Well, simple question--any religious types in here? Or have any woman been offended by a lyric he did that they thought was sexist of degrading?

I get offended when he changes the lyrics to old songs to fit his current beliefes.

The Cross/The christ.

When he sings "23 scriptures in a one night stand" on the Rave2000 DVD.

Etc.

Oh, that is offensive. Bible shucking sucka.

i haven't but my Mother was when she heard that line on 'girl' extended version.

you know "pshhht, your a** is so tight"

i was only a teen at the time, she nearly blew a fuse!

"THAT'S DISGUSTING! PRINCE IS A PERVERT!" that's all i remember her saying, it was my first listen so it took me by suprise a bit.

Yes...When he backward masked "motherfucker" in the live version of Rebirth of the Flesh.

"Be glad that you are free": this really annoyed me at the time of release and still does so.

BoySimon said:

Annoyed is not the word you are after is it. These lyrics offended me, especially after the BS of Ronnie Talk to Russia.

All the names in Family Name that are quoted are Jewish.

Graffiti Bridge.

The Christ.

"Flying upon the wings of the New Translation": do the sufferers of Jehovah realise they cowtow to a religion that only has space in their heaven for 144,000 souls, no more, no less. The others go where? He once said "God is inside all of us, he just wants to come out to play"...which ones does he want to play with now Prince? ... that's really offensive.

The entire lyrical content of Jughead and Arms Of Orion really annoyed AND offended the bloody hell outta me. Along with "My Name Is Prince"...
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Extra-Loveable...

BoySimon said:

FYI, the others are supposedly resurrected to eternal life in paradise on Earth.

TheEnglishGent said:

"in paradise on Earth"

'Kay, so, like, in paradise that is not heaven? Like, in paradise that is a dead and dying planet? Like, in paradise on the planet where they've spent their entire lives?

Phew! LET ME IN! OH PLEASE!

Good God. At least the Catholics have a heaven with a bit of Liberace. For funs sake. Was this a FYI in an "Oh you should know this", an actual FYI or a sarcastic FYI...purleassse let it be sarcastic otherwise you are condemned to live your life on THIS earth forever AND believe it's paradise...your god is laughing behind his hand.

Boysimon said


why are you (and anyone else for that matter) so insulted and defensive when it comes to someone elses beliefs? this is not meant to be a personal attack...just a question. peace.

2freaky4church1 said:

Yes - absolutely. I wish there were instrumental only versions to some of the songs.

Yeah, his calling Abraham Lincoln a racist. I'm still waiting to hear all about this one. NPGMC put up a quote once, but no source. Give me sources please. Thanks.

"...displaced by the white jail-bait" -muse 2 the pharoh


that is fucking racist bullshit...

Never...until he started the self-censoring of his older work.
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HELL NO. prince is the only singer that can SWEAR and send shivers up my spine. HE sounds SEXY swearing. he sounds sexy NOT swearing too!

2freaky4church1 said:

Bambi, but forunately he came back on this in Annastecia. I really didn't like him starting to play this on the Nude tour though as soon as Lois Lane joined it. (one of the leadsingers is a (very good looking) lesbian).

Big Tall Wall, locking up your woman???

I really don't like a lot of the lyrcs on TRC but the problem with this album is that the music is so great...

Finally, I think Ronnie Talk to Russia and Free are far too one-sided and lack all self-reflection. He made up for it in 'America' though which was, strangely enough, labelled patriotic, which it is clearly not...

Eelco

I thought "Big Tall Wall" was about her putting up a wall in their relationship? Not about him locking her up.

No. I just wish he would not Assume things about one without knowing them cause that is bias on his part.

Jasziah said:

Not too familiar with ol' Abe, are ya?...

"Papa" really turned the heat on when I first heard it.

Then again I think it's just the topic of child abuse that offends me !

pandemonium said:

Hmm i 2 cringe when i hear that song ... not because of Prince's assert with the topic but the topic itself ... abuse is an inhumane action of detriment I also must say P’s push with religion & racial beliefs ... well it all brushes me different ways ... not 4 the good or the bad ... I love that he is a pillar of opinion. I just have 2 stop and think more often when it comes 2 his music ... which is moreso rewarding (in the long run) ... but sometimes my thinking becomes 2 rock solid (non shakable) and that lures my mind away from the enjoyment of the melody; the physical component of the song. Which ironically means that I dont get the whole effect (& that Prince is a clever pistol hehe ... u never know when where & how hes gonna hit yah!) But that is partly my fault now isnt it .. lol ... u know what they say ... music ... ‘its a blessing and a curse.”

Aww hell ... I always admired the fact that P’s songs were like filters of his mind ... no matter what the message ... things remain open ... so many outlets ... so MUCH time


u gotta fight 4 ur right 2 eeeddiiittt ... (stupid yes but the song is stuck in my head)
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Some of the lyrics on TRC are offensive, but I think they are meant to be.

I was also offended when I heard him say God Bless Canada on the One Mo Jam cd.
Not that it's not a good thing to Bless Canada.
But, I have never heard him say anything about the victims of 9-11 and has he ever said God Bless America at one of his shows? He has lived in the US all his life and is an American citizen. (Not to mention a rich one.)

Thecherryloon said:

as 4 me: it's sorta hard 2 offend me...so .

Jasziah said:

_____
Echo says.....
"Forced Into Glory", By Lerone Bennett, Jr.

how do I know, I asked them!

for PEACE
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Another good book to read is:

"The Forgotten Cause of the Civil War"

Lawrence Tenzer

It depends whether you believe that music is meant to just entertain ... or to entertain AND make you think.

Genuine artistic expression will often be shocking.

BoySimon said:

The FYI wasn't meant to be sarcastic or anything, I was just trying to point to a statement of fact about what the JW's believe, sorry if it offended.

The whole paradise on earth thing is what the JW's believe. the idea being that after armageddon, when all evil is wiped out, then all those who followed their beliefs will be resurrected. They believe that god is the all powerfull being and so the idea that he can restore the earth to a paradise is not far fetched. What you are left with is a healthy planet full of people worshipping god and living forever with peace and love according to his law. Is that not effectively heaven?

These aren't my beliefs but I did look into more than one religion while I was doing some searching, so I do know a bit about what I am posting here.

TheEnglishGent said:

Cool. The thing is Prince used to be inclusive in his spirituality. His is not any longer...or rather, if he is a true JW the he cannot be inclusive of those who are non-believers. This is a sad state of affairs and one that I wish he would change. Me, I'm not really religious, but the notion that you can have a faith system that precludes love for all, or love4oneanother - to put it another way, strikes me as a poor religion and one that should be poked with a big stick. As a consequence this offends me.