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Thread started 04/08/07 8:09am

Se7en

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In The Spirit Of Easter

Yesterday while watching several religious programs on TV, I noticed that Prince has used a lot of religious keywords. He seems to maybe have covered them all:

• God
• Jesus
• Messiah
• Saviour
• Mary
• Moses
• Matthew
• Heaven
• Hell
• Devil
• Angel
• Saints
• Prophets
• Spirit
• Son
• Father
• Afterlife
• Everafter
• Prayers
• Amen
• Christmas
• Easter
• The Word
• The Lord's Prayer in its entirety

Has he ever used the word Satan? I can't recall. The list is impressive; I doubt many Christian pop/rock bands have covered this much.

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Reply #1 posted 04/08/07 10:17am

theodore

The Wicked 1? confused
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Reply #2 posted 04/08/07 10:18am

UCantHavaDaMan
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He's said "Devil".
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Reply #3 posted 04/08/07 10:21am

theodore

UCantHavaDaMango said:

He's said "Devil".


Spooky electric?
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Reply #4 posted 04/08/07 10:22am

UCantHavaDaMan
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theodore said:

UCantHavaDaMango said:

He's said "Devil".


Spooky electric?



In several songs. But I don't recall hearing him say Satan. I'll have to research that one.
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Reply #5 posted 04/08/07 10:23am

theodore

UCantHavaDaMango said:

theodore said:



Spooky electric?



In several songs. But I don't recall hearing him say Satan. I'll have to research that one.



I don't think he ever said Satan on a song hmmm
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Reply #6 posted 04/08/07 10:31am

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Se7en said:

Yesterday while watching several religious programs on TV, I noticed that Prince has used a lot of religious keywords. He seems to maybe have covered them all:


Umm, you might want to rephrase that... He's maybe used a lot of Christian keywords but in the grand scheme of things, Prince hasn't covered very many religious terms at all. In fact, he's been rather narrow in that regard.
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Reply #7 posted 04/08/07 10:47am

sitruk7

jtfolden said:

Se7en said:

Yesterday while watching several religious programs on TV, I noticed that Prince has used a lot of religious keywords. He seems to maybe have covered them all:


Umm, you might want to rephrase that... He's maybe used a lot of Christian keywords but in the grand scheme of things, Prince hasn't covered very many religious terms at all. In fact, he's been rather narrow in that regard.

The Rainbow Children cd is full of religious terms in my opinion.
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Reply #8 posted 04/08/07 10:55am

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sitruk7 said:

jtfolden said:



Umm, you might want to rephrase that... He's maybe used a lot of Christian keywords but in the grand scheme of things, Prince hasn't covered very many religious terms at all. In fact, he's been rather narrow in that regard.

The Rainbow Children cd is full of religious terms in my opinion.


All relating to the same religion though, aren't they?
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Reply #9 posted 04/08/07 11:00am

jackmitz

Thought of this line from Muse 2...

'Get busy big baby, cuz when dem devil come,
dem devil come dressed as light'
Occupy Alphabet Street!




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Reply #10 posted 04/08/07 12:40pm

Se7en

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jtfolden said:

Se7en said:

Yesterday while watching several religious programs on TV, I noticed that Prince has used a lot of religious keywords. He seems to maybe have covered them all:


Umm, you might want to rephrase that... He's maybe used a lot of Christian keywords but in the grand scheme of things, Prince hasn't covered very many religious terms at all. In fact, he's been rather narrow in that regard.


Do you mean other religions? I was talking about Christianity in particular - hence the "Easter" thread title.
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/07 2:16pm

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Se7en said:

Do you mean other religions? I was talking about Christianity in particular - hence the "Easter" thread title.


Yes, but Easter is made up of more than just Christian aspects... The holiday itself originates from before Christianity and many of the symbols and traditions people celebrate today have nothing to do with Christianity. So, just having Easter in the title does not automatically equate with a purely Christian thread.
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/07 2:21pm

2elijah

Se7en said:

Yesterday while watching several religious programs on TV, I noticed that Prince has used a lot of religious keywords. He seems to maybe have covered them all:

• God
• Jesus
• Messiah
• Saviour
• Mary
• Moses
• Matthew
• Heaven
• Hell
• Devil
• Angel
• Saints
• Prophets
• Spirit
• Son
• Father
• Afterlife
• Everafter
• Prayers
• Amen
• Christmas
• Easter
• The Word
• The Lord's Prayer in its entirety

Has he ever used the word Satan? I can't recall. The list is impressive; I doubt many Christian pop/rock bands have covered this much.

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You forget to mention "Jehovah" which he often mentions at his shows.
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Reply #13 posted 04/08/07 2:44pm

Se7en

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jtfolden said:

Se7en said:

Do you mean other religions? I was talking about Christianity in particular - hence the "Easter" thread title.


Yes, but Easter is made up of more than just Christian aspects... The holiday itself originates from before Christianity and many of the symbols and traditions people celebrate today have nothing to do with Christianity. So, just having Easter in the title does not automatically equate with a purely Christian thread.


I didn't mean to offend - I honestly did not know that Easter was anything BUT Christian. Knowing that Prince is Christian, that's the context I meant to convey.
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/07 2:46pm

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Se7en said:

jtfolden said:



Yes, but Easter is made up of more than just Christian aspects... The holiday itself originates from before Christianity and many of the symbols and traditions people celebrate today have nothing to do with Christianity. So, just having Easter in the title does not automatically equate with a purely Christian thread.


