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Fave type of Bootlegs Yes Folks its the Mod Magnet! so lets obey the rules here. Discussing is okay but NO where can i get.
Anyway my question is - What are your prefered type of bootleg and why? *rehearsal *Concert *Outtake * neither, i wouldnt touch a boot with a shitty stick I would have to go with Rehearsal boots. I know that they may often be monotonous with the same song being repeated over and over but i just love hearing Princes musical instruction/direction to his band. Perhaps it's because im a musician, but i sometimes just listen in awe at how he hears everything in his band. So attentive - for instance, on the bootleg 'an honest man' during anotherloverholenyohead. He is all over the place directing the band - taking brown mark through the bass part - telling eric to create a horn line for the live version - then he inprovives that beautiful melody on the piano. I could listen to it all day So what type of boots do u prefer and why? Again, respect this site and its rules folks. [Edited 4/29/07 3:30am] | |
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outtakes first, then rehearsals, then concerts.
outtakes because i like hearing the album cuts/hits that could have been. rehearsals, because i like hearing his songs taken apart and worked through - it puts a new perspective on the music. and concerts last because sometimes you get really nice surprises, but sometimes it can just be a lot of boring whatever with dodgy quality. yawn. | |
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Anx said: outtakes first, then rehearsals, then concerts.
outtakes because i like hearing the album cuts/hits that could have been. rehearsals, because i like hearing his songs taken apart and worked through - it puts a new perspective on the music. and concerts last because sometimes you get really nice surprises, but sometimes it can just be a lot of boring whatever with dodgy quality. yawn. 2nd that !! Greetz BestMusic4meandU PRINCE WROTE THE SOUNDTRACK OF MY LIFE.
DON'T 4GET 2 LISTEN 2 PRINCE & LEARN !! IF ANYBODY ASKS U - U BELONG 2 PRINCE ! | |
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Outtakes are grand but really nothing new for awhile.
Video is best! | |
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Well, I don't have any rehersal bootlegs so I will go with Outtakes and then Concerts. I agree with realm though. Video is the best. | |
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My favorite type of bootlegs? All of them!   RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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None of them.
I'm not into bootlegs and I'm not looking for them. Somebody sent me a site full of them... I look one look around and I got a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. So I backed away slowly and ran for the hills after that w/o looking [so I don't remember the address or care to]. Prince doesn't approve of them and for that reason, I won't get into them because I respect his wishes whenever/however I can. I'll just stick with collecting his released albums, thank you. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: None of them.
I'm not into bootlegs and I'm not looking for them. Somebody sent me a site full of them... I look one look around and I got a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. So I backed away slowly and ran for the hills after that w/o looking [so I don't remember the address or care to]. Prince doesn't approve of them and for that reason, I won't get into them because I respect his wishes whenever/however I can. I'll just stick with collecting his released albums, thank you. see, but then he invites fans to his celebrations at paisley park and has polls for what unrleased songs they'd like to see on a "crystal ball 2". how would fans know to answer that poll if we hadn't heard the bootlegs? he knows we listen to them and he's engaged us on that topic. and in the crystal ball liner notes, talking about how "movie star" was d'angelo's favorite unreleased demo. did prince give him a good talking to? you wouldn't know it from the liner notes! 
based on all this, i believe it's just fine to LISTEN to unreleased stuff. i think it's completely cool to TRADE and SHARE it. it's when money changes hands that it starts getting shady and ethicaly iffy, i think. fortunately, i think the coming of the internet has taken money out of bootleggers' hands and made the "catalog" of prince bootlegs available to anyone with a modem. i'm not sure what prince thinks of this, but i personally think it does him more good than harm. it just bolsters his legendary status as a creative whirlwind and an artist with more great work than he knows what to do with. bootlegs are a huge part of other artists' legacy - the grateful dead and bruce springsteen come to mind - and i think prince has become one of those artists over the past couple of decades. i think it helps him, whether he sees it that way or not. | |
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Pandurito's the best guy to ask. | |
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Prince should sell them and donate the money. | |
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luvsexy4all said: Prince should sell them and donate the money.
there are so many ways prince could "beat the boots", but his whole attitude is "the past is the past and i'm on to the next thing", so unfortunately all that great unreleased stuff from years past goes neglected (aside from the bootleggage underground, anyway).  | |
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Anx said: luvsexy4all said: Prince should sell them and donate the money.
there are so many ways prince could "beat the boots", but his whole attitude is "the past is the past and i'm on to the next thing", so unfortunately all that great unreleased stuff from years past goes neglected (aside from the bootleggage underground, anyway). Prince claims he is purely a progressor and continuely moves forward. i beg to differ. It just seems that he concentrates his efforts on the wrong aspects of the past. | |
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3121 said: Anx said: there are so many ways prince could "beat the boots", but his whole attitude is "the past is the past and i'm on to the next thing", so unfortunately all that great unreleased stuff from years past goes neglected (aside from the bootleggage underground, anyway). Prince claims he is purely a progressor and continuely moves forward. i beg to differ. It just seems that he concentrates his efforts on the wrong aspects of the past. i wouldn't disagree with that.  | |
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Rehearsals definitely. I love hearing his directions to the others and general chit chat. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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paisley16 said: Rehearsals definitely. I love hearing his directions to the others and general chit chat.
