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AvramsDad said: HA! Hiding yer cd's (BIIIIIG LOL) prolly says more about you than anything else.
Hide yer porn, not yer music. But, see, ya can't say ya don't know what he's talkin' about, though! We all know how it is: people come around and look at my cd's, come to my huge Prince collection and laugh, lookin' at me like, "explain yo'self!"... 'Course that's when I say, "All those cd's is Prince, and if you can't dig Prince, you don't know shit from shine-ola!'". But you KNOW we all have to do this from time to time!  |
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No honey, I NEVER have to do it. People treat you the way you let them nobody dares come into my home and give negativity on anythin that I bought with my money. you should look up the word "friend"! | |
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eyewishuheaven said: AvramsDad said: HA! Hiding yer cd's (BIIIIIG LOL) prolly says more about you than anything else.
Hide yer porn, not yer music. But, see, ya can't say ya don't know what he's talkin' about, though! We all know how it is: people come around and look at my cd's, come to my huge Prince collection and laugh, lookin' at me like, "explain yo'self!"... 'Course that's when I say, "All those cd's is Prince, and if you can't dig Prince, you don't know shit from shine-ola!'". But you KNOW we all have to do this from time to time! you either get Prince or you don't. and if they don't that's their loss. I have had so many arguments that it's ok any more. But I do stand up when I have to. That's not much anymore since I'm going on 20 years now. | |
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only hide them AFTER you've played em loud enough to make your neighbors want to steal em | |
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origmnd said: only hide them AFTER you've played em loud enough to make your neighbors want to steal em
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I suffer from this "fear what white men think of Prince fans" syndrome somewhat too.
But much less lately than before. Albeit, I own a few "The Smiths" t-shirts, and some gay ass Joy Division t-shirts, but they're trendy in the sense that they (At least in America) are more obscure than Prince. It's funny how black men, perceived to be the epitome of masculinity in America, don't have the same masculinity hangups about Prince as white men.  | |
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BlackandRising said: thedribbler said: A friend just came over, suprise visit.
We were as usual having a conversation about music. We have many mutual interests. He's over 10 years younger than me, so we both gain from these conversations. He, absentmindedly picked up my huge Prince cd folder and realises what he's got in his hands! "What these r all prince CDs? Well that's sick, man." I hate being forced into the defensive, On anyones' behalf. This has happened too often. I usually hide my prince cds, how about you? Man, the day I would have to hide anything in my house from a so-called friend is the day I stop having friends over! My Prince cd's are all over the place, no hiding. If anyone calls me on it, I essentially call them ignorant fucks for even stepping to me like that. If they don't like it, there's the door. But being forced to defend?? Man, seriously, that's weak. Not being an ass or anything here, but if you like Prince and what his music says, why do you even feel that you have to "defend" what you like? I'm Black, and I have everything from classical to country on my shelf. There have been a few times that someone has called me out on something, but I literally get offended that someone can be so close-minded. I tell them that's how I feel, how music is universal and no one has a copyright to like this or that type, and the discussion ends. One day a friend fronted me on my Led Zepplin collection...I asked if he knew the history, what they were influenced by, how people have co-opted what was our music and turned it into something that we're not supposed to like. To that I say bullshit. I like what I like, and make no apologies for it. Livin' in shame? Is that what it really makes you feel like when this happens? [Edited 3/17/07 11:14am] I agree.  I have a lot of 80s rock/soft rock in my collection because that's what I used to listen to when I was younger & people look at me like  I say "what?" I like anything that's good music & sorry but I liked Hall & Oats & Duran Duran & Phil Collins... so what? And yes I have more Prince than anyone else, that just shows that he put out not just more music than any other artist that I like, but more GOOD music than any other artist that I like. No hiding here. | |
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I display my albums/pictures of Prince. However, I'm a female and that does make a difference. I still get  WTF?? looks, but I don't really care, I guess. Plus it's not like that many people actually see. HE'S COMING AGAIN | |
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Well, an amazing variety of responses on this thread most of them sensible.
The rest were mostly from teenagers , god bless 'em. (because someone must). I do what I want when I want This friend of mine mostly likes neil young, Bowie, Dylan and other very high class acts. Talkin' in a bar recently he couldn't place or recognise Curtis Mayfields voice. He also said he doesn't have much time for james brown or miles davis. I told him I'd try to put a compilation together, just 4 him. He'll b goin' back home soon. I got a job to do | |
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thedribbler said: Well, an amazing variety of responses on this thread most of them sensible.
