Computer Blue (obviously, Gold & PR= my top 2 favorites) Dolphin Cinnamon Girl I doubt how much anyone can make out of that... with the material I've heard... I've only found 5 songs that I didn't like... and I've heard a lot of his material over the past 3 months months. So I doubt there'd be a great deal I'd be disappointed with Well, my first recommendation after seeing that list would be for you to get TGE, but you already have that. 
Judging by what you've said previously and this list then I think you'd enjoy: From the 90's: Come - even more than we'd talked about previously.  - Really, the closest thing to TGE in arrangement/production
...and many will poo-poo the idea, but if you like Prince's more 'guitar pop' style of music, then if you see Chaos & Disorder going cheap/used you really ought to give it a try. Which all those albums happen to be from the same general time period as TGE. From the 80's you would probably like 1999 and Sign O' The Times (I'd get SOTT first, as the second half should be very appealing to you). Given you like Te Amo Corazon, then you would probably enjoy Parade. Off your original list, I might push ATWIAD and Diamonds and Pearls more towards the bottom as I think they're moving away from what it *seems* you like going off that very short list of songs. Rave/Emancipation are a toss up as I don't see anything for against that sound just based on your list. I like C&D! 
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RobDogg27 said: I like C&D!
Don't be afraid. I enjoy it, too! It's not at the top of my list but I have no real problems with it (except for Right The Wrong ). | |
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RobDogg27 said: jtfolden said: Well, my first recommendation after seeing that list would be for you to get TGE, but you already have that.
Judging by what you've said previously and this list then I think you'd enjoy: From the 90's: Come - even more than we'd talked about previously. - Really, the closest thing to TGE in arrangement/production
...and many will poo-poo the idea, but if you like Prince's more 'guitar pop' style of music, then if you see Chaos & Disorder going cheap/used you really ought to give it a try. Which all those albums happen to be from the same general time period as TGE. From the 80's you would probably like 1999 and Sign O' The Times (I'd get SOTT first, as the second half should be very appealing to you). Given you like Te Amo Corazon, then you would probably enjoy Parade. Off your original list, I might push ATWIAD and Diamonds and Pearls more towards the bottom as I think they're moving away from what it *seems* you like going off that very short list of songs. Rave/Emancipation are a toss up as I don't see anything for against that sound just based on your list. I like C&D!
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You guys are killing me...
Sorry, my head's still spinning a little. Among my first threads was the following: I'm going to look for my first Prince albums. I already know I want to get Musicology and 3121. I'll only have enough money for one more. Would you recommend Emancipation or Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic as my 3rd? As more time passes, Rave follows further and further down my list of priorities. The only thing that has me looking at it is I love TGRES and in my very first dream about Prince, I saw him as he was during that time (98-99). Emancipation hasn't fallen off my list, it's always been pretty high. The impression I get is that Prince called it a very joyous record with a little something for everyone. Boy, what a contrast that'll be... Come vs. Emancipation (where he's at his angriest and where he's at his happiest during that particular time in his life). Plus, it comes right after TGE, so of course I'd be interested. If I could narrow my list down right now, my top priorities would be: Come, Emancipation, 1999 and SOTT had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: As more time passes, Rave follows further and further down my list of priorities. The only thing that has me looking at it is I love TGRES
TGRES is a totally great song. Indeed, I think it's probably his last great single. HOWEVER, it is NOT representative of the album as a whole. That's not a bad reflection on the album, it's just that each track is headed in a different direction, musically, so liking one track doesn't really mean you'll enjoy the rest. This is true for Emancipation, too, where not only is each song different but it's got a different mood from disc to disc as well. I like it when Prince is eclectic, though... Boy, what a contrast that'll be... Come vs. Emancipation (where he's at his angriest and where he's at his happiest during that particular time in his life). Plus, it comes right after TGE, so of course I'd be interested.
