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Reply #90 posted 02/22/07 3:07pm

Riverpoet31

I think some people here have the tendency to put too much emphasis on the influence Wendy and Lisa had on Princes music.

I mean, on earlier songs (the ending of 'when we are dancing close and slow', Annie Christian, DMSR) you can allready hear a clear Beatles-influence, especially that of John Lennon.

Next to that, also on songs and albums released after the Revolution disbanded Prince continues to use Beatles influence regulary (Starfish and Coffee on Sign of the Times, Glam Slam, Lovesexy and Positivity on Lovesexy, The bridge of the song Diamonds and Pearls, Dolphin on the Gold Experience, The bridge of Dark from the Come Album, Animal Kingdom on The Truth, to name some obvious ones).

Next to that i see tendencies in Princes music to push the boundaries about what 'popular music' IS or SHOULD SOUND, a characteristic he shares with the Beatles, especially during their collaborations with George Martin.

In short, i am sure Prince did know about the music of the Beatles before Wendy and Lisa became his main songwriting partners. He might not own all their albums or know all of their bestknown songs, but i think he really respects them and sometimes use their influences in his own music.
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Reply #91 posted 02/22/07 3:12pm

NDRU

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Riverpoet31 said:

The bridge of the song Diamonds and Pearls


I forgot about that, that's very Beatles.
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Reply #92 posted 02/22/07 3:15pm

Riverpoet31

something i would like to ad:

The period 'Around the world in Day-Parade-Sign of the Times-Lovesexy' (Prince)

always reminds me a lot of:

The period 'Rubber Soul-Revolver-Sgt.Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band-Magical mystery tour-White Album' (Beatles)

In the way of artists, after building a signature sound for some years, making some 'left-turn', letting their creativity flow, experimentating with song-structures, arrangements and sounds, redefining 'pop music'.
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Reply #93 posted 02/22/07 5:32pm

NDRU

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Riverpoet31 said:

something i would like to ad:

The period 'Around the world in Day-Parade-Sign of the Times-Lovesexy' (Prince)

always reminds me a lot of:

The period 'Rubber Soul-Revolver-Sgt.Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band-Magical mystery tour-White Album' (Beatles)

In the way of artists, after building a signature sound for some years, making some 'left-turn', letting their creativity flow, experimentating with song-structures, arrangements and sounds, redefining 'pop music'.


We've discussed this before (even linking specific albums), but I see this too. Prince & the Beatles can be divided in phases, and they're analagous to some extent.

Prince's Purple trenchcoat period=the beatlemania suit period, the way many fans will always picture these artists, their commercial/pop peaks.

Middle period Prince, as you explained above.

Diamonds & Pearls & later=White Album & later, when the artists mature, but settle into a more lasting style that's perhaps not a weird or innovative as the one before it.

Maybe more complicated than that, and it applies to other artists, too. Beethoven is divided into three periods.
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Reply #94 posted 02/23/07 1:04am

jn2

And I'd like to see Prince/ Le Cirque Du Soleil collaboration.
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Reply #95 posted 02/23/07 6:55am

theodore

jn2 said:

And I'd like to see Prince/ Le Cirque Du Soleil collaboration.



What 4? bored
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Reply #96 posted 02/23/07 7:58am

dammme

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NDRU said:

Riverpoet31 said:

The bridge of the song Diamonds and Pearls


I forgot about that, that's very Beatles.


hmmm it sounds more Beach Boys to me than beetle
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Reply #97 posted 02/23/07 8:35am

SquirrelMeat

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Raspberry Fields Forever?

Hey Nude?

Come (Together)?

I Wanna hold your gland?

Purple Submarine?

Ticket To Ride Dyvine?

Jehovahs witness for the prosecution?
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Reply #98 posted 02/23/07 8:36am

dammme

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SquirrelMeat said:

Raspberry Fields Forever?

Hey Nude?

Come (Together)?

I Wanna hold your gland?

Purple Submarine?

Ticket To Ride Dyvine?