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Outtakes, without a doubt.
I love hearing all the songs that never quite made it onto an album or b-side, and all the early and alternate incarnations of various songs. It's a shame that this part of the bootleg scene has pretty much dried up now. | |
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damn never mind boots...we cant even get
official releases on a more regular flow needs some damn metamucil | |
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BorisFishpaw said: Outtakes, without a doubt.
I love hearing all the songs that never quite made it onto an album or b-side, and all the early and alternate incarnations of various songs. It's a shame that this part of the bootleg scene has pretty much dried up now. What do u attribute that to, Boris? what is so different now than back then to make such a huge change in the emergence of new outtakes? its so strange how its just dried up. When was the last known outtake? [Edited 4/29/07 14:13pm] | |
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3121 said: BorisFishpaw said: Outtakes, without a doubt.
I love hearing all the songs that never quite made it onto an album or b-side, and all the early and alternate incarnations of various songs. It's a shame that this part of the bootleg scene has pretty much dried up now. What do u attribute that to, Boris? what is so different now than back then to make such a huge change in the emergence of new outtakes? its so strange how its just dried up. When was the last known outtake? [Edited 4/29/07 14:13pm] my understanding is that Prince himself was responsible for much of what got out- as he used to freely give cassettes of stuff he was working on to various people. So- he stopped doing that. And got a better lock on the vault  Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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My fave types? Any that I can get my hands on. | |
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3121 said: BorisFishpaw said: Outtakes, without a doubt.
I love hearing all the songs that never quite made it onto an album or b-side, and all the early and alternate incarnations of various songs. It's a shame that this part of the bootleg scene has pretty much dried up now. What do u attribute that to, Boris? what is so different now than back then to make such a huge change in the emergence of new outtakes? its so strange how its just dried up. When was the last known outtake? 2 things... 1. Prince plugged the leaks in 1996, so there are pretty much no circulating unreleased tracks after this point. Paisley Park had a 'house cleaning' and the people who made 'security breaches' no longer work there. Also Prince is now independant, so all the early configurations and test sequences that used to do the rounds within WB no longer happen. 2. the internet made boots obsolete, nobody's gonna pay for a boot when they can download it for free, and by a knock-on effect, the people who do still have uncirculating tracks don't have any bootleg labels to sell them to anymore (and they're not inclined to just give them away on the most part). | |
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sexxydancer said: My fave types? Any that I can get my hands on.
 Me too.RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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BorisFishpaw said: 3121 said: What do u attribute that to, Boris? what is so different now than back then to make such a huge change in the emergence of new outtakes? its so strange how its just dried up. When was the last known outtake? 2 things... 1. Prince plugged the leaks in 1996, so there are pretty much no circulating unreleased tracks after this point. Paisley Park had a 'house cleaning' and the people who made 'security breaches' no longer work there. Also Prince is now independant, so all the early configurations and test sequences that used to do the rounds within WB no longer happen. 2. the internet made boots obsolete, nobody's gonna pay for a boot when they can download it for free, and by a knock-on effect, the people who do still have uncirculating tracks don't have any bootleg labels to sell them to anymore (and they're not inclined to just give them away on the most part). Ahh, Makes sense. Wonder if we will ever hear anything new again with regard to outtakes? | |
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Anx said: based on all this, i believe it's just fine to LISTEN to unreleased stuff. i think it's completely cool to TRADE and SHARE it. it's when money changes hands that it starts getting shady and ethicaly iffy, i think. fortunately, i think the coming of the internet has taken money out of bootleggers' hands and made the "catalog" of prince bootlegs available to anyone with a modem. i'm not sure what prince thinks of this, but i personally think it does him more good than harm. it just bolsters his legendary status as a creative whirlwind and an artist with more great work than he knows what to do with. bootlegs are a huge part of other artists' legacy - the grateful dead and bruce springsteen come to mind - and i think prince has become one of those artists over the past couple of decades. i think it helps him, whether he sees it that way or not. I agree. While I have some stuff in my collection- the only boot I ever paid for was my Black Album cassette. All else was traded, given to me or found for free online. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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hmm... i've only heard one song in rehearsal form.
