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Reply #30 posted 02/09/07 10:08am

BananaCologne

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

kpowers said:

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar (and this is just a cigar)



That's one phallic lookin' mutha fuggin' pipe. mad
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Reply #31 posted 02/09/07 11:00am

Handclapsfinga
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BananaCologne said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:




That's one phallic lookin' mutha fuggin' pipe. mad

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Reply #32 posted 02/09/07 12:05pm

BlackandRising

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hmmm Interesting theory, but I think this is just another case of reading too much into Prince's actions.





Besides, any fan worth their salt could tell you that when the Purple One is trying to make a point, he's more likely to hit you over the head with it in some absurdist fashion than slip it subtly into the mix.


I disagree. Today's climate is permeated by politics. EVERYTHING is tinged with the body politic. Had he given a blatant anti-war message, he would have been crucified, eviscerated, drawn and quartered and skinned in the press by now.

Prince has never really made anything that hit you over the head with his message, he's always very subtle. Otherwise, there would have been no mystery about what he was about back in the day.

I think that any true fan sees that Prince's true messages are very hidden, very subtle, and require much thought to decipher.

When I heard what he played at the super bowl, I asked my self, why those two songs, and why die he mixe them the way he did? I didn't come up with what the blog did regarding Best of You, but All Along The Watchtower was a no-brainer for me. I thought, good choice to say something without really saying it.
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Reply #33 posted 02/09/07 12:25pm

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the way i see it, All Along The Watchtower was about his JW belief. he just mixed it up in a rock song.

The Best of You is a cool track to play - it rocks hard and it's a bit of an anthem. i totally see the setting going with that song.
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Reply #34 posted 02/09/07 12:48pm

Imago

I totally believed he was going to do the entire All along the watchtower complete with Hindrix style war sounds on his guitar. lol


But I first thought "oh shit, he's gonna 'dear mr. man' us", but then when he launched into the foo fighters tune, I totally forgot about it. I was too busy Jizzing my pants. lol


But the theory seems a bit elaborate, but I wouldn't doubt he had some anti-ware statement in mind. hmmm
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Reply #35 posted 02/09/07 12:50pm

Imago

Milty said:

the way i see it, All Along The Watchtower was about his JW belief. he just mixed it up in a rock song.

The Best of You is a cool track to play - it rocks hard and it's a bit of an anthem. i totally see the setting going with that song.



Actually, maybe Watchtower was his nod to his JW experiences and a message to Larry Graham. And maybe the Foo fighters track is a way of saying he no longer buys it and that Larry has been playin his ass for a fool. He even ends it with "I gotta another confession my friend [larry graham], I ain't no fool."

Then he shows his shadow penis in Purple Rain to show the freaky Prince is back. Maybe he's saying "Larry, get outta here--I'm going back to fucking everything in site!" pray
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Reply #36 posted 02/09/07 12:57pm

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Imago said:

Milty said:

the way i see it, All Along The Watchtower was about his JW belief. he just mixed it up in a rock song.

The Best of You is a cool track to play - it rocks hard and it's a bit of an anthem. i totally see the setting going with that song.



Actually, maybe Watchtower was his nod to his JW experiences and a message to Larry Graham. And maybe the Foo fighters track is a way of saying he no longer buys it and that Larry has been playin his ass for a fool. He even ends it with "I gotta another confession my friend [larry graham], I ain't no fool."

Then he shows his shadow penis in Purple Rain to show the freaky Prince is back. Maybe he's saying "Larry, get outta here--I'm going back to fucking everything in site!" pray


it's always about sex with you.
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Reply #37 posted 02/09/07 1:45pm

2elijah

BananaCologne said:

I thought there was definately something more to it, mainly because of the sheer fact he was doing something left-field like that on a world stage, it was a bit of a risk, but I adored it. He was in strong voice and sang it with passion and conviction.

Oooh listen to me, I'm coming over all 'fammy'. Quick, someone twat me one.



That line about the "noose" I just couldn't figure out where he was going with that line, until I read the author's post, could have a point there, and that look he gave when he said "I have to confess, I ain't no fool" he said that with passion, as if to say, you get my point?" However, I think people were so excited watching the performance that most did not read between the lines too much.
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Reply #38 posted 02/09/07 2:05pm

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meow85 said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:

Yeah, and the song sister is about a nun lol


NSFW


http://www.thebirdman.org...ce-Nun.jpg





How does Borat say....very niiiice!
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Reply #39 posted 02/09/07 4:59pm

RUHip2TheJive

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meow85 said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:

Yeah, and the song sister is about a nun lol


NSFW


http://www.thebirdman.org...ce-Nun.jpg


hrmph
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Reply #40 posted 02/10/07 10:35pm

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BlackandRising said:

meow85 said:

hmmm Interesting theory, but I think this is just another case of reading too much into Prince's actions.





Besides, any fan worth their salt could tell you that when the Purple One is trying to make a point, he's more likely to hit you over the head with it in some absurdist fashion than slip it subtly into the mix.


