From Housequake OT:


The gauntlet has been thrown! This moring while being interviewed by Donnie Simpson on the radio show of the same title, Timbaland spoke about his interaction with Prince saying that Prince is better than Michael Jackson but that he (Prince) has gone to far in trying to critique other artist music.

Timbaland said that Prince listened to his music and patronizingly said "son, your not there yet" to which Timberland responded with "ok, sense I'm running this!"He went on to say that times and "the game" has changed and He is on top now and chooses to work with less talented newcomers, its not the 70's anymore etc. In support of these comments and view, a track was played from Timbaland's forthcomming album featuring: Nelly fertado, and Justin Timberlake. On the track, Justin Timberlake makes a reference to Prince's "sexy never left"comment made at an awards aftershow in '06 saying Prince wishes he thought of the song and how he's on top and Prince is over with. Keep in mind, Prince's name is not mentioned directly but implied. The album has not been given a release date. When asked whether Timbaland will be at the superbowl, Timberland said yes he'll been in the stands saying "yeah Prince whatever"!



"Could you speak up and stop mumbling
I dont think you're even clear
When you're sitting on the top
it's hard to hear you from way up there.
I saw you tryin to act cute on TV
"Just let me clear the air."
We missed you on the charts last week
Damn that's right, you wasn't there

Now if sexy never left
then why is everybody on my s**t
Don't hate on me just because
you didn't come up with it
So if you see us in the club
go on and walk the other way
Cause our run will never be over
not at least until we say"

GRAAAAAHGGHHH

Timbaland is going to lose all his credibility soon: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ontroversy

Looks like Prince knew what he was talking about

The MASTER has many who want 2 be
But the cards always turn the table
REAL talent is SUGAR free
Turn the page on this fable
[Edited 2/4/07 3:16am]

Prince is right, most of these so called musicians today are just running off image. It wouldn't be so bad if they had something to offer but most of them don't. He's earned his dues and been there long enough to say "son you're not there yet". If he said it to me i'd listen and ask what he thinks I should do.

This world is freakin' nuts.....Timberlake and Timberland are nothing compared to Prince. Where do these guys get off even thinking they can say this trash???? The only thing I'll give Timberlake is that he can dance real good but as far as being a musician and creating music, they are nothing compared to Prince.

It's like comparing someone who can dribble a basketball to Michael Jordan. I hope Prince really rips it at the Super Bowl.

You are so right. Artist now a days don't listen to the elder artist like they should. It's something like a father and son relationship. If the father says, your not there yet son, and the son is mad all he will do is rebel instead of takeing it to heart and reexamine the work. But then again,the son is young.

You know he's going to bring the house down! My love always rocks the house!

Graycap23 said:

Church!

If Prince is history then why are they trying to copy his sound? And why has that been so successful in terms of publicity and record sales?



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[Edited 2/4/07 3:55am]

Hey Timbabland... ...it's the dude whose beats you stole and his lawyers! Hey...wait...where you going? Come back!
[Edited 2/4/07 4:36am]

please bear in mind that outside of l.a and new york timberland and that other nsyncer mean nothing! They havent earned any respect from anyone and if u asked a music fan in the uk who's better timberland or prince the first thing they would say is who is timberland?????

these up themselves american celebs really need a reality check and especially that asshole usher who seems to think he is a god! i went to see usher live and i have never been so bored in my life, michael jackson my ass, mj could whip his ass in a wheelchair

how stupid is Timberlake for actually getting angry at Prince for saying that

what thin skin...like that commennt was directed at him personally. That comment was more about Price than about Timberlake

Honestly the other week at the Golden Globes when Timberlake annouced Prince had won for Song of the Heart. His face dropped...he looked very uncomfortable even nervous. I wonder what would have happened if Price hadnt been late to the show

This little boy needs to grow-up.....Im sure somebody is going to yank him up soon. Its just silly. Whne you bite somebodys style, vibe and flavor that he so clear does (and even admitted) with Sexyback expect the Master to not be so impressed
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mozfonky said:

really? most artists and so-called artists would not take a shine to anyone insulting their stuff, not even if it was Prince doing the criticizing.

Now if Timbaland had asked Prince what he thought about his music and got that answer then, he got his answer and that would have been it. But the way I read it, ain't nobody ask him what he thought.
In 1981, Prince wouldn't have accepted that from anyone, not in 83, sure as hell not in 85, no even in 78 when he himself "wasn't there yet." Granted, that doesn't give Timbaland the green light to be disrespectful but c'mon. Prince was out of line. He never ever wanted anyone criticizing his music so why would he do that to someone else? Nowadays,you're not going find people to just let him get away with it because he's a legend or whatever. That's just not the way the world turns now.

You guys all make valid points, but so did Timbaland. Prince DOES have a habit of dissing other musicians, so don't be surprised or offended when they return the favor. The fact is, Timbaland IS a talented producer. Yeah, he bit Prince's whole style (and drum machine) with FS/LS, but it was still good. And lets not forget Prince has had controvery of his own regarding WHO wrote WHAT!!

alwayslate said:

So it's Prince's fault that Timbabland and Timberflake can't handle the truth? Whether they wanted to know it or not is irrelevant because it is what it is...the truth! Prince was just the one brave enough to say it!