outtakes are great but then you listen to an awesome show and realize how on fire he is when on stage. and i had never heard anything that was not officially released till a short while ago boots just weren't available in small town saskatchewan. i came across some in a store in the city once... just once in my whole life. i assumed they were legit lol (why wouldn't they be? lol they had prince's name on them ) and was going to buy a couple. the dude behind the counter put one on for me to listen to and i realized the sound was crap lol. so i have only ever traded for stuff. it's fun to get a parcel from across the world!   She couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay | |
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i never bought bootlegs... it seems so wrong. but i'd like to hear what goes on in concerts since ive never been 2 one.  "So shall it be written, so shall it be sung..."  | |
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tznekbsbfrvr said: i never bought bootlegs... it seems so wrong. but i'd like to hear what goes on in concerts since ive never been 2 one.
u dont know what your missing..and even Prince got bootlegs of his favorites so get with the program | |
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tznekbsbfrvr said: i never bought bootlegs... it seems so wrong. but i'd like to hear what goes on in concerts since ive never been 2 one.
You don't have to buy them, there are other ways to get them. | |
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jess555ja said: tznekbsbfrvr said: i never bought bootlegs... it seems so wrong. but i'd like to hear what goes on in concerts since ive never been 2 one.
You don't have to buy them, there are other ways to get them. I agree ! I haven´t purchased any in years ! | |
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I can enjoy all categories of Prince bootlegs with the same sense of gratification that comes from perusing a good commercial release.
My favorites are as follows: Live: Small Club, Second Show That Night - X Rekords 18 August 1988 Het Paard Van Troje, The Hague Inst Jam, DMSR, Just My Imagination, People Without, Housequake, Down Home Blues, Cold Sweat, Forever In My Life, Still Would Stand All Time, I'll Take You There, Rave Until The Joy Fantastic, It's Gonna Be A Beautiful Night Live - Honorable Mention: City Lights Box Set - Superhero Records Shows: Atlanta Omni, Atlanta 6 March 1980 New York / Paris The Ritz, New York 21 March 1981 La Palace, Paris 3 June 1981 Columbia / Saginaw Columbia 12 December 1981 Saginaw 4 February 1982 Detroit / ProvidenceMasonic Temple, Detroit 30 November 1982 Civic Center, Providence 10 February 1983 Atlanta 85 Omni, Atlanta 4 January 1985 Stockholm Stockholm 22 August 1986 Outtakes: The Work Vol. 1-5 Box Set - Thunderball Studio Outtakes 1976-2001 Honorable Mention - Outtakes/Released: The Complete Madhouse - Rude Dog Records Madhouse 8 Release: one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight Madhouse 16 Release: nine, ten. eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen Madhouse 24: 17 (penatration), 18 ( r u legal yet?), 19, 20 (Jailbait), 21-24 (dopamaine rush suite) New Power Madhouse: 17, rootie kazootie, space, guitar segue, asswoop, ethereal segue, parlor games, micheal segue, (got 2) give it up, sonny segue, 24? Remixes: six (end of the world), six 1/2, 10 (the perfect mix), (the Prefect) 10, 10 and 1/2, 13 (the paisley park mix) 13 1/4 Bonus Tracks: Miles Is Not Dead - Kamasutra (Remix) Rehearsals: Lovesexy Tour Rehearsals Vol.1 and 2 - Sabotage April-June, 1988: Disc #1 The payback Alphabet St. jam Glam slam Anna Stesia Discussion on missing sounds Anna Stesia The Cross Instrumental Head When you were mine Little red Corvette [intro.] Pop life Controversy Dirty mind Disc #2 Superfunkycalifragisexy Positivity Anna Stesia Glam slam Dance on When 2 R in love Lovesexy The Cross [end part] I wish U heaven Disc #3 Positivity Alphabet St. [end part] Little red Corvette Pop life Controversy Dirty mind Superfunkycalifragisexy Bob George [intro.] Controversy Dirty mind Superfunkycalifragisexy Bob George I wanna be your lover Head When you were mine Little red Corvette [intro.] Chain of fools / I don't want nobody to give me nothing / Money won't change you When you were