Jehovahs witness for the prosecution?

lol
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Reply #99 posted 02/23/07 8:38am

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Is not the Beatles influence on Prince and everybody else related to how overrated the Beatles are? hmmm
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Reply #100 posted 02/23/07 8:40am

booyah

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SquirrelMeat said:

Purple Submarine?


Oh no - I think you may have just stumbled onto something...


What does Jehovah's Witness 4 The Prosecution have to do with The Beatles?
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Reply #101 posted 02/23/07 9:02am

ufoclub

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dammme said:

Is not the Beatles influence on Prince and everybody else related to how overrated the Beatles are? hmmm


if they indeed have a blanket inluence, then they would be underrated in the minds of many younger music fans who aren't aware.
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Reply #102 posted 02/23/07 9:27am

NDRU

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booyah said:


What does Jehovah's Witness 4 The Prosecution have to do with The Beatles?


That's what I'm wondering

How about:

I've Been Hard Days & Nights
Please Please Me--ok as is
A (Sexy) Day in the Life
I'm Like A Walrus
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?--ok as is
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Reply #103 posted 02/23/07 12:40pm

NorthernLad

i have a bad feeling about this..... sad
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Reply #104 posted 02/23/07 12:42pm

booyah

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NDRU said:

A (Sexy) Day in the Life


falloff
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Reply #105 posted 02/23/07 12:50pm

NorthernLad

Can someone please explain to me WHY someone with a vault full of original material - one of the most prolific and original songwriters in rock history - would chose to do a covers album? Of songs that everyone has heard 6 zillion times?

I mean, it could be amazing. It could be brilliant. It could be absolutely catastrophic.

Either way, i'd much rather have new original material.


But then, Prince doesn't take my advice normally cool
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Reply #106 posted 02/23/07 12:55pm

BobGeorge909

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NorthernLad said:

Can someone please explain to me WHY someone with a vault full of original material - one of the most prolific and original songwriters in rock history - would chose to do a covers album? Of songs that everyone has heard 6 zillion times?

I mean, it could be amazing. It could be brilliant. It could be absolutely catastrophic.

Either way, i'd much rather have new original material.


But then, Prince doesn't take my advice normally cool



Cuz they have some CRAZY great songs and Prince, imaginative as he is...can do A LOT with that. Plus it's like amillion seller. How many people ADORE the beatles still> How many diehard fans r there...of the beatles alone...c'mon...let juice his mind and make some money too...
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Reply #107 posted 02/23/07 1:05pm

paisley16

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I really don't know what to think about all of this but am leaning towards just another false rumor. However, it would explain WHY when Elton John took the stage at 3121 a couple of weeks ago- he sang "Long and Winding Road". For the life of me I can't figure out why with all the Prince material there is, and all the Elton John material there is, they would do the Beatles. (Of course, it could also just be that Elton didn't want to risk messing up a Prince song at a Prince show, and Prince might not of wanted to risk his band possibly messing up an Elton song)... confused
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Reply #108 posted 02/23/07 1:19pm

NorthernLad

BobGeorge909 said:

NorthernLad said:

Can someone please explain to me WHY someone with a vault full of original material - one of the most prolific and original songwriters in rock history - would chose to do a covers album? Of songs that everyone has heard 6 zillion times?

I mean, it could be amazing. It could be brilliant. It could be absolutely catastrophic.

Either way, i'd much rather have new original material.


But then, Prince doesn't take my advice normally cool




Cuz they have some CRAZY great songs and Prince, imaginative as he is...can do A LOT with that. Plus it's like amillion seller. How many people ADORE the beatles still> How many diehard fans r there...of the beatles alone...c'mon...let juice his mind and make some money too...



Yeah, they are amazing... they are the greatest band in pop/rock history, and people love their songs. BUT will people like the idea of Prince doing their songs? I dunno...
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Reply #109 posted 02/23/07 1:27pm

squirrelgrease

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Does this mean The Revolution will reform so Yoko can break them up?
If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot.
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Reply #110 posted 02/23/07 1:32pm

ufoclub

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squirrelgrease said:

Does this mean The Revolution will reform so Yoko can break them up?


