I can see why most people wouldn't get it but for me Come is a great album with a mesmorizing title cut. | |
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Really, any album by any artist could technically be considered a contractual obligation. | |
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live4lust said: It got a great review in EW when it came out. I like it. It suffers like most Prince albums from the 90s on--about five killer songs and then some filler. Too bad he can't blame it on WB anymore.
It got great reviews from many sources upon release, with one of the often talked about pluses being that it didn't have some pompous agenda to it and it seemed more like a normal, personal Prince album from earlier in his career. Letitgo certainly seems to be one of the most personally revealing tracks he'd released up to that point. As far as filler goes, an argument could be made that most of his albums are like that. The problem is... there's no real consensus in most cases on which tracks are filler. I think Space and Solo are great, for instance, and others hate them. | |
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This is one of my all time favorite Prince albums 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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What's to "get?" It's positively yummy. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: This is one of my all time favorite Prince albums
This albums has remained consistently enjoyable for me. I can't believe it's over 12 years old now! | |
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Come was orginally intended to be released as an EP with Interactive,Endorphinmachine,Space,Peach, Pope, and the other version of Come to be featured. It was going to be released in the late summer/early fall of 1993 and the Gold Album was going to be released in the spring/summer of 1994. WB balked at the idea of a EP being released and wanted the Greatest Hits album to be released.
WB won and and Pope and Peach were placed as filler on the Hits and B-sides. Come was made into a full album release as was Gold. Prince wanted to release albums as "Symbol" and as Prince. In 1994 the final Prince album "Come" was to be released in the Spring of 1994 and the first "Symbol" album ;GOLD was to released in the Fall of 1994. Prince was very upset with the entire situation and when several long time Prince supporters at WB were fired, Prince snapped. The results are the last 12 years worth of drama. In hindsight this was the beginning of the end of the record biz as we knew it. | |
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Well, I can kinda see why Prince considers 'Come' a 'contractual obligation'
album, but to be honest it's not quite in the same bracket as 'The Vault... Old Friends 4 Sale' and 'Chaos And Disorder'. 'The Vault...Old Friends 4 Sale' and 'Chaos And Disorder' were put together with the sole intent of fulfilling his contract with WB. If Prince hadn't fallen out with WB then neither album would have been released. This doesn't mean that the songs on these albums are poor, in fact there's some real gems on both albums. All it means is that Prince had no intention of handing over two hit-filled commercial albums at that time, so both records contain a lot of filler. 'Come' is slightly different, in that it's not the standard of the songs that's in question (it contains some great tracks), but the album itself which made Prince label it as a 'contractual obligation' album. Unlike the two albums named above, 'Come' probably [i]would[/b] have been released if Prince hadn't fallen out with WB (or if not the album itself, certainly most of the songs on it would've been). The reason 'Come' got the 'contractural obligation' tag was because it's only part of the album it was intended to be. Prince deliberately shortened it, and padded out the album by using the longer version of the title track and Orgasm, so as to give WB as little as he could get away with. | |
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jtfolden said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: This is one of my all time favorite Prince albums
This albums has remained consistently enjoyable for me. I can't believe it's over 12 years old now! I can't believe people diss it Papa and Solo are amazing songs! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: jtfolden said: This albums has remained consistently enjoyable for me. I can't believe it's over 12 years old now! I can't believe people diss it Papa and Solo are amazing songs! Solo?? Sorry, but it makes me laugh each and every time when people say they like that song. | |
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live4lust said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I can't believe people diss it Papa and Solo are amazing songs! Solo?? Sorry, but it makes me laugh each and every time when people say they like that song. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: live4lust said: Solo?? Sorry, but it makes me laugh each and every time when people say they like that song. I'm stealing that gif. | |
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live4lust said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I'm stealing that gif. I stole it from someone else Solo IS amazing! The come album was the "death" of Prince and this song conveys the absolute sense of being lost that Prince was at the time. Plus I had come out of my own hell and felt that alone. It's a very powerful song 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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muleFunk said: Come was orginally intended to be released as an EP with Interactive,Endorphinmachine,Space,Peach, Pope, and the other version of Come to be featured. It was going to be released in the late summer/early fall of 1993 and the Gold Album was going to be released in the spring/summer of 1994. WB balked at the idea of a EP being released and wanted the Greatest Hits album to be released.