Come really isn't "angry" music. It's a 'serious' record with lots of 'sexy' moments, just ever so slightly 'lonely' or 'bitter' sounding in places but I think with "letitgo' the album ends on a high note, with Prince at peace with his 'past'. There's nothing as angry or pleading sounding as there is on TGE (Dolphin, I Hate U, etc...). ...and like I said before, Chaos & Disorder is the album that comes right after TGE. If I could narrow my list down right now, my top priorities would be:
Come, Emancipation, 1999 and SOTT Get the best of both worlds, one from each decade - Come and SOTT.  | |
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The first two I got were Parade and SOTT. You can't go wrong with chosing those ones since you already have Purple Rain. | |
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jtfolden said: Come really isn't "angry" music. It's a 'serious' record with lots of 'sexy' moments, just ever so slightly 'lonely' or 'bitter' sounding in places but I think with "letitgo' the album ends on a high note, with Prince at peace with his 'past'. There's nothing as angry or pleading sounding as there is on TGE (Dolphin, I Hate U, etc...). If I could narrow my list down right now, my top priorities would be:
Come, Emancipation, 1999 and SOTT Get the best of both worlds, one from each decade - Come and SOTT. I can see myself getting two albums, but each corresponds to a diff. era... so I don't completely focus on one area and keep things interesting... not telling one era fall behind (or even worse, out of favor). Haha... I thought TGE was an unusual album... but Come really mind-boggling and this is all from here-say... When I first came here, Come wasn't spoken of very much. Based on the content, I thought it was supposedly angry/dark/bitter, however u wanna put it. But it certainly seems like Come & TGE have a yin/yang type of relationship. TGE shines with a brilliant light. I see Come shrouded in darkness (I dont know how I got that impression, it was over a month ago when I first got that impression). But since the tracks were written at the same time, the sound of one transcends into the sound of the other and vice versa. As different as they are, they're also very similair. Yeah, I know I'm going completely overboard with this analyzing... but when I get Come, things will get really interesting. Haha, I'll listened to Come & TGE for weeks... I can just see me now. Nothing on Come is as angry as "  Hate U"? Phew, that blows me away... although Dolphin can be interpreted with the fight against WB in mind, I don't see it as "angry or pleading", quite the opposite.had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: If I could narrow my list down right now, my top priorities would be: Come, Emancipation, 1999 and SOTT A part of me is really jealous at the fact you've still to hear all this stuff, all the excitement of a new album you've never heard etc. still to come. Seems like ages ago since I had that outside of new releases. My teens were spent hunting down Prince albums. I remember the anticipation when I finally got a copy of the Black Album!! I'm not going to try and convince you which to buy. I find something great in every album, though if pushed for a favourite it would be The Gold Experience. Just don't disregard ANY of his albums, is the only advice I can give, as someone not so long ago in the same position as yourself. So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young? | |
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1999 & SOTT r 2 of the greatest albums ever made ..... every MF on the planet should own a copy  Live4Love
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alxndrstff said: DreamyPopRoyalty said: If I could narrow my list down right now, my top priorities would be: Come, Emancipation, 1999 and SOTT A part of me is really jealous at the fact you've still to hear all this stuff, all the excitement of a new album you've never heard etc. still to come. Seems like ages ago since I had that outside of new releases. My teens were spent hunting down Prince albums. I remember the anticipation when I finally got a copy of the Black Album!! I'm not going to try and convince you which to buy. I find something great in every album, though if pushed for a favourite it would be The Gold Experience. Just don't disregard ANY of his albums, is the only advice I can give, as someone not so long ago in the same position as yourself. Haha... a common story I've heard a few times. At times, I feel like I jumped on the ride at the right time (considering how perfect my age of 20 is for Prince's material), while others, I feel bad that I didn't get here sooner cuz I've got so much catching up to do. Its threads like these that make me really love this site. The decision will ultimately be my own, but if people keep pushing me in a certain direction towards a certain album, I'm pretty luckily to get it. As was the case with TGE. The best advice I ever got was to get it. Used and in mint condition, can't get much better than that. My main reasoning behind picking it up was: omg, I heard that this is so hard to come by. I'd better get it now when I have the change. I'm more likely to jump on albums harder to come by as soon as I see them. Here's an update of my priority list: in order of preference, Come, 1999, Emancipation, SOTT, , D&P, ATWIAD, Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic
And if I find Parade, I'm just as likely to jump on it if I can't find anything of the others. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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jtfolden said: RobDogg27 said: I like C&D!
Don't be afraid. I enjoy it, too! It's not at the top of my list but I have no real problems with it (except for Right The Wrong ).Chaos and Disorder  | |
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I... don't really understand.