Instead of crying like some little spoiled ass kids, they need to go somewhere and really put some work in on their damn craft! Maybe then they could put out something that they didn't have to copy and/or steal from somebody else!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Of course, Prince criticizes an artist and it's 'brave' and 'honesty'. An artist criticizes Prince and it's whiney baby disrespectfulness. okay. It's Prince's fault that he was rude; not that what he said was true or false. pure and simple rudeness is what I am faulting Prince for. Just like he was rude to Michael Stipe and I'll bet y'all applauded that behavior then too. Sorry to tell ya but Prince is not untouchable. His music over the last 14 years hasnt' been there either.

Being as I am a fan of Prince's and consider him a major role model for my music, I would listen to what he had to say. You know, the job of mentoring isn't always friendly, sometimes you have to chew ass. Now, as far as other musicians who criticize my music, I hate it because I realize it's coming from envy or jealousy and is not an honest critique, and believe me, as a musician, the failures are much ruder than Prince: believe that.

alwayslate said:

He said,"Son, you're not there yet." How is that rude? Because it's not what Timbabland wanted to hear? Sounds like whiney baby behavior to me.
[Edited 2/4/07 5:45am]

mozfonky said:

That's interesting. Prince's track record as a mentor is so awful I'd be wary of any advice or criticism he had to offer. Prince is good at many things, but nurturing and guiding other talent is not one of them.

Alan Leeds said something like: Prince's proteges are like satellites constellating various aspects of his personality--the minute you develop your own voice he loses interest in you.

As a mentor, Prince is a failure, and his words to Timbaland were not so much rude as they were condescending, unconstructive, smug, conceited, and unhelpful.

alwayslate said:

Yeah, you're right. I just don't feel like giving Timbaland a break right now. He deserves that rudeness right now.
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padawan said:

Well, he's just being Prince, and I do agree with his track record past the years of the Time and Vanity etc.., That's a close mentorship, not like the one we're discussing. Hell, just listening to his music has taught me so much without any intentions of his at all.

I don't have anything to say good about Timbaland or in defense of him.

However, I will say Prince is insulting, demeaning, and haughty to people (when I've seen interviews ..and from what I've read) and since he's been struggling for the last 10 years to truly release something reflecting his highest potential he should really keep the derisive comments to himself.

He's too arrogant for the output he has now.

I watched the superbowl media performance on YouTube and someone there posted that Prince acted so self-important (i.e the showboating and glam mugging) that it made them sick. I instantly agreed with the comment.

I think asshole and diva attitude should be reserved for when you're in your transcendent moments. Otherwise it's best to be humble.

You know, put up or shut up. Contemporarily, he can't hang in the pop culture climate Timbaland is a staple in -- and he's embarrassingly tried. Yeah, they bite off of PRince, esp. Justin on this current album and certainly Usher, Bey, etc. but it's off the former greatness not his current stuff.

I don't see in the reports above whether or not Timbaland asked for the critique or not, and I don't see anything to confirm that Prince has taken a special mentoring interest in his career.

As I read it, my interpretations was just that Prince gave feedback and Timbaland didn't like it. He decided to go on the offensive. That doesn't surprise me, but what saddens me is the argument he uses.

It's apparent that "artists" like Timbaland and Timberlake value popularity over substance, originality or craft. With this mentality there isn't much chance of them listening to feedback or suggestion or to possess even a desire to learn. They're making money and so as far as they are concerned, there's no room for improvement. If they had the heartfelt desire to make MUSIC and valued that ability above all else, they might have a shot of making something of what talent they have. As it is, they are rewarded handsomely for mediocrity and measure their value in dollars and cents.

So, by that yardstick, Timbaland is absolutely right. Prince is not at the top of "the game". And I'm very glad he isn't.

HalluRain said:

And there it is!

HalluRain said:

Thank you! In my opinion both sides were wrong here. Telling Timbaland that he's "not there yet" isn't helpful, it's just a statement that makes somebody feel bad, but it is still the truth. And Timbaland needs to wake the hell up. He's been doing the same shit for a decade and some change. It's good but it's still the same ol' same ol'

Prince has grown with leaps and bounds since he started. When he began his singing wasn't as good, his writing wasn't as good, his dancing damn sure wasn't as good, and his image wasn't as well crafted as it has come to be. Prince took a hard look at himself and truly improved and grew as an artist. Timbaland is just content to sit back and make some money oh well.

HalluRain said:

The Congregation says AMEN!!

mane whatever.
People need to just shut up and get over it.
They get feelings over the smallest things.
"your not there yet" oh the fuck well, that should be atleast something to look foward to[[as in, "well i gotta better myself"]] not to go and diss Prince.
That is so immature, you never see Prince making a damn song to diss another artist. That grinds my gears!!
Gargh.

SynthiaRose said:

The last time I checked...Greatness didn't have an expiration date!

PurpleRighteous1 said:

Girl you got that right. Especially Prince's dancing.
I remember seeing him on bandstand and laughing my damned arse off when Prince wore those gold spandex pants and did that stupid little shuffling foot stomp during his performance.