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Reply #30 posted 04/27/07 7:51pm

Graycap23

I don't know if u guys are funny or pathetic. Prince is a LOT of things, RACIST is NOT one of them.
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Reply #31 posted 04/27/07 8:24pm

christos7

Graycap23 said:

I don't know if u guys are funny or pathetic. Prince is a LOT of things, RACIST is NOT one of them.


Brainwashed.
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Reply #32 posted 04/28/07 3:03am

LeahFrancois

[b]Rainbow Children has some very excellent songs on them. They are great when you listen to them alone. But to sit and listen to the whole album....from the very first listen for me there was an uneasiness. I hadn't listened to it in years and then did a few mos. ago. The album does have a creepy feel to it but the individual songs are fantastic.
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Reply #33 posted 04/28/07 6:47am

Cloudbuster

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jtfolden said:

Cloudbuster said:

Yeah, it's a creepy affair.
And it leaves me feeling like I've had a door slammed in my face.
Horrid thing.



Exactly.


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Reply #34 posted 04/28/07 6:50am

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christos7 said:

Graycap23 said:

I don't know if u guys are funny or pathetic. Prince is a LOT of things, RACIST is NOT one of them.


Brainwashed.

Dont u know, only white people can be racist. duh!
Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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Reply #35 posted 04/28/07 7:34am

Graycap23

thepope2the9s said:

christos7 said:



Brainwashed.

Dont u know, only white people can be racist. duh!

Lol.....sad but true.
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Reply #36 posted 04/28/07 8:21am

Se7en

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I loved the CD upon first downloading it (it was a continuous-track download before it was released on CD). First listen, I loved it. Still feel that way.

I remember really "getting" it and feeling very impressed by Prince.

Even though I don't mind it, I do agree that the removal of the "Vader" voice would've made this album more acceptable to the mainstream.

BTW, I believe that TRC was intended to make listeners feel kinda uneasy and spark conversation.
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Reply #37 posted 04/28/07 12:22pm

savoirfaire

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Riverpoet31 said:

Yesterday i was listening to this album again, since a long long time.

I don't play it a lot, because i can't really stand the annoying 'darth vader' voice and the silly dogmatic lyrics.

But yesterday i felt that are other reasons too why i don't play TRC a lot.
While Lovesexy sounded like a, sometimes manic and over the top celebration of 'spirituality' it least sounded uplifting and positive.
TRC on the other hand sounds detached when it comes to Princes delivery: it sounds like he's 'singing' those lyrics and 'playing' the music, but his heart and soul don't sound to be 'there'.
Next to that the music itselve, with the use of weird eerie sound effects, and a the use of minor chords, sounds rather dark: instead of celebrating the message the lyrics 'preach' there is a sort of 'depressive' edge to the music.
Finally, the artwork of the CD booklet is borderline creepy, the portrayed bandmember have weird facial expressions and the drawings of Prince somehow seem more suitable for an album filled with 'satanic' lyrics...

These things combined (the deep narrative voice, the very dogmatic delivery, the detached sounding music, the lack of real passion in the delivery, the weird coverart' make The Rainbow Children a very uneasy album to listen to.

I could be prejudiced, but the general impression this album gives me is something that others have stated before: After the period where he lost his baby, both his parents and he divorced Mayte, he walked into Larry Graham, who told him about the Jehovah Witness movement, and Prince probably 'used' the messages of the JW probably as a sort of relief for his sorrow and grief. But alltough he converted to being a JW, it seems like his heart and soul are not really into it.
I mean: on both musicology and 3121 you can catch glimpses of the 'old' Prince popping up: the more carnal, passionate Prince. IMO that is an important part of his personality.
On TRC he sounds like he has hidden that part of his personality away, blinding himselve with religious dogmatics, but on the same time you can hear he is not completely happy with it.

In short: on The Rainbow Children Prince sounds as a person repressing himselve, and therefore this album gives such an uneasy feeling.


I am not a spiritual person in the slightest, and I don't really like the message of the album, but I disagree with you completely about it sounding like his heart isn't into it. I think the album is actually one of his most inspired albums of his entire catalogue, for better or worse. And while I enjoy 3121, I think it sounds way more 'old hat' than TRC, and is therefore, less interesting to me and less important a part of my collection.
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Reply #38 posted 04/28/07 1:03pm

Se7en

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savoirfaire said:

Riverpoet31 said:

Yesterday i was listening to this album again, since a long long time.

I don't play it a lot, because i can't really stand the annoying 'darth vader' voice and the silly dogmatic lyrics.