Start at For You, and work your way through the albums in order. It really is the only way. Look, most of the 90s stuff is not that great - we love it because we're fans, but it just isn't half as good as 80s stuff. Your list of"must-have" albums exhibits some shockingly bad taste / judgement. Maybe you're having a laugh at our expense? Crystal Ball is mostly just plain bad. Anyone who would buy that ahead of Parade, or Dirty Mind, or SOTT needs their head examined. Forget Diamonds and Pearls, , Come, Emancipation and Rave for a start. Those albums have a handful of gems between them, and all find a few ardent supporters here on the Org, but frankly if you haven't heard the likes of Sign O The Times, Dirty Mind, Lovesexy, Parade etc you'd be crazy to start with the ropier 90s stuff. If you have to choose two albums next, get SOTT and Dirty Mind. Unless you don't like good music, in which case buy the shit you listed instead. | |
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ian said: I... don't really understand.
Start at For You, and work your way through the albums in order. It really is the only way. Look, most of the 90s stuff is not that great - we love it because we're fans, but it just isn't half as good as 80s stuff. Your list of"must-have" You know, I think it's hilarious when people start voicing their own simple, personal opinions as universal fact. It really makes me laugh.... hold on a minute.
Okay, I'm back. If you love the 80's stuff, that's great. I like it to, but I prefer most of his 90's stuff overall. 1999, Parade, and SOTT are the only 80's releases that get much play here. is a phenomenal album, absolutely filled to the brim with great music. It's my favorite Prince album by far and I'd choose it over everything else, any day of the week. TGE and Come are, also, fabulous. If you can't enjoy them, well, shame for you... | |
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Okay, I'm back. Let's try this: Given the albums I have, what would be a good next move for me? For those who don't know me & my tastes all that well, here're how I rank the albums I already own. 1. TGE- A (haven't stopped raving about it once I "got" it) 2. PR- A/A- (in respect 2 TGE... a remarkable representation of 80's music. And was everything I thought it'd be. It's been gathering dust in my dad's CD collection so I "adopted" it the week I rented the movie & saw it 4 the first time) 3. Musicology- B+/B (can seem worlds apart from the other 2, but I love the organic sound of the album. And I think its full of personality). 4. 3121- B/B- (the weakest of the 4, but I like its variety. My fav. feature is that the songs were crafted so well. Prince knew exactly which ones he should extend (The Dance/Get on the Boat) and which ones he should just keep short & sweet (The Word).) Haha, given some thought, Rave is just inches away from dropping into obscurity cuz I've got no motivation to get it, at least not for a while. But everything depends on what I see. Parade is ready to take Rave's position on my priority list thu I'm still not completely sure about it.had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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Personally, I'd dump D&P for Parade, and leave Rave on there - but that's just me.
It's becoming obvious that what you really need is a good way to sample tracks off each album first... we can all provide opinions but only your own ears can really tell you. | |
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jtfolden said: Personally, I'd dump D&P for Parade, and leave Rave on there - but that's just me.
It's becoming obvious that what you really need is a good way to sample tracks off each album first... we can all provide opinions but only your own ears can really tell you. Very true. Everyone has there favorites so that is what they are going to suggest. You need to find a site where you can hear samples and you should be able to see what you are going to like. | |
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jtfolden said: Personally, I'd dump D&P for Parade, and leave Rave on there - but that's just me.
It's becoming obvious that what you really need is a good way to sample tracks off each album first... we can all provide opinions but only your own ears can really tell you. You've got a point. When it comes down to it, whatever I get, I'm going to pour a lot of time into it to really be sure whether I like it or not. Cuz first impressions aren't always correct. It worked out with TGE... but I kinda wish I didn't pour as much time into listening to 3121 cuz I tend to like it less these days
Since Prince poured so much time into making every single one of his albums, I feel its only right that I do the same. I'm sure to find something in every album that I like. But with him, my rankings boil down to how strong the album is as a whole. Cuz he put his albums together in a particular way for a particular reason. And I'd very much like to see why. It helps me get into his mind and in the case of TGE, "become one with him"... that sort of thing. That's what helps set him from any other artist I've checked into before in my eyes. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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Buy mine having to put bits on every week on ebay! | |
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How dare all of u 4 not recommending LOVESEXY!!!!!1
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!!! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: How dare all of u 4 not recommending LOVESEXY!!!!!1
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!!!  Lovesexy is the one! | |
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jess555ja said: bboy87 said: How dare all of u 4 not recommending LOVESEXY!!!!!1
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!!!!! Lovesexy is the one!like totally get LOVEsexy  | |
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Militant said: SOTT is Prince at his absolute peak, it is a must own.