I disagree. Today's climate is permeated by politics. EVERYTHING is tinged with the body politic. Had he given a blatant anti-war message, he would have been crucified, eviscerated, drawn and quartered and skinned in the press by now.

Prince has never really made anything that hit you over the head with his message, he's always very subtle. Otherwise, there would have been no mystery about what he was about back in the day.

I think that any true fan sees that Prince's true messages are very hidden, very subtle, and require much thought to decipher.

When I heard what he played at the super bowl, I asked my self, why those two songs, and why die he mixe them the way he did? I didn't come up with what the blog did regarding Best of You, but All Along The Watchtower was a no-brainer for me. I thought, good choice to say something without really saying it.



But how many people got it? Did anyone, aside from fans and this blogger/writer notice? I'm sure even Prince knows there's no point sending out a message if no one can hear it.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #41 posted 02/14/07 8:51am

Joyela

Well, I thought of it when I was watching him sing it. Just the look on his face as he sang it clued me in to his singing about something else. And why else melt the songs into each other like that? Maybe it's because I'm older and am familiar with both songs, and I immediately knew that Prince had changed the lyrics to "Watchtower." So then when he suddenly went into "Best of You," I knew he was trying to impart something. Too subtle for the Super Bowl audience? Sure. But he knew people would play it back and listen to get it. After all--to paraphrase "Graffiti Bridge," something I never thought I would do--when others are screaming, the person that then gets your attention is the one who whispers. It seems that our entire political climate these days is screaming; why not be subtle and "whisper" something you really want to say?
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Reply #42 posted 02/14/07 9:09am

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About your thoughts? I dunno. Could be.

I do know P is smarter and more brilliant than any of us think.
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Reply #43 posted 02/14/07 9:21am

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jus711 said:

Don't be so quick to disregard this as over-analysis.

Why cover these two songs together otherwise? They seemingly have no musical or lyrical connection.


I think you'll find the songs are linked musically very well. They both use the same intervals, that's why there was a totally seamless transition between the two - he just changed the key!
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Reply #44 posted 02/14/07 9:24am

wlcm2thdwn

NEVER underestimate Prince, NEVER!
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Reply #45 posted 02/14/07 9:28am

novabrkr

He was attempting to turn "The Best Of You" into a new sports anthem in the vein of "We Will Rock You".
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Reply #46 posted 02/14/07 9:32am

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Reply #47 posted 02/14/07 9:32am

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I think this analysis may be onpoint!! Prince always does things in subtle ways. He completely expresses himself and talks to us through his music..all we have to do is listen. And he is a very simple yet complex man and I can see how he would do somethign like that. Look at at when he performed on the BET awards..didnt he make a slick comment or say somethign about the governmnet there tpoo?? when he

jus711 said:

Don't be so quick to disregard this as over-analysis.

Why cover these two songs together otherwise? They seemingly have no musical or lyrical connection.

Yes, I understand Prince digs Jimi, and I understand that the "Best of You" cover could be a slight dig at the Foo Fighters for the Darling Nikki incident, but this allows him do that and make poignant social commentary at a globally televised event.

We know Prince has a social conscience (Ronnie Talk to Russia, SOTT, Money Don't Matter 2nite, Cinnamon Girl, etc), and this is a hugely topical and unpopular war.

The more I think about it the more I'm convinced that this theory is spot-on.

Look at the expression on his face after he sings the final line "I ain't no fool," it's almost as if he's saying "Did you get that?"
"Don't play me...I'm over 30 & I don't smoke weed...."

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Reply #48 posted 02/16/07 10:06am

rastoma

and it could be that he wanted to cover music that appealed to everyone there and watching.

did you see how many teens ran up to the stage? how many of those 'kids' knew as much about Prince as we do? how many grew up listening to Prince? I think it's safe to say not many.

would they be as excited over bambi as they would had a song from the Foo Fighters?

I think Prince just wanted to cover as wide of range as possible regarding generations of music.

Prince's religious beliefs would keep him from being concerned with world politics or anti-war messages. He knows man can never do anything about the state of the world so why waste energy preaching against it?
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Reply #49 posted 02/16/07 6:00pm

feB

in order 2 this theory u could also read it like this:

all along the watchtower mght refer to the "watchtower" the offical magazine of the jehova witnesses...is maybe p blaming them to have taken the best of him?

just a theory
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Reply #50 posted 02/16/07 7:06pm

GLuv4U

jus711 said:

There is broad speculation around the internet that the All Along the Watchtower/Best of You cover is a not-so-subtle anti-war protest.

The Largest Minority blog writes:

Prince’s Subtle Anti-War Statement During Halftime
Posted by: Manila Ryce
Posted Monday, February 5th, 2007 at 1:59 am
Filed under: US Politics, Videos, Society & Culture, World Issues, Entertainment, Personal Posts, War, Civil Unrest, Music, Political, Asia

The clip below is only half of the halftime show (making it a quartertime show?). While I only took Prince’s performance of “All Along the Watchtower” and “Best of You” to have an anti-war message, I left the end of his performance in as well. Why? Well, because there’s an extremely suggestive silhouette of Prince behind a giant sheet showing us exactly how excited he was to be performing at the Superbowl. Intentional or not, I had to include it for hilarity sake.