mine Little red Corvette Pop life Controversy Dirty mind Superfunkycalifragisexy Bob George Anna Stesia Cross the line Disc #1 Escape / Erotic City Housequake Slow love Adore Delirious Jack U off / Twelve Sister Adore U got the look I wanna be your lover Head When you were mine Little red Corvette Pop life Controversy Dirty mind Superfunkycalifragisexy / Controversy Bob George Anna Stesia Interlude Disc #2 Interlude I no Alphabet St. Glam slam The Cross I wish U heaven Kiss Dance on When 2 R in love Let's go crazy When doves cry Purple rain 1999 Positivity Lovesexy 80s medley Chain of fools / It's gonna be a beautiful night Disc #3 I wanna be your lover Head Little red Corvette / D.M.S.R. Controversy Alphabet St. When 2 R in love outro. Glam slam I & II Soft and wet I wanna be your lover Kiss Dance on When 2 R in love Let's go crazy When doves cry Purple rain 1999 Lovesexy [various takes] Disc #4 Erotic City Housequake Slow love Adore Delirious Jack U off / Twelve Sister Adore U got the look I wanna be your lover Head When you were mine Little red Corvette Pop life Controversy Dirty mind Superfunkycalifragisexy / Controversy Bob George Interlude / Cross the line Feel U up jam The Cross I wish U heaven Honorable Mention - Rehearsals: Dirty Mind - Kicks Unreleased studio outtakes 1981-82 (tracks 1 - 5) Studio rehearsal 1985 (track 6)Vibrator talk #1, Vibrator talk #2, Vibrator[Vanity 6], Climax, Lisa, Billy's sunglasses Remixes: 12 Inches 2 A Yard - Down Low Remixes & B-Sides Sexy Dancer, Let's Work, Little Red Corvette, Let's Go Crazy, Erotic City, God, I Would Die 4 U, Another Lonely Christmas, She's Always In My Hair, Raspberry Beret, Girl, America, Pop Life Uk, Pop Life Us, Hello, Paisley Park, 4 The Tears In Your Eyes, Alexa De Paris, Kiss, Love Or Money, Mountains, Anotherloverholenyohead, La La La He He Hee, Shockadelica, U Got The Look, Housequake, Hot Thing, Alphabet St, Escape, Glam Slam, I Wish U Heaven, Scarlet Pussy, Partyman, Feel U Up, Gett Off, Pink Cashmere, Pope Honorable Mention - Remixes: Aloopisaloopisaloop - Evolsidog Unreleased DJ remixes Intro My name is Prince [muerto mix] NPG-TV Face down [Tora Tora's mix] The continental [bonus beats] Housequake [Shake n' quake mix] The good life [bigger city mix] Irresistible bitch [51 hour techno mix] It [reverse mix] Daddy pop [steady hoppin' mix] Erotic City [P-Funk mix] Lovesexy dancer Hide the bone [bone home mix] The daisy chain [nookie mix] What's my name [untitled edit] Undisputed [moneyapolis mack mix] Gett off [Violet's gangster groove] Outro Broadcast Television Appearances: NPG-TV Channel One through Four - Moonraker Broadcasts 1980 - 1987 interview with dick clark, party up (snl), i would die 4u, baby i'm a star, take me with u, accepts AMA awards, purple rain (ama), accepts bpi award, baby i'm a star (grammy awards), accepts academy award, america, presents ama award, accept charter membership mma, raspberry beret, delirious, contorversy, mutiny, sign o the times (mtv awards), play in the sunshine (mtv awards) Broadcasts 1989 - 1993 electric chair (snl), accewpts award (ama), diamonds and pearls, baby i'm a star, gett off (mtv music awards), let's go crazy, kiss, cream, purple rain, daddy pop, accepts award (soul train), sexy mf, love 2 the 9s, damn u, i wanna melt with u, the sacrifice of victor, my name is prince, morning papers, blue light, the max Broadcasts 1994 - 1996 Prologue, Most Beautiful Girl In The World (Mustang Mix)(Top Of The Pops), Accepts Award (WMA), Endorphine Machine (Canal+), Accepts Award (SAMA), Interactive / Endorphine Machine (Vh1), Accepts Award (Vh1), Love Sign, Peach, Dolphin, Accepts Award (AMA), Accepts Award (Britt), Billy Jack Bitch, Get Wild, Count The Days, Get Wild, Days Of Wild, The Ride, The Jam, Dinner With Delores, Dinner With Delores, Zannalee, Epilogue Paisley Park 12/11/96 (tracks 1 - 9) Oprah Winfrey Show 21/11/96 (tracks 10 - 12) The Today Show 3/1/97 (tracks 13 - 15) Rosie O' Donnell Show 7/1/97 (tracks 16 & 17) Chris Rock Show 7/2/97 (track 18) Brit Awards 25/2/97 (track 19) Top of the pops 26/2/97 (track 20) The NAACP image awards 27/2/97 (tracks 21 & 22) VH-1 honors 11/4/97 (tracks 23 - 25) [Edited 4/30/07 17:47pm] If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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