Dirty Mind is also a must own. You really can't consider yourself a fan of Prince until you appreciate the absolute revolutionary nature of that album. It set the tone for everything he did in the 80's without a doubt. Preach young person, Preach on!! | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: I'll let you guys chew on this for a while. I gotta read thru my Ecology book for an exam on Tuesday. Between this Thursday and next week, I'll be getting 2 more albums for my collection.
I know which 8 albums I must have in my collection and I'll give u the list in chronological order (not order of preference). 1999 Around the World in a Day Sign O' The Times Diamonds & Pearls
Come Emancipation Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic There are two albums trying to nudge their way onto my list: Parade & Crystal Ball. And if I feel in the need 4 more Prince music or I want to fill in some gaps, I might get them further down the road. I think the best approach would be looking for albums to help fill in the gaps I've created with my small collection: Purple Rain, The Gold Experience, Musicology, 3121 In other words, I'll look 4 1999 & ATWIAD to smooth things over with Purple Rain. Or I'll look 4 Come & Emancipation to fit around TGE. It kinda depends on what I find really... but I figure it's better to go this way rather than getting an album that's nowhere near any of the others. (D&P or ). I had a bit of a difficult time smoothing things over when I bumped between PR & TGE cuz they're 2 eras that are worlds apart... it got pretty ugly.
So I welcome any suggestions/deletions/substitutions/additions. I most likely won't listen to the deletions/substitutions... or I value advice however I can get it. You do realise that it is you're shopping you're discussing with such gravitas here, don't you? Well, if you think those 8 albums are the must haves - the last 5 are way down on my list, then you'll probably pay no attention to me urging you to get Dirty Mind and Parade. | |
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jtfolden said: ian said: I... don't really understand.
Start at For You, and work your way through the albums in order. It really is the only way. Look, most of the 90s stuff is not that great - we love it because we're fans, but it just isn't half as good as 80s stuff. Your list of"must-have" You know, I think it's hilarious when people start voicing their own simple, personal opinions as universal fact. It really makes me laugh.... hold on a minute.
Okay, I'm back. If you love the 80's stuff, that's great. I like it to, but I prefer most of his 90's stuff overall. 1999, Parade, and SOTT are the only 80's releases that get much play here. is a phenomenal album, absolutely filled to the brim with great music. It's my favorite Prince album by far and I'd choose it over everything else, any day of the week. TGE and Come are, also, fabulous. If you can't enjoy them, well, shame for you...It is all just opinions here. Obviously. The thread creator asked for opinions, and that's what we all gave. I enjoy the albums you mentioned just fine, but I also have the good taste to recognise that they aren't a patch on Prince's earlier work. You think is Prince's best album? Er, fine. Don't be surprised when I and many others disagree with you though. Having completely clueless opinions is fine in the privacy of your own head, but when you start to inflict them upon others you shouldn't act surprised when people speak out in disagreement.
Opinions are one thing, but some things are just so undeniably true that all else is madness. SOTT, Lovesexy, Parade, 1999, Dirty Mind... these albums represent Prince at his creative peak. Prince did some great work in the 90s, and he had arguably his tightest band ever (the 95 NPG) but the albums just cannot stand up against his 80s output. | |
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ian said: I... don't really understand.
Start at For You, and work your way through the albums in order. It really is the only way. Look, most of the 90s stuff is not that great - we love it because we're fans, but it just isn't half as good as 80s stuff. Your list of"must-have" albums exhibits some shockingly bad taste / judgement. Maybe you're having a laugh at our expense? Crystal Ball is mostly just plain bad. Anyone who would buy that ahead of Parade, or Dirty Mind, or SOTT needs their head examined. Forget Diamonds and Pearls, , Come, Emancipation and Rave for a start. Those albums have a handful of gems between them, and all find a few ardent supporters here on the Org, but frankly if you haven't heard the likes of Sign O The Times, Dirty Mind, Lovesexy, Parade etc you'd be crazy to start with the ropier 90s stuff. If you have to choose two albums next, get SOTT and Dirty Mind. Unless you don't like good music, in which case buy the shit you listed instead.AMEN ... Work yourself through the back-catalogue chronological!! This is the only way to fully understand the development of Prince ... Buy an album ... listen to it for a few weeks / months ... and buy the next! That the ideal way to discover Prince's music I bet your not so hungry for the next album after listening to Batman - GF - D&P - the symbol | |
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PARADE this is a must have and the GOLD experience Yeah it's like "oh you mocked me for liking him but now he's dead it's cool to play him again?" And then they look at you funny when you don't play him. -Timmy on after 6-25 fans | |
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Hey Dreamy...