The rest were mostly from teenagers , god bless 'em. (because someone must). I do what I want when I want This friend of mine mostly likes neil young, Bowie, Dylan and other very high class acts. Talkin' in a bar recently he couldn't place or recognise Curtis Mayfields voice. He also said he doesn't have much time for james brown or miles davis. I told him I'd try to put a compilation together, just 4 him. He'll b goin' back home soon. I got a job to do I have my fingers crossed ... we may have another converter on our hands.  | |
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Imago said: It's funny how black men, perceived to be the epitome of masculinity in America, don't have the same masculinity hangups about Prince as white men. yes I've noted that as well, why do you think that is?? Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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paisley16 said: Imago said: It's funny how black men, perceived to be the epitome of masculinity in America, don't have the same masculinity hangups about Prince as white men. yes I've noted that as well, why do you think that is?? My hunch is that Prince can be a source of Pride for African Americans. He plays guitar like the best white guitarists, he's very influential, and he's a huge artist. Also, when Prince changed his name to  , we have to remember that this was essentially his statement against the opression of "the system of things.", and if anyone knows about Oppression in the US, it's black folks. Well, that and midgets.
So what whites may see as a publicity stunt, minorities might see as pioneering paths to independence---Emancipation if you will. White America saw Prince losing credibility as a star, and minorities, specifically blacks, saw it as gaining credibility.
Just a theory though. I have no proof.
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Imago said: paisley16 said: yes I've noted that as well, why do you think that is?? My hunch is that Prince can be a source of Pride for African Americans. He plays guitar like the best white guitarists, he's very influential, and he's a huge artist. Also, when Prince changed his name to , we have to remember that this was essentially his statement against the opression of "the system of things.", and if anyone knows about Oppression in the US, it's black folks. Well, that and midgets.
So what whites may see as a publicity stunt, minorities might see as pioneering paths to independence---Emancipation if you will. White America saw Prince losing credibility as a star, and minorities, specifically blacks, saw it as gaining credibility.
Just a theory though. I have no proof.
creditability edit [Edited 3/17/07 22:40pm] but I noticed this all the way back to 1984, long before any of the credibility issues you mention. I've just always simply thought many white men are just afraid of Prince- period. They don't get why so many women- of all races- find him attractive and it scares the shit out of them so they put him down instead. Easiest way for them to do that- the masculinity jokes and whatnot; it makes them feel better about themselves. Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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paisley16 said: Imago said: My hunch is that Prince can be a source of Pride for African Americans. He plays guitar like the best white guitarists, he's very influential, and he's a huge artist. Also, when Prince changed his name to , we have to remember that this was essentially his statement against the opression of "the system of things.", and if anyone knows about Oppression in the US, it's black folks. Well, that and midgets.
So what whites may see as a publicity stunt, minorities might see as pioneering paths to independence---Emancipation if you will. White America saw Prince losing credibility as a star, and minorities, specifically blacks, saw it as gaining credibility.
Just a theory though. I have no proof.
creditability edit [Edited 3/17/07 22:40pm] but I noticed this all the way back to 1984, long before any of the credibility issues you mention. I've just always simply thought many white men are just afraid of Prince- period. They don't get why so many women- of all races- find him attractive and it scares the shit out of them so they put him down instead. Easiest way for them to do that- the masculinity jokes and whatnot; it makes them feel better about themselves. Well, it would happen to androgynous white males too if they had as much sustaining power as Prince. But Boy George, George Michael, and the like are not nearly as talented. And if they were, I'd be interested to see how black America viewed them. My hunch is black men would still be more tolerant towards those musical acts if the talent was there, and they sung in genres of music generally embraced by African Americans (in general), more so than white males embracing them.
I don't think it's exclusive to Prince. Prince is just, as always, in a unique position. And let's face it--he can be a real pussy. This whole insisting on being "mysterious" bullshit doesn't help clarify anything either. 
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Im a straight male and 90% of my cd rack is Prince, Im getting older and I guess Im finding that the older I get the less I give a damn about what anyone thinks about anything, and thats a good thing | |
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thedribbler said: A friend just came over, suprise visit.