But yesterday i felt that are other reasons too why i don't play TRC a lot.
While Lovesexy sounded like a, sometimes manic and over the top celebration of 'spirituality' it least sounded uplifting and positive.
TRC on the other hand sounds detached when it comes to Princes delivery: it sounds like he's 'singing' those lyrics and 'playing' the music, but his heart and soul don't sound to be 'there'.
Next to that the music itselve, with the use of weird eerie sound effects, and a the use of minor chords, sounds rather dark: instead of celebrating the message the lyrics 'preach' there is a sort of 'depressive' edge to the music.
Finally, the artwork of the CD booklet is borderline creepy, the portrayed bandmember have weird facial expressions and the drawings of Prince somehow seem more suitable for an album filled with 'satanic' lyrics...

These things combined (the deep narrative voice, the very dogmatic delivery, the detached sounding music, the lack of real passion in the delivery, the weird coverart' make The Rainbow Children a very uneasy album to listen to.

I could be prejudiced, but the general impression this album gives me is something that others have stated before: After the period where he lost his baby, both his parents and he divorced Mayte, he walked into Larry Graham, who told him about the Jehovah Witness movement, and Prince probably 'used' the messages of the JW probably as a sort of relief for his sorrow and grief. But alltough he converted to being a JW, it seems like his heart and soul are not really into it.
I mean: on both musicology and 3121 you can catch glimpses of the 'old' Prince popping up: the more carnal, passionate Prince. IMO that is an important part of his personality.
On TRC he sounds like he has hidden that part of his personality away, blinding himselve with religious dogmatics, but on the same time you can hear he is not completely happy with it.

In short: on The Rainbow Children Prince sounds as a person repressing himselve, and therefore this album gives such an uneasy feeling.


I am not a spiritual person in the slightest, and I don't really like the message of the album, but I disagree with you completely about it sounding like his heart isn't into it. I think the album is actually one of his most inspired albums of his entire catalogue, for better or worse. And while I enjoy 3121, I think it sounds way more 'old hat' than TRC, and is therefore, less interesting to me and less important a part of my collection.


I agree - love it or hate it, TRC is one of his most inspired albums ever. He created TRC knowing that it was not going to be a big seller ... he had something to say and wanted to share it with fans. I respect that.

The way most of the songs were performed live shows me that he was very proud of that material.
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Reply #39 posted 04/28/07 3:40pm

Tom

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The album is nearly 7 years old now.
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Reply #40 posted 04/29/07 9:11am

luvsexy4all

Graycap23 said:

thepope2the9s said:


Dont u know, only white people can be racist. duh!

Lol.....sad but true.



gray.. dont make people lose respect for you with comments like this
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Reply #41 posted 04/29/07 11:29am

savoirfaire

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Tom said:

The album is nearly 7 years old now.

eek eek

yeah!! crazy how time flies !!!
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Reply #42 posted 04/29/07 11:44am

Graycap23

luvsexy4all said:

Graycap23 said:


Lol.....sad but true.



gray.. dont make people lose respect for you with comments like this

I'm being as sarcastic as the original poster.....
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Reply #43 posted 04/29/07 11:58am

Ifsixwuz9

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Riverpoet31 said:

Yesterday i was listening to this album again, since a long long time.

I don't play it a lot, because i can't really stand the annoying 'darth vader' voice and the silly dogmatic lyrics.

But yesterday i felt that are other reasons too why i don't play TRC a lot.
While Lovesexy sounded like a, sometimes manic and over the top celebration of 'spirituality' it least sounded uplifting and positive.
TRC on the other hand sounds detached when it comes to Princes delivery: it sounds like he's 'singing' those lyrics and 'playing' the music, but his heart and soul don't sound to be 'there'.
Next to that the music itselve, with the use of weird eerie sound effects, and a the use of minor chords, sounds rather dark: instead of celebrating the message the lyrics 'preach' there is a sort of 'depressive' edge to the music.
Finally, the artwork of the CD booklet is borderline creepy, the portrayed bandmember have weird facial expressions and the drawings of Prince somehow seem more suitable for an album filled with 'satanic' lyrics...

These things combined (the deep narrative voice, the very dogmatic delivery, the detached sounding music, the lack of real passion in the delivery, the weird coverart' make The Rainbow Children a very uneasy album to listen to.

I could be prejudiced, but the general impression this album gives me is something that others have stated before: After the period where he lost his baby, both his parents and he divorced Mayte, he walked into Larry Graham, who told him about the Jehovah Witness movement, and Prince probably 'used' the messages of the JW probably as a sort of relief for his sorrow and grief. But alltough he converted to being a JW, it seems like his heart and soul are not really into it.
I mean: on both musicology and 3121 you can catch glimpses of the 'old' Prince popping up: the more carnal, passionate Prince. IMO that is an important part of his personality.
On TRC he sounds like he has hidden that part of his personality away, blinding himselve with religious dogmatics, but on the same time you can hear he is not completely happy with it.

In short: on The Rainbow Children Prince sounds as a person repressing himselve, and therefore this album gives such an uneasy feeling.



No.

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