Just a little insight (since I've been in your shoes). I put off buying several albums for my collection because people kept saying that others were "must-haves", and basically ended up finding out later that I should have gone with my gut. In most cases the ones I put off buying (ie. the ones nobody else seems to like much) wound up being my favorites. In other words don't let somebody else tell you what they think you should have based on what they like. You should celebrate Princes diversity based on what you enjoy most about him. If I were to tell you what I would get it would be something like Parade, Lovesexy, or TRC. But that's not what we're going for here. I know you were very impressed with TGE. So I would say (based on that) that you might enjoy  or maybe even D&P. Go to Amazon.com and listen to sample tracks. That way you know what you're getting into first.
Good luck!! "You've got a million dollar smile, but you can't buy time...
When you're running away, and you're a step behind..." ~Maxx | |
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Maxx said: Hey Dreamy...
Just a little insight (since I've been in your shoes). I put off buying several albums for my collection because people kept saying that others were "must-haves", and basically ended up finding out later that I should have gone with my gut. In most cases the ones I put off buying (ie. the ones nobody else seems to like much) wound up being my favorites. In other words don't let somebody else tell you what they think you should have based on what they like. You should celebrate Princes diversity based on what you enjoy most about him. If I were to tell you what I would get it would be something like Parade, Lovesexy, or TRC. But that's not what we're going for here. I know you were very impressed with TGE. So I would say (based on that) that you might enjoy or maybe even D&P. Go to Amazon.com and listen to sample tracks. That way you know what you're getting into first.
Good luck!! Thanx. When I found TGE at FYE, regardless of the fact it was used, my gut told me to get it. Firstly cuz I thought it was so rare I wouldnt be able to find it so easily. And secondly, cuz people kept saying how great it was. And of course I've heard Gold and was in love the song. Chances are that I'll see an album (say Parade) and I'll pick it up cuz my gut tells me. Parade's being trying to get on my priority list for days now, so it's very likely that I'll pick it up. Boy, I really can't wait to get college over with so I can go home and begin my search anew. I'm looking for albums strong as a whole, but also ones full of personality. That'll help me get to know Prince. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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You should go to Amazon.com or a music store that allows you to sample tracks off of each album before you buy it. This has worked wonders for me, and encouraged me to buy albums that weren't even on my want list.
Let's face it, you are going to get different answers from just about everyone on this site. Only you know what kind of music you like. I would recommend choosing albums based on your own taste, rather than what other people think you should have. I'm sure you'll eventually have all of the albums mentioned here, but you should spend your money on the ones that you will enjoy most right now. Oh wait, it looks like Maxx pretty much said what I wanted to say already. [Edited 4/30/07 9:22am] Wanna hear me sing? www.ChampagneHoneybee.com | |
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ian said: I enjoy the albums you mentioned just fine, but I also have the good taste to recognise that they aren't a patch on Prince's earlier work. You think
is Prince's best album? Er, fine. Don't be surprised when I and many others disagree with you though. Having completely clueless opinions is fine in the privacy of your own head, but when you start to inflict them upon others you shouldn't act surprised when people speak out in disagreement. You seem to be one of those individuals who have no clue of your own so therefore need the agreement of others to guide you and validate your opinion. That's fine if you need to live that way, keeping up with the masses, Prince likes sheep. He even devoted some artwork space to your kind on the inside of the Rave case. The problem there is that it doesn't matter whether one person agrees or a million do, it will still never be anything other than opinion. Opinions are one thing, but some things are just so undeniably true that all else is madness. SOTT, Lovesexy, Parade, 1999, Dirty Mind... these albums represent Prince at his creative peak. Prince did some great work in the 90s, and he had arguably his tightest band ever (the 95 NPG) but the albums just cannot stand up against his 80s output.
Again, very nice and i would agree to a point but it's still all just subjective opinion... it will never be undeniably true. If this fact shakes your world vision, I am terribly sorry for you. However, speaking from an air of authority when you have none, and knocking other people's taste because you don't agree, tends to make you look like a jerk with an inferiority complex. You might want to take a look at that. | |
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