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Reply #30 posted 04/10/07 12:12pm

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theodore said:

The Word is so fetch! neutral


And I thought I was the only person who said that... haha

It's totally fetch.

A lot of people say 3121 'ain't the greatest'. I know it ain't the greatest, but it's not a complete washout.

The Word is definitely one of the album's best written, as adorable said, it's production is very clear & crisp... I see that quality in 'Money Don't Matter 2night'... a good, clear & crisp Prince song is definitely a good one.

But I've found that the song sounds better while listening thru the album than on its own... for some reason, it just doesnt work the same way. It doesn't come off as brilliant on its own than it does in its "home".
3121 is kinda like a journey of experimentation, trying out new modern sound techniques, but slowly seeping back into the familiar.
Get on the Boat sounds like it could be Musicology material based on its use of instruments, but it's also new & fresh compared to Musicology's material. The Dance is sophisicated like 'Money' & 'Diamonds and Pearls' in its musical arrangement... there's a slow progresion thru it like 'Money'... but there's a wonderful use of balance. All of the instruments used in it make it work and sound beautifully.

The Word has a nice mix of instruments that create a sophisticated atmosphere. It has a slow progression throughout and the transition from one "scene" to another is great, nice and smooth. Prince was definitely in his element or "in the zone" when he wrote it.



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Reply #31 posted 04/10/07 12:26pm

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Like I said, I do not dislike it, it aint even the worst on the album, but I don't get all the hype, people saying it's the best track he's done in years, that kind of talk. just don't, sorry. Just wondered if I was the only one.
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Reply #32 posted 04/10/07 12:27pm

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I really like The Word. One of the best songs on the album, and one of the best things I've heard from him in a while.


That's one of the most common things I've heard about it.

When I wrote my review of 3121 after my first listen, I don't think I noticed it too much. I think people's comments on it influenced me, but regardless, it's a really good song.



I know what you mean. I know you haven't been a fan long enough to remember, but I actually wrote the world's first review of 3121 after I was invited to the listening party about 6 weeks before the album dropped. If you google the phrase "I was there. Here's my review" - you will find it, since the search function here isn't working!

Anyway I basically wrote that I didn't remember much about it afterwards, but I liked it. It then grew on me a lot and became one of my favorites on the album. It's definately a low-key grower of a song.
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Reply #33 posted 04/10/07 12:46pm

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Militant said:


I know what you mean. I know you haven't been a fan long enough to remember, but I actually wrote the world's first review of 3121 after I was invited to the listening party about 6 weeks before the album dropped. If you google the phrase "I was there. Here's my review" - you will find it, since the search function here isn't working!
Anyway I basically wrote that I didn't remember much about it afterwards, but I liked it. It then grew on me a lot and became one of my favorites on the album. It's definately a low-key grower of a song.


Nice review.

That was the way I felt about the album at first listen. Actually, I think it did blow me away, just because it was more grounded and I felt like I could relate to it more just becuz the person behind it was the Prince I knew b4 I dove into his world.
Compared to his other material, it kind of falls under the radar. It's not excellent, but it's a little above decent.
The Word didn't stand out the first time... but then again, I can't catch everything on the first shot. It was just hidden, waiting in the wings for me to discover the clean-cut production of it. It definitely sounds better with the whole because it gives me a break from the modern sound of the album, at least early on.

The Dance didn't stand out for me on the first time around either, but after giving it, I see it as beautiful. It is "The Beautiful Ones"-esque towards the end when he's all dramatic and stuff.
hmmm I was thinking how "A Million Days" was like "The Beautiful Ones" with a little less drama, maybe "The Dance" fits into this scheme of things too.

I think, as far as the album itself goes, I'll need to spend more time with it to figure out what it all means, what the central concept is. I think I've listened 2 it least of my 4 albums... but sometimes, it isnt the easiest thing to get into.
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Reply #34 posted 04/10/07 12:48pm

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It is one of the few decent things on that shitty album of half masticated turds. Your newbie slip is showing.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #35 posted 04/10/07 12:50pm

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NUTS! this song is awesome!!
"Paisley Park is in your Heart"
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Reply #36 posted 04/10/07 2:24pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

It is one of the few decent things on that shitty album of half masticated turds. Your newbie slip is showing.




Who knew there such thing as a crochety old fan slip? 3121 rocks---sorry that you don't like it.
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Reply #37 posted 04/10/07 2:35pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

It is one of the few decent things on that shitty album of half masticated turds. Your newbie slip is showing.


are you implying i am any sort of newbie??
you are VERY wrong, if that is the case. I kind of agree about the album in general, not bad, but certainly not great.
Anyone would have thought I suggested The Word was 'masticated turds' from some of the responses.
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Reply #38 posted 04/10/07 2:47pm

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bonedaddy said:

2freaky4church1 said:

It is one of the few decent things on that shitty album of half masticated turds. Your newbie slip is showing.


are you implying i am any sort of newbie??
you are VERY wrong, if that is the case. I kind of agree about the album in general, not bad, but certainly not great.


