Um, I'm pretty sure he IS a JW, he has said straight-up that he thinks the New World Translation is the Truth and we should all go to Kingdom Hall and see for ourselves.

As far as "we would not be freaking out if he were a Catholic". I would be. I think the JWs' beliefs are much much much more reasonable than the Catholics' beliefs. But both are based on the supposed truth of the bible, which I don't believe to be the case. I hear enough about Christianity just by living in this culture, I don't care to hear it in my music, so I'd rather that Prince not make music about Christian religious beliefs. Of course, this is my own selfish preference and I don't actually think that he should give a flying fuck what I think. But it is still my preference.

I think he'll grow out of it all and be happier for it. *crossing fingers*

Doves,
Mel!ssa

I am pretty sure Prince is a JW because at the Celebration he said the name of God is Jehovah. I am wondering if he just recently became a JW or has been one for some time,because back in mid nineties I was at Glam Slam where he was to receive an award. Instead of him accepting an award some guy dressed in a long white robe like Prince had on at the Celebration accepted it for him and said my brother thanks you. Actually at the time I thought the guy looked like a Muslim.

Tom said:

HOLD ON! THIS MAY HAVE BEEN COVERED B4 BUT PRINCE HAS A TATTOO ABOVE HIS RIGHT EAR!

Listen I'm sick of the Catholics going against Prince cause he's a Jehovah and I'm sick of the Jews saying he's anti semetic cause it's crap. Prince isn't a racist he's an artist and he Creates and he also likes to push our buttons to get a reaction to his work . If you can't see that then you are Stupid! Prince is wonderful and Smart like a Fox.
[This message was edited Thu Sep 19 1:54:17 PDT 2002 by Natasha]

JAMIESTARR said:

But of course. There has to be SOMETHING to complain about in Princeland.

I hope he's always a Dirty Man. And he'll Never be Old not Ever.

Prince is happy now, he has grown, he has been through a lot. A lot of people do not like his choice of "religion". But a lot of people respect his right to believe and live his life as he sees fit, it's his life.

I have talked to many Catholics/Protestants/Baptists, etc. who tell me their priests and members of their churches talk down about Jehovah's Witnesses and tell them never to talk to us. There was this one Catholic lady (among many others) that I know, in particular who was curious about us and decided to see for herself what we were all about. Witnesses came to her door many times, she listened. She decided to study, attend meetings. She studied on her own to make sure everything she was learning she understood even more fully. She wanted to find out if this was the truth. She has been a Witness now for 16 years and still going strong. It's really each to their own but when Prince says to "go see for yourself" he means just that.

A lot of people think we are the worst people in the world (although we are no part of the world) and they do not like our bible based teachings. These people who have never even taken the time to listen or "see for themselves" are really missing out on what is real. They listen to all the negative things, the stories, the lies, the hatred and form their own negative opinions or they do not know how to form an opinion, so they just jump on the band wagon taking sides with opposers and apostates. That is the sad part, they never get to know us, they never get to know Jehovah.

With Prince being one of Jehovah's Witnesses it's different because he is an entertainer, he will not please ALL fans with this decision he made a while ago and he knows that. On this website his decision has been picked on and torn apart by so many (for those of you who viewed these things before the new rules came out) and of course there will always be jabs here and there about it even still. **Please remember that there are Jehovah's Witnesses that participate on this discussion board also**

He gets no support from a lot of fans (but there are those who support him or at least are not opposed) because they have pre-existing opinions about Jehovah's Witnesses but see, no matter what that opinion is, it is his life. Of course people who do not agree with it want him to change and go back to his old lifestyle, the one they are familiar with and love him for, the old Princey. Listen, times have changed and people will have to learn how to get over the fact that unless he wants to go back to that old life style, his choices will not be the choices you would like to hand out to him.