At about the midpoint of Prince’s halftime performance, the artist performed a mixed cover of “All Along the Watchtower” and “Best of You”. Prince starts “All Along the Watchtower” at its proper beginning, with the two riders (the joker and the thief) approaching. Dylan, who wrote the lyrics in ’68, placed the middle of the story at the beginning of the song to throw the listener into a conversation which had already begun.

“All Along the Watchtower” is generally considered to be a statement about social reform in the 60’s, with the watchtower representing an established power structure guarding itself from those who have a true, yet unaccepted view of human worth. The story is largely uneventful, and the only confrontation taking place is between value systems. Biblical references are also plentiful, leading some to believe that the Joker and the Thief are Jesus and the crucified man next to him, respectively. Without analyzing every line, the song originally described the growing resistance to the Vietnam War and the establishment which made it possible. Why would Prince play this song at the Superbowl? In my opinion, he was making an anti-war statement about the current resistance to the Iraq War.

After the one verse, Prince transitions into “Best of You” by the Foo Fighters. I believe this song is originally about a failed relationship between a man and a woman, but coupled with “All Along the Watchtower” it takes on a different meaning. In this case, we might think of the administration as the one getting the best of us as we fight its restraints on our freedom. Again, Prince does not start at the beginning of the song, but transitions in at “Are you gone and onto someone new? I needed somewhere to hang my head, without your noose.” This may have been a convenient place to open the song, as the lyric could refer to Saddam’s execution, and the persecution anyone might face for opposing the establishment. After confirming the pain we feel as a society, Prince asks over and over again, “Is someone getting the best of you?” At the end he defiantly states, “I ain’t no fool”.

Perhaps I drank too much during the game, and am simply reading into this. Then again, they do seem like odd song choices for Prince to cover without having a specific reason. Your thoughts and interpretations are appreciated.

Lyrics to the performance:

All along the watchtower,
Princes kept the view,
While all the women came and went —
Barefoot servants too.
Outside in the cold distance,
A wildcat did growl.
Two riders were approaching, and
The wind began to howl.

Are you gone and onto someone new?
I needed somewhere to hang my head
Without your noose
You gave me something that I didn’t have
But had no use
I was too weak to give in
Too strong to lose
My heart is under arrest again
But I break loose
My head is giving me life or death
I will choose
I swear I’ll never give in
I refuse

Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Has someone taken your faith?
Its real, the pain you feel
You must
Confess
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Oh…

Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?
Is someone getting the best, the best, the best, the best of you?

I’ve got another confession my friend
I ain’t no fool

It makes perfect sense to me.
[Edited 2/7/07 15:03pm]
Yes I too thought those choice of songs were alittle out of the ordinary for Prince to perform, but his reasons 4 singing them we may never know confused
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Reply #51 posted 02/16/07 11:22pm

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Okay since we're on one...

I don't believe for one second that Prince didn't have that Super Bowl show planned and premeditated. Dude is a perfectionist.

Wifey and I are lifeless enough to have discussed the Prince performance of those two songs. First off - the music has to be good. I wasn't hip to Best of You prior to the Super Bowl - but have since downloaded and found it to be a great song (I love that about music). It had a cool factor resonation with that audience - a bit younger.

All Along the Watchtower, with it's Dylan and Hendrix ties reached the core audience of rock-n-roll loving football fans. At the same time, AAtWT is a play on words with the pamphlets (called the Watchtower) that Jehovah's Witnesses hand out.

It was my guess that Best of You maybe fit into his recent split with Mani.

But who really knows?

The mysteries of Prince are one reason I enjoy following his career.
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Reply #52 posted 02/17/07 7:39am

mrleeareed

bobsteezy said:

Okay since we're on one...

--SNIP--

It was my guess that Best of You maybe fit into his recent split with Mani.

But who really knows?

The mysteries of Prince are one reason I enjoy following his career.


I'm surprised you're the first person to share my idea...I took Best of You to be about the divorce from Mani, while AATW was about the War.
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Reply #53 posted 02/17/07 10:08am

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"everything you think,is true"
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #54 posted 02/17/07 8:48pm

robertes71

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mrleeareed said:

bobsteezy said:

Okay since we're on one...

--SNIP--

It was my guess that Best of You maybe fit into his recent split with Mani.

But who really knows?

The mysteries of Prince are one reason I enjoy following his career.


I'm surprised you're the first person to share my idea...I took Best of You to be about the divorce from Mani, while AATW was about the War.


To me, 'Best of You' is a total break-up song.
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Reply #55 posted 02/17/07 9:47pm

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I have no doubt Prince was trying to make some statement...His facial expression when he sang the lyric "I ain't no fool"...

the anti-war message is the easiest to correlate as it's the movement du jour in some quarters, however I thought the statement could be a broader stance against the conformity in society on so many levels not talked about. Political correctness, corporate America, the state of the music business -- the state of music! Subtle brainwashing, enslavement on many levels.. I think alot could be said about it...
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