WB won and and Pope and Peach were placed as filler on the Hits and B-sides. Come was made into a full album release as was Gold. Prince wanted to release albums as "Symbol" and as Prince. In 1994 the final Prince album "Come" was to be released in the Spring of 1994 and the first "Symbol" album ;GOLD was to released in the Fall of 1994. Prince was very upset with the entire situation and when several long time Prince supporters at WB were fired, Prince snapped. The results are the last 12 years worth of drama. In hindsight this was the beginning of the end of the record biz as we knew it. Aww... That statement almost felt like a stab in my own heart. I felt so bad for Prince for having to deal with that. Is that why Come supposedly has a bitter/dark edge to it? had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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[/quote]Is that why Come supposedly has a bitter/dark edge to it?[/quote]
Yes. The whole "Symbol" persona was an attempt for Prince to release music under different names so that he could fulfil the contract with WB. George Clinton was able to do this under the bands which were names Parlement,Funkadelic, Bootsy's Rubber Band, Brides of Funkenstein,etc. By 1993 the record biz execs. were hip to schemes such as these and caught Prince before he could get started. BTW, the Come/Gold idea was a good one it just wouldn't work and would have cost a company much money to do. It just wasn't good business sense. [Edited 4/9/07 14:09pm] | |
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muleFunk said: Is that why Come supposedly has a bitter/dark edge to it?[/quote]Yes. The whole "Symbol" persona was an attempt for Prince to release music under different names so that he could fulfil the contract with WB. George Clinton was able to do this under the bands which were names Parlement,Funkadelic, Bootsy's Rubber Band, Brides of Funkenstein,etc. By 1993 the record biz execs. were hip to schemes such as these and caught Prince before he could get started. BTW, the Come/Gold idea was a good one it just wouldn't work and would have cost a company much money to do. It just wasn't good business sense. [Edited 4/9/07 14:09pm] [/quote] I thought that was an interesting idea... since the songs from both albums are pretty similar (based on what I know of TGE and the few songs from Come off of TBE) had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: live4lust said: Solo?? Sorry, but it makes me laugh each and every time when people say they like that song. That was King of the Ring 95 rite? "Man, the living creature, the creating individual, is always more important than any established style or system" - Bruce Lee | |
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muleFunk said: Come was orginally intended to be released as an EP with Interactive,Endorphinmachine,Space,Peach, Pope, and the other version of Come to be featured. It was going to be released in the late summer/early fall of 1993 and the Gold Album was going to be released in the spring/summer of 1994. WB balked at the idea of a EP being released and wanted the Greatest Hits album to be released.
WB won and and Pope and Peach were placed as filler on the Hits and B-sides. Come was made into a full album release as was Gold. Prince wanted to release albums as "Symbol" and as Prince. In 1994 the final Prince album "Come" was to be released in the Spring of 1994 and the first "Symbol" album ;GOLD was to released in the Fall of 1994. Prince was very upset with the entire situation and when several long time Prince supporters at WB were fired, Prince snapped. The results are the last 12 years worth of drama. In hindsight this was the beginning of the end of the record biz as we knew it. If Prince would've had his way, and released both albums at once, I think it would've been huge. It would confuse people, but that's eccentricity for you! I'm just glad they both were released, because there was talk that TGE was going to be shelved. Still, I like the previous incarnations of TGE (with Interactive/Ripopgodazippa/Days Of Wild) a little more. Also, I think "Come" would've been a more successful album if that was not the title. It could've just as easily been named Letitgo. | |
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I like the Gold Experience far more than Come.