When a person believes in having a strong relationship with our creator, acts upon it, maintains it and wishes to worship him in "spirit and truth" you will see a big difference because that person is now "putting on the new personality", his/her main concern is pleasing God not humans. No matter what your beliefs are, whether you believe in God or not. You have that right. Will Prince ever get wild and free again? If you mean by playing music with sexually explicit lyric and being as nasty on stage or off as he wants to be, NO, not as long as he is a practicing Christian, worshipping God in "spirit and truth". Will we still keep getting great music from him? Of course!
[This message was edited Thu Sep 19 4:52:44 PDT 2002 by SisterGirl]

I understand that Prince has "grown" and "been through alot" and all that,but I still miss the dirty days...lol...As someone who is not involved in any organized religion,I personally relate more to the "old Prince" with his free-spirited and free-thinking attitude back then.But that's just me.

When you really think about,Prince is following the same path that many rock and roll stars follow.In their early years,they live the crazy rock star lifestyle (beautiful women,sex-filled lyrics,etc) then they finally "see the light",settle down and become religious.How many times have we seen this same scenario on a Behind The Music episode?

DavidEye said:

We see it with a lot of stars I am thinking particularly of Vanity (Denise Matthews) right now, remember how she was back in the day? With her Nasty Girl ways but now she has turned to Jesus and did a complete turn around!
[This message was edited Thu Sep 19 5:09:37 PDT 2002 by SisterGirl]

Yes,And I for one am willing to listen to the JWs with an open mind. I do believe that there is nothing wrong with Cursing everybody does it at one time or another. If Prince so decides he doesn't wanna curse that's cool with me. Should he say it's wrong for his fans to curse ? He can but whether we listen or not is another story. He can only say this is what I'm doing and if you wish to follow feel free to. Everybody is Unique and we can't force anybody to stop or start doing things this way or that way. I really can't understand why fans would stop listening to Prince because he is into the JWs or into Religion at all. I do not think he is wrong. I think the Catholics or the Jews or the Protestants or the Fundamentalists are Wrong and Quite Crazy. There is nothing Wrong with Prince,Larry,Tina or anybody and certainly not about Religion. I feel if Prince is Happy above and foremost than I stand behind him 100%. Not everybody can be a Vegatarian because of Health reasons does this make them bad? No. I was Upset dealing with fans who have no religion in their lives. They were down on everything and everybody. I was Shocked at people who called themselves Satanists and Atheists and still listen to Prince. The only thing I do think it sounds stupid using different words in songs that were explicit and I really miss his sexy clothes and strut and I do miss the Dancing. I really would Never want him to go back to a Bad Lifestyle and would hope always that he could Separate the 2. Meaning why can't he still be Wild Prince with a Healthy Lifestyle? I know he Can. And he is. But he shouldn't change what was Prince. What we all knew. What was great and the songs were Great as they were originally penned. He shouldn't clean them up or re-release them. He should leave them alone cause you shouldn't ruin great songs. Prince will Always be Wonderful. I could never Imagine not being a Fan and I don't know how anybody can.

David I just have to say this but it sounds like you are some sort of Pervert. Prince going back to the Dirty Days Denise going back leave them alone you know what ?What are you doing with your life peddling Porn or reading Porn? What's up with that? If Prince or Denise wanna stay Religious leave them alone. You are the one with the problem of living in the past not them. Denise will Never be Nasty again cause of her former Life and her Reckless drug Use that almost killed her. She is better now,but she could sing and do movies that are Religious. I think she'll never live down her former Nasty Girl Reputation or being in Playboy. Prince yes,we love the Lovesexy and early stuff. Dreams of Darling Nikki and Vibrators,but we are talking 1984-1985. Would we rather listen to Old Prince music or new Prince music? I vote on the New stuff and you know what? I say Prince release that old stuff now and then just do all the New stuff that you can create. Prince is so above that low-class lifestyle. Prince is all about Class! I just can't understand why his stuff didn't sell better and I never will. I will always blame the fact that the American Public were Brainwashed by the Media and that they Never heard about anything Good that Prince did and they just Couldn't get Over his Clothing and his Eccentricities. They Slaughtered him for being Shy and Quiet and not being Forthcoming with them. He was always a Minnesotian not a N.Y.er or a Californian. He was Never Aggressive and they saw it as WEAKNESS! He is not Weak! People totally suck on the subject of Prince and I do not even spend a moment with them if they aren't Open to his music. Call me a Fanatic. I don't Care. He's Great and everybody should KNOW IT!