We were as usual having a conversation about music. We have many mutual interests. He's over 10 years younger than me, so we both gain from these conversations. He, absentmindedly picked up my huge Prince cd folder and realises what he's got in his hands! "What these r all prince CDs? Well that's sick, man." I hate being forced into the defensive, On anyones' behalf. This has happened too often. I usually hide my prince cds, how about you? Hey dribble-- Lately, I have been really thinking about how eccentric I seem to others because of my Prince fandom. My good friends have come to understand, but still think I am a little...bent. My husband finds it hard to be married to Prince groupie. I understand, I know that unless you really get an adult dose of him and get hooked--you never totally understand his music. And I don't even totally understand it. But I know what I feel for his accomplishments. I admire him. I admire a man who has worked as hard as he has through the years. Producing it, writing it, playing it and perfecting a really far out persona along the way. He is flamboyant and all, glam rock, etc., etc., but like you said... does one have to feel like they are some sort of anomaly just because they call themselves a Prince fan? Yes, ofcourse, who cares what THEY think. But, you know, it gets old after a while. It starts to feel like a curse. And this admiration isn't going ANYWHERE. It has been around for 27 years of my life. Since I was 13. It has only been recently I came fully OUT about Prince being my primary star. He just isn't main stream. And he isn't really subculture entirly either, he is something else all together. Even though I know there are millions of us out there, it would be nice if we all lived in the same neighborhood. "Ya feel me? | |
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BlackandRising said: thedribbler said: A friend just came over, suprise visit.
We were as usual having a conversation about music. We have many mutual interests. He's over 10 years younger than me, so we both gain from these conversations. He, absentmindedly picked up my huge Prince cd folder and realises what he's got in his hands! "What these r all prince CDs? Well that's sick, man." I hate being forced into the defensive, On anyones' behalf. This has happened too often. I usually hide my prince cds, how about you? Man, the day I would have to hide anything in my house from a so-called friend is the day I stop having friends over! My Prince cd's are all over the place, no hiding. If anyone calls me on it, I essentially call them ignorant fucks for even stepping to me like that. If they don't like it, there's the door. But being forced to defend?? Man, seriously, that's weak. Not being an ass or anything here, but if you like Prince and what his music says, why do you even feel that you have to "defend" what you like? I'm Black, and I have everything from classical to country on my shelf. There have been a few times that someone has called me out on something, but I literally get offended that someone can be so close-minded. I tell them that's how I feel, how music is universal and no one has a copyright to like this or that type, and the discussion ends. One day a friend fronted me on my Led Zepplin collection...I asked if he knew the history, what they were influenced by, how people have co-opted what was our music and turned it into something that we're not supposed to like. To that I say bullshit. I like what I like, and make no apologies for it. Livin' in shame? Is that what it really makes you feel like when this happens? [Edited 3/17/07 11:14am] Right on. The only reason I hide any of my cds is because I don't want mofo's walking off with any of them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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My Cd's are on display with the rest of my collection. Usually I get "U have a lot of Prince, damn."
NO one ever criticized, except for my boyfriend. He's jealous, so I ignore him anyway. Now if anyone saw my memoribilia, they might say something. if they did, I'd tell them to kiss my ass. | |
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diana7777 said: thedribbler said: A friend just came over, suprise visit.
We were as usual having a conversation about music. We have many mutual interests. He's over 10 years younger than me, so we both gain from these conversations. He, absentmindedly picked up my huge Prince cd folder and realises what he's got in his hands! "What these r all prince CDs? Well that's sick, man." I hate being forced into the defensive, On anyones' behalf. This has happened too often. I usually hide my prince cds, how about you? Hey dribble-- Lately, I have been really thinking about how eccentric I seem to others because of my Prince fandom. My good friends have come to understand, but still think I am a little...bent. My husband finds it hard to be married to Prince groupie. I understand, I know that unless you really get an adult dose of him and get hooked--you never totally understand his music. And I don't even totally understand it. But I know what I feel for his accomplishments. I admire him. I admire a man who has worked as hard as he has through the years. Producing it, writing it, playing it and perfecting a really far out persona along the way. He is flamboyant and all, glam rock, etc., etc., but like you said... does one have to feel like they are some sort of anomaly just because they call themselves a Prince fan? Yes, ofcourse, who cares what THEY think. But, you know, it gets old after a while. It starts to feel like a curse. And this admiration isn't going ANYWHERE. It has been around for 27 years of my life. Since I was 13. It has only been recently I came fully OUT about Prince being my primary star. He just isn't main stream. And he isn't really subculture entirly either, he is something else all together. Even though I know there are millions of us out there, it would be nice if we all lived in the same neighborhood. "Ya feel me? Cool, a kindred spirit, thanks 4 the mail. You understand me. | |
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mistermcgee said: Thanks mister, I'd never heard that before. It's out o' sight. | |
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thedribbler said: diana7777 said: Even though I know there are millions of us out there, it would be nice if we all lived in the same neighborhood. "Ya feel me? Cool, a kindred spirit, thanks 4 the mail. You understand me. Can you imagine what that neighborhood would be like???  We'd have some great block parties....but then it would ultimately break down into factions over which albums you like, who's old school, who likes Prince with straight hair....etc.! j/k....it'd be the best!!! Uptown, USA!Ask where they're going, they'll tell U – "Nowhere"
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thedribbler said: A friend just came over, suprise visit.