Larry = Yoko
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Reply #111 posted 02/23/07 2:57pm

Anx

NDRU said:

booyah said:


What does Jehovah's Witness 4 The Prosecution have to do with The Beatles?


That's what I'm wondering

How about:

I've Been Hard Days & Nights
Please Please Me--ok as is
A (Sexy) Day in the Life
I'm Like A Walrus
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?--ok as is


or how about

Lovesexy Me Do
Purpleback Writer
Darling Nikki Meter Maid
A Day in the Life Can B So Nice
Dig Paul Better Dead
Back in the MPLS
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Nowhere Man
Bob George Paul & Ringo
A Little Help From My Old Friends 4 Sale

oh god i have too much time on my hands today lol
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Reply #112 posted 02/23/07 4:12pm

audience1

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Jakeasaurus said:

I hope not. I want PRINCE songs, not Beatles songs.


Dammit..


Agreed- if he wants to do a little side project with covers and release it over the internet that's cool. But I would be greatly disspointed if his next big project was a cover album...I highly doubt he would do an entire album of beatles songs though- doesn't make much sense.



I triple that notion.
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Reply #113 posted 02/23/07 4:46pm

NDRU

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Anx said:

NDRU said:



That's what I'm wondering

How about:

I've Been Hard Days & Nights
Please Please Me--ok as is
A (Sexy) Day in the Life
I'm Like A Walrus
Why Don't We Do It In The Road?--ok as is


or how about

Lovesexy Me Do
Purpleback Writer
Darling Nikki Meter Maid
A Day in the Life Can B So Nice
Dig Paul Better Dead
Back in the MPLS
I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Nowhere Man
Bob George Paul & Ringo
A Little Help From My Old Friends 4 Sale

oh god i have too much time on my hands today lol


lol Always time for this kind of crap!

I Wanna Jack U Off
She Loves U For Me
Rasberry Beret Forever (ooh, I kind of stole that one)
Hello (Goodbye)
Baby, I'm a Rich Man
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Reply #114 posted 02/24/07 7:54am

SlamGlam

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i hope not...
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Reply #115 posted 02/28/07 9:24pm

Snake

Riverpoet31 said:

I think some people here have the tendency to put too much emphasis on the influence Wendy and Lisa had on Princes music.

I mean, on earlier songs (the ending of 'when we are dancing close and slow', Annie Christian, DMSR) you can allready hear a clear Beatles-influence, especially that of John Lennon.

Next to that, also on songs and albums released after the Revolution disbanded Prince continues to use Beatles influence regulary (Starfish and Coffee on Sign of the Times, Glam Slam, Lovesexy and Positivity on Lovesexy, The bridge of the song Diamonds and Pearls, Dolphin on the Gold Experience, The bridge of Dark from the Come Album, Animal Kingdom on The Truth, to name some obvious ones).

Next to that i see tendencies in Princes music to push the boundaries about what 'popular music' IS or SHOULD SOUND, a characteristic he shares with the Beatles, especially during their collaborations with George Martin.

In short, i am sure Prince did know about the music of the Beatles before Wendy and Lisa became his main songwriting partners. He might not own all their albums or know all of their bestknown songs, but i think he really respects them and sometimes use their influences in his own music.


DAMN I Like Everythin U Said biggrin !!
U are totally right,btw Wendy didn't know how to even Play when she joined the band. Prince taught her everything. Even so, I LOVE Wendy & Lisa's Brand of Music and wish Prince did more of it. He could have done better on the Truth but I love that CD anyway & One nite alone.
Actually all I need is...
1.For U
2.Prince
3.Around the world
4.Parade
5.ONA
6.The Truth
7.Wendy & Lisa
8.Fruit @ the bottom
9.GirlBrothers
10.SomethingNew
11.8madhouse
12.The family

and I'm in a blissful state of mind wink

I always wanted Prince & Mayte to be the New John & Yoko, They almost made it.
That era was awesome!
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