I didn't mean to offend - I honestly did not know that Easter was anything BUT Christian. Knowing that Prince is Christian, that's the context I meant to convey.

I thought he was a JW
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/07 3:54pm

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

theodore said:



Spooky electric?



In several songs. But I don't recall hearing him say Satan. I'll have to research that one.


"Nothing can stop this satanic lust" - Possessed
Stand at the crossroads, and look, and ask for the ancient paths...(Jeremiah 6:16) www.ancientfaithradio.com

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Reply #16 posted 04/08/07 4:01pm

theodore

fms said:

UCantHavaDaMango said:




In several songs. But I don't recall hearing him say Satan. I'll have to research that one.


"Nothing can stop this satanic lust" - Possessed


eek

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Reply #17 posted 04/08/07 4:09pm

christos7

All that backward stuff sounds satanic.



Alistair Crowley who founded the
satanic church said in his book Magic 'learn to speak backwards learn to write backwards, learn to play
records backwards..'

Backtracking, or backmasking is the form of inserting hidden messages into tracks which can only be consciously heard when played backwards. Most of the time these messages are inserted purposefully, sometimes by accident, some people even believe that the subconscious can actually pick up these messages. But the nature of the backtracked messages in many modern pop songs is so sinister as to leave no doubt to the intentions and affiliations of these singers.

Backmasking in popular music became infamous in the 1980s when fundamentalist preachers started saying that Satan was speaking to teenagers through subliminal messages hidden in rock music. One only needed to play the record backwards to hear such diabolical ranting as "It's fun to smoke marijuana", "I am Satan", "Serve the Beast for money", "I love Satan, alright. And Satan knows I love Him" and who can forget the famous, "Glory, glory to my sweet Satan, there was a little child born, it makes me sad, whose power is Satan", from Led Zeppelin’s "Stairway to Heaven".

There were 3 trains of thought at the time in regard to backmasking in popular music:

1. Satan was using musicians as demonic pawns. The messages were put in the music unwillingly by the devil himself.

2. The musicians were Satan worshipers who purposefully planted the messages into the songs.

3. Hogwash

The controversy instigated teenagers across the country to play their records backwards in search of the next new "Satanic message". Most certainly a boom for the record industry as well as record needle manufactures.

On the not-so-humorous side, the band Judas Priest actually had to defend themselves in court for the suicide pact of Raymond Belknap, 18, and James Vance, 20 in 1985.

Supposedly, the subliminal messages "Try Suicide," "Let's Be Dead," and "Do it, Do it" found on the band’s "Stained Class" album drove the youths to put shotguns to their heads and pull the trigger. Not only did the band win the lawsuit, but the case helped set a precedent. Law students study the case to this day in order to help them understand the difference between real science and junk science.

After this all unfolded musicians did what you would expect them to do. They began putting more subliminal messages into their songs on purpose. Sometimes in jest, sometimes as a marketing device and yes, even to glorify the devil.

1999: Forward: 'I won't hurt you..'

Reverse: 'O Satan!'

The list is long, and many backward messages have not yet been discovered.
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Reply #18 posted 04/08/07 4:11pm

theodore

wtf is that shit lockdance neutral
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Reply #19 posted 04/08/07 4:18pm

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Last night, I wanted 2 listen 2 TGE becuz I thought Prince was trying to tell me something thru it but I had 2 listen 2 be sure. I thought of him of a "saviour"... which was a little too much to ask for.

Last night by the time I finished, I saw him as a friend. That's never happened b4 and I liked it.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #20 posted 04/08/07 4:30pm

christos7

theodore said:

wtf is that shit lockdance neutral




evillol
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Reply #21 posted 04/08/07 4:37pm

theodore

christos7 said:

theodore said:

wtf is that shit lockdance neutral




evillol


falloff
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Reply #22 posted 04/08/07 5:08pm

christos7

theodore said:

christos7 said:





evillol


falloff


Damn this satanic talk, damn it 2 hell mad
Got me playin 'Ride the lightnin' lol headbang
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Reply #23 posted 04/08/07 5:10pm

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eek This is in the sprit of Easter??? (slowly backing out of thread)
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Reply #24 posted 04/08/07 7:32pm

wlcm2thdwn

And then people wonder why his lawyers want to shut sites down, that is horrible nobody has the right to judge that man! sad
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Reply #25 posted 04/09/07 12:37am

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christos7 said:

theodore said:

wtf is that shit lockdance neutral




evillol

omg boxed I think somebody better call an Exorcist! lol
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #26 posted 04/09/07 1:44am

christos7

wlcm2thdwn said:

And then people wonder why his lawyers want to shut sites down, that is horrible nobody has the right to judge that man! sad




Take a chill pill man. The only 1 bein judgmental here is u.
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Reply #27 posted 04/09/07 8:29am

Se7en

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PleasurePrinciple said:

Se7en said:



I didn't mean to offend - I honestly did not know that Easter was anything BUT Christian. Knowing that Prince is Christian, that's the context I meant to convey.

I thought he was a JW


JW is still Christian.
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Reply #28 posted 04/09/07 12:58pm

PleasurePrinci
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Se7en said:

PleasurePrinciple said:


I thought he was a JW


JW is still Christian.

thats not what I learned in church but whateva... rolleyes
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Reply #29 posted 04/09/07 1:27pm

Illustrator

In 5 Women,
Prince mentions the Easter Bunny.
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