I thought that comment was directed at me. haha
But it shouldn't really be a secret to anybody here... I've only been on this road as a loyal follower of Prince 4 a little over 2 months.

But that is true about the album. It's good, but not extraordinary.
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Reply #39 posted 04/10/07 3:01pm

Illustrator

I would have Worded it mediacore, myself.
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Reply #40 posted 04/10/07 3:42pm

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bonedaddy said:



are you implying i am any sort of newbie??
you are VERY wrong, if that is the case. I kind of agree about the album in general, not bad, but certainly not great.


I thought that comment was directed at me. haha
But it shouldn't really be a secret to anybody here... I've only been on this road as a loyal follower of Prince 4 a little over 2 months.

But that is true about the album. It's good, but not extraordinary.


lol maybe! don't know. maybe i'm paranoid!
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Reply #41 posted 04/11/07 12:34am

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"The Word" is my favorite song on "3121". It is even my cell ring! It
actually makes me think Prince is really saved!{JW and all} I happen to
think [as a Christian] he brought it all on the lyrics and laid it down
in a way that everyone could "Get It"!
Wake up!......Wake up!
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Reply #42 posted 04/11/07 10:28pm

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Reply #43 posted 04/12/07 3:01am

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Illustrator said:

I would have Worded it mediacore, myself.


WTF is "mediacore"??? Hehe! wink
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Reply #44 posted 04/12/07 3:25am

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The Word aint the worst song on 3121
Incense and Candles is.

Flawed album. Its one I recon I will love in years to come. Just not right now.

To me, it feels like 3121 was written with a big audiance in mind and catered therfore for that audiance. I think the songwriting is very self concious and nervous. Unlike something like The Rainbow Children, an album that dispalys a Prince with his hair down and enjoying himself. I concider that album to be his last masterpiece.
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Reply #45 posted 04/12/07 4:21am

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I love it. The only thing I don't like is "spiders" in the chorus, wish he'd come up w/ something gentler on the ear shrug
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #46 posted 04/12/07 4:33am

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I like it too cool
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Reply #47 posted 04/12/07 6:13am

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darlingomo said:

The Word aint the worst song on 3121
Incense and Candles is.

Flawed album. Its one I recon I will love in years to come. Just not right now.

To me, it feels like 3121 was written with a big audiance in mind and catered therfore for that audiance. I think the songwriting is very self concious and nervous. Unlike something like The Rainbow Children, an album that dispalys a Prince with his hair down and enjoying himself. I concider that album to be his last masterpiece.

Know way man...jmo I fallinluv I&C and The Word
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Reply #48 posted 04/12/07 6:14am

christos7

I don't think Ive listened 2 3121 in at least 6 mnths.
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Reply #49 posted 04/12/07 6:17am

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babooshleeky said:

darlingomo said:

The Word aint the worst song on 3121
Incense and Candles is.

Flawed album. Its one I recon I will love in years to come. Just not right now.

To me, it feels like 3121 was written with a big audiance in mind and catered therfore for that audiance. I think the songwriting is very self concious and nervous. Unlike something like The Rainbow Children, an album that dispalys a Prince with his hair down and enjoying himself. I concider that album to be his last masterpiece.

Know way man...jmo I fallinluv I&C and The Word


Agreed.
The Word stands out from the other tracks on the album simply cuz there's nothing else like it. It's very special and I've got a feeling that it's also one of most cryptic tracks (if not the most) on there. I think I got a little glimpse of the message behind it yesterday. Somehow, it just sounds so much better when I hit while listening thru the album rather than alone.
I wouldn't say there's a worst song on the album, but Satisfied is one I don't get into very much (I did for the first time last night... that was a little weird).
And there's something I like about 'Incense & Candles'... I like to label it "seductive" cuz you know how irresistible his Greatness can be when he talks like that.

I don't know about the self-conscious/nervous songwriting you're talking about... I mean, Prince is never any of those things.
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Reply #50 posted 04/12/07 6:22am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

babooshleeky said:


Know way man...jmo I fallinluv I&C and The Word


Agreed.
The Word stands out from the other tracks on the album simply cuz there's nothing else like it. It's very special and I've got a feeling that it's also one of most cryptic tracks (if not the most) on there. I think I got a little glimpse of the message behind it yesterday. Somehow, it just sounds so much better when I hit while listening thru the album rather than alone.
I wouldn't say there's a worst song on the album, but Satisfied is one I don't get into very much (I did for the first time last night... that was a little weird).
And there's something I like about 'Incense & Candles'... I like to label it "seductive" cuz you know how irresistible his Greatness can be when he talks like that.
I don't know about the self-conscious/nervous songwriting you're talking about... I mean, Prince is never any of those things.