But COME vs. Gold to me is like what the Black Album is to LoveSexy. They accompany each other in a weird way. The whisper and wave seques in come are far more annoying than the NPGOperator from Gold--and I hated her too. Tracks I like off of COME are Space, Pappa, and Loose, with Dark somewhere up there too. Not a great album, but I like it better than his year 2000+ albums up until 3121. : fixed | |
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Se7en said: If Prince would've had his way, and released both albums at once, I think it would've been huge. It would confuse people, but that's eccentricity for you! I'm just glad they both were released, because there was talk that TGE was going to be shelved. Still, I like the previous incarnations of TGE (with Interactive/Ripopgodazippa/Days Of Wild) a little more. Also, I think "Come" would've been a more successful album if that was not the title. It could've just as easily been named Letitgo. I'm glad that he eventually did get to release TGE. I like Days of Wild, but Interactive was just blahh for me. I hadn't heard Ripopgodazippa yet, though. I said a few weeks ago that I think it was good that he didn't get his way because I bought 3 albums and listened to all of them within a week... and got in over my head. If I had known of him and done the same if he got his way, I think it would have been a shock to my system that I wouldn't be able to handle (plus I'd be 10 at the time...). And regarding the last post, Jt explained 2 me about the story of Come & TGE and they eventually came to be as they are, and they accompany each other since the material was written around the same time. So that's one thing that I'll keep in mind when I do get Come... that's also why Come is high on my priority list these days. Since I like TGE, I figured I'd like Come too... and I've already heard a few of the tracks courtesy of "The Beautiful Experience" and its got an interesting edge 2 it that I can't wait to check into. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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COME: deep... dark... funk. It's all about not giving a fuck. Great album!! | |
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rico86 said: seriously, help me understand
Not his best album, Except for "let it go" every track is one word long. My favorite tracks are loose, let it go and Papa. I do like the remixes of come and space | |
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NorthernLad said: COME: deep... dark... funk. It's all about not giving a fuck. Great album!!
Whoa... hold up there Stella. I don't think that's true at all. Letitgo is sort of the spiritual center to this album and I think it's ALL about caring and finally opening up to real emotional experiences. snippet from Letitgo: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside Never was a reason 2 let somebody know Lover here, lover there - Who cried? Who cared? Foolish pride Never was a good seat at any of this man's shows Until now all I wanted 2 do is Do do do what I do, and Bang bang bang on the drummer And love so-and-so But now I've got 2 letitgo (letitgo) Lay back and let the vibe just flow I wanna just letitgo (letitgo) Lay back and let my feelings show (letitgo) I'm ready 4 the real Give me something I can feel" Between that track, Solo, Papa, etc, it seems to me that Prince is caring quite a bit about things on this record, a lot of it from a very frustrated point of view. | |
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jtfolden said: NorthernLad said: COME: deep... dark... funk. It's all about not giving a fuck. Great album!!
Whoa... hold up there Stella. I don't think that's true at all. Letitgo is sort of the spiritual center to this album and I think it's ALL about caring and finally opening up to real emotional experiences. I agree with you, I meant more in dealing w/ the record company. He was like, "whatever, this is my album, it's coming out, do with it what you please." | |
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kpowers said: rico86 said: seriously, help me understand
Not his best album, Except for "let it go" every track is one word long. My favorite tracks are loose, let it go and Papa. I do like the remixes of come and space well actually it was called "Letitgo" so it was still one word | |
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InsatiableCream said: kpowers said: Not his best album, Except for "let it go" every track is one word long. My favorite tracks are loose, let it go and Papa. I do like the remixes of come and space well actually it was called "Letitgo" so it was still one word The old anotherloverholenyohead syndrome | |
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Yeah, the first time I saw the track listings for "Come", the first thing I noticed was that there were fewer tracks than some of the other albums... and all of the titles were one word.
I figured that this would be one of the last ones I'd think of getting cuz I hear it's pretty dark and I wasn't sure if I wanted to see Prince's "dark" side... but I've already heard a few of the tracks and I like the experimental edge they have. I suppose that if I think TGE shines like the sun (i think it does), then Come would be like the dark side of the moon... the complete opposite, but somehow, becuz of the sun & moon analogy, they still have their similiarites becuz the music was written at the same time. When I do get Come, I'll most likely go into a whole spiel about them being like the relationship of Yin & Ying. (blame my Chinese culture class 4 that) This is pretty much what I gather from the site's "here-say". had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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Space and Pheremone are bomb diggity! | |
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