Natasha said:

Calm down sweetie!! I think you missed my point.I'm not saying that I WANT Prince to go back to that era.I'm simply saying that *I* relate more to the person he was back then.I don't need for him to "get nasty again" because I already have the old albums to enjoy and I have my memories of that era and those songs.Why do you consider me a "pervert" for liking that part of Prince's past?

Natasha said:

Uh...aren't you forgetting that,in 1984,Prince was the hottest star on the planet? You're complaining that the public "couldn't get over his clothing and his eccentricities" but in the 80s,they did exactly that! He was "weird" back then and still sold alot of records.

"Call me a fanatic.I don't care"

I must admit,you defend Prince like nobody else on this site.At the end of the year,you're definitely gonna win the "Biggest Fanatic Award"

Thanks David . I think you are pretty Swell.

Natasha said:

Prince has grown beyond that. It's time for his adult fans to grow beyond it too.

supernova..you could not have said it better..
if you look at the "old time" Prince, he was more preachy in those days than he was now (see God, 4 the tears in your eyes, Lovesexy, Purple Rain, The Ladder, Temptation,Graffitti Bridge, etc.) in those days he was searching..and now that he was found a foundation to stand firm on..his so called "fams" are not happy for him...
i have been into Prince since seeing him in '79 on AB throughout the years I have matured and witnessed the maturity in Prince...now that I am wiser, i don't find myself doing things that i used to..and let's be real would we REALLY want to hear a 44 year old man singing "i sincerely want to @#$^ the taste out of your mouth"...let's be real!!!

motherafrica said:

It would be pretty darn pathetic. And subsequently his fans would complain about that, proving he can't win no matter what.

To me, Prince will always be Prince no matter what he says or does.

Let him do what he wants. It's gotten him this far. AS criticized as he is, and as many times as he's been pronounced "dead", I should live to realize half of what he's accomplished. Back away from the guy, and for the love of God, at least back away from his personal life.

And we wonder why he's so private.

If you want things served up the way they were 20 years ago, there a hundreds of "classic rock" radio stations and TV Land/Nick at Nite type programs to keep you going. I don't even listen to Purple Rain anymore, not because I don't like it, but for the same reason I don't spin Led Zeppelin 4 either.

Some of you people are amazing. You'll redicule a band like The Rolling Stones for milking the same, tired formula and beg them to give it up, then lambast Prince, U2 or Beck for changing as they grow and continuing to explore new hoirizons. And here's a news flash: none of them care what you think. If they did, they never would've gotten to where they are. They're persuing their visions and their interests. We should do the same, whether that includes appreciating the newer material or not.

I'm tired of reading "Prince should do this", or "how could he do that", not that I'm against a constructive criticism, idea or suggestion, as long as it has more substance than "please sing about fucking some more and curse like you used to". Perhaps you could write your own songs, build your own recording studio and embark on a musical career that will go down in history...

Lilith said:

I have 'em 2 well...I was in2 J.W. until i was born and when i got legal i left 'em...In Italy the police is controling 'em 4 their psychological violence and becuz some J.W suicided...They arent so good, believe me infact when i told 2 my satanist brothas what i passed with 'em they got scared...

Prince is free 2 do what he wants ...[/quote]

Melody said:

herbthe4 said:

Co-sign.

herbthe4 said:

SensualMelody said:

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..and another thing..when did Prince say that anyone who listens to his music should believe what he believes and become a witness?..If ANYONE has this info...rise up!!!

Savannah said:

"The bible is the only book she reads, shes a peach.." ?? ((What the fuck is that crap??))

My point was that (starting with "TheChrist) he entered this lyrical "MUMBLEY JOE" (short 4 Jehovah) phase. He starts wiping his bible clutching ass and making classic lines sound like a bad karaoke night. I'll give him about two more years of healing before the Wild and Free kicks in. Hmmm.. Prince in Mid-life crisis.. man thats gonna be funny.

What is your point everyone?

wow. such a great debate, natasha style. GO NATASHA, GO