Ain't that the truth! That song is like strawberries and whipped cream with chocolate dip and oysters(if anyone actually eats those to get in the mood)imo I'd rather have the fruit.....beautiful songs, both of them!
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Reply #51 posted 04/12/07 7:54am

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the best on 3121-and there aint many
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Reply #52 posted 04/12/07 9:28am

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I don't know about the self-conscious/nervous songwriting you're talking about... I mean, Prince is never any of those things.


Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but was'nt 3121 his first major release in a long time. With a major label I mean... Maybe I feel too much for the guy, but I certainly got the impression that the pressure was on not as much as a songwriter, but certainly for sales. Thats gotta effect your songwriting, or at least the selection process...

I mean, in my part of the world (Ireland) it was the first time I had seen Prince posters in the windows of wekka stow's in many, many years. It was billed as a "comeback" of sorts... and I just felt the record was tainted because of that.

Its still a belter of an album. But The Word is weak (He has done much better). And as for Insence and Flowers, he should never put a vocoder on his vocals ever ever again. It's gimmicky and it does'nt suit him. Its awful.
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Reply #53 posted 04/12/07 9:53am

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theodore said:

The Word is so fetch! neutral



"Quit trying to make fetch happen!!"















falloff


j/k Sweetie! hug


As for The Word, I like it. I don't skip it when it comes on.

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Reply #54 posted 04/12/07 10:39am

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darlingomo said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:


I don't know about the self-conscious/nervous songwriting you're talking about... I mean, Prince is never any of those things.


Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but was'nt 3121 his first major release in a long time. With a major label I mean... Maybe I feel too much for the guy, but I certainly got the impression that the pressure was on not as much as a songwriter, but certainly for sales. Thats gotta effect your songwriting, or at least the selection process...

I mean, in my part of the world (Ireland) it was the first time I had seen Prince posters in the windows of wekka stow's in many, many years. It was billed as a "comeback" of sorts... and I just felt the record was tainted because of that.

Its still a belter of an album. But The Word is weak (He has done much better). And as for Insence and Flowers, he should never put a vocoder on his vocals ever ever again. It's gimmicky and it does'nt suit him. Its awful.


You must really hate Incense & Candles if you go out of the way to misspell it like that. Sure, of all of the music of his I've been exposed to for the past 9 weeks, I've only come across 5 songs that I could go w/o listening to and I think I hate with a passion... even so, I wouldn't go out of the way.

And I thought Musicology was his supposed "comeback" album, cuz in all of the interviews from that year, the interviewer kept bringing up "Prince is making a comeback", etc... sure, I guess I can see where you're going cuz the material on 3121 sounds like it could be released in this day and age.
But certain tracks like The Word stand out cuz they could have come from a diff. era. And what he did with the vocals on I&C did kinda work for me... it's yes & no, just cuz doing it at all reminds me of what Justin Timberlake does in his crummy songs.
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Reply #55 posted 04/12/07 10:48am

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Anx said:

i like the little guitar loop thingie but that's about it. i think this song and the damn boat song are wildly overrated.

TOTALLY! nod
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Reply #56 posted 04/12/07 11:03am

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:



You must really hate Incense & Candles if you go out of the way to misspell it like that.


No, that was a mistake... I'm not very good at spelling... I must have that disease... Whats it called?
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Reply #57 posted 04/12/07 11:20am

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darlingomo said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:



You must really hate Incense & Candles if you go out of the way to misspell it like that.


No, that was a mistake... I'm not very good at spelling... I must have that disease... Whats it called?



IT'S CALLED STUPID!

LOL

*noob alert - that's a reference to Prince's "Under The Cherry Moon" movie, if you ain't seen it. I'm not cussing out darlingomo....lmao
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Reply #58 posted 04/12/07 11:37am

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O LAWD eek


I BEEN SINGING
"SAFE GUARD AGAINST FUNK GUITAR" ALL THIS TIME neutral
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Reply #59 posted 04/12/07 11:45am

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Here's an interesting question.

The Word sounds like it could have been written at any time... it could fit in with Musicology but has a great deal of more class and sounds cleaner...
It could fit in with Sign O' the Times... but this is based on here-say... I don't own the album. I've only heard 2 songs from the album... I guess it kinda reminds me of the title track a little...

Do you think it could have fit somewhere else just as well? Cuz it definitely stands out from the other 3121 tracks quite a bit in my mind.
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