We were as usual having a conversation about music. We have many mutual interests. He's over 10 years younger than me, so we both gain from these conversations. He, absentmindedly picked up my huge Prince cd folder and realises what he's got in his hands! "What these r all prince CDs? Well that's sick, man." I hate being forced into the defensive, On anyones' behalf. This has happened too often. I usually hide my prince cds, how about you? My ex husband used to use my Prince obsession to embarrass me in front of friends. He would tell ppl I was a Prince fan like it was some sort of illness.  | |
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Shanti1 said: ?
My ex husband used to use my Prince obsession to embarrass me in front of friends. He would tell ppl I was a Prince fan like it was some sort of illness. [/quote]
I guess that's why he's your EX-husband.  | |
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1sexymf said: Shanti1 said: ?
My ex husband used to use my Prince obsession to embarrass me in front of friends. He would tell ppl I was a Prince fan like it was some sort of illness. I guess that's why he's your EX-husband. [/quote]
Heheehe ONE of the reasons!!!! | |
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Shanti1 said: 1sexymf said: I guess that's why he's your EX-husband. Heheehe ONE of the reasons!!!! There's an unspoken agreement between me and my wife that we keep each others' personal stuff away from 3rd parties. I think it's an agreement born of mutual respect 4 1another. But there may come a day when, in a rage she breeches that contract. Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned! I won't b at all pleased, and the sun would do well to refuse to shine on that day. | |
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thedribbler said: Shanti1 said: Heheehe ONE of the reasons!!!! There's an unspoken agreement between me and my wife that we keep each others' personal stuff away from 3rd parties. I think it's an agreement born of mutual respect 4 1another. But there may come a day when, in a rage she breeches that contract. Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned! I won't b at all pleased, and the sun would do well to refuse to shine on that day. She better not go there - even in rage. There's just some things you just don't do. | |
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thedribbler said: Shanti1 said: Heheehe ONE of the reasons!!!! There's an unspoken agreement between me and my wife that we keep each others' personal stuff away from 3rd parties. I think it's an agreement born of mutual respect 4 1another. But there may come a day when, in a rage she breeches that contract. Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned! I won't b at all pleased, and the sun would do well to refuse to shine on that day. It is good to have those agreements. He just loved to watch me squirm and try to cover it up and play it down... He knew it really pissed me off but it is all about respect I suppose. | |
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This is actually a good thread. I will admit I had a period where I didn't want anyone to hear my Prince stuff cause I didn't want anyone to tell me that it sucked (it didn't to me but I was sensitive to it). I was a Marine so that had a part to play with my feelings. I got over it but I can see where The Dribbler is coming from.
Even with the embarassment, it didn't stop me from letting people see my CD collection, especially the Prince part. That was the one section where people talked the most. What was cool about it was seeing people's amazement at how many albums there were. They had no idea Prince had made that many albums and a small conversation would start because of it. In my last year in the Corps, I had a big Prince poster on my wall, from the Musicology tour, and by the time I left, EVERYONE in my unit knew I was a Prince fan. So Dribbler or anyone else in his position, don't be embarrased to you like great music. Hell, flaunt that shit! Show them what time it is! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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The only time I am embarrassed with Prince music is when I am at work. It's some what quiet here and I play my IPOD a lot when I'm here. But sometimes I turn down the volume a little because I will get those Prince songs where he screams so loud or the dirty songs like Head. Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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