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Thread started 09/08/02 9:28am

Anji

CONTROVERSY - the album...

I am just absolutely LOVING this album at the moment. It must have been in my collection for just over a decade (!) but it's only now that I'm REALLY digging the music (!!) Anyone else think that this album just funks, rocks and souls amazingly well??
[This message was edited Sun Sep 8 9:29:34 PDT 2002 by Anji]
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Reply #1 posted 09/08/02 9:35am

AprilMichelle

controversy is one of my 2 favorite prince albums(the other being SOTT)...it has a very short running time (37:18) but each song is a tightly crafted gem...stripped down but not boring or minimalistic...always gets rotation in my CD player
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Reply #2 posted 09/08/02 9:38am

AprilMichelle

oops running time is 37 :18
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Reply #3 posted 09/08/02 10:15am

BorisFishpaw

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I really like Controversy too,
there's so many great tracks on it.
Though I could live without 'Ronnie
Talk 2 Russia' (should've just been
a b-side IMO) & 'Do Me Baby' maybe
should've been the final track.
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Reply #4 posted 09/08/02 10:27am

DavidEye

"Private Joy" is my favorite song on this album.Back in the fall of '81,I was playing this song non-stop.It's a classic!!
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Reply #5 posted 09/08/02 10:48am

Pellwormer

..and Annie Christian is very cool...
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Reply #6 posted 09/08/02 10:49am

AzureStar

It's one of my favorites!
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Reply #7 posted 09/08/02 12:04pm

tackam

Yeah, I had a delayed response to this album too, and now it's one of my favs. The title track is thumpin', I love the spoken part at the end. . ."People call me rude, I wish we all were nude, I wish there was no black and white, I wish there were no rules". Private Joy is such a wonderful campy little 80's gem. And Jack U Off is FUNNY. So is Ronni Talk to Russia. . ."go to the zoo but don't feed guerillas who're gonna blow up the world"

Fab. Love it.

Doves,
Mel!ssa
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Reply #8 posted 09/08/02 1:06pm

giotto

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Whilst on the subject of the Controversy album, the outtakes from this period that never made the cut were:

The original version of 'Tick, Tick, Bang'
'Broken'
'Gotta Stop (Messin' About)'

Does anybody else believe 'Controversy' would have been a stronger album had the above songs been part of it?

'She's Just A Baby' is the weakest track from this particular era and was, IMO, rightfully shelved.


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Reply #9 posted 09/08/02 1:07pm

Harlepolis

DavidEye said:

"Private Joy" is my favorite song on this album.Back in the fall of '81,I was playing this song non-stop.It's a classic!!


Same here!
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Reply #10 posted 09/08/02 1:37pm

BorisFishpaw

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following on from Giotto's post,
other tracks that didn't make Controversy...

Wouldn't You Love To Love Me?
Delivery Boy
Make You Mine
There's Something I Like About Being Your Fool
Strange Way Of Saying I Love You
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Reply #11 posted 09/08/02 3:06pm

TRON

I like this album better than ever too. Doesn't get the recognition it deserves. But rollingstone.com recently updated their review of it with a very generous 4 star rating. check it out-

http://www.rollingstone.c...949&cf=377
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Reply #12 posted 09/08/02 3:20pm

korovyov

I think Sexuality is one fo the greatest songs he's made. it is so great!
BY THE POWER INVESTED IN ME BY GOD ALL NEGATIVITY BOWS
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Reply #13 posted 09/08/02 3:43pm

monica

I love it! I just got it a few days ago (I'm a new fan) and my favorite songs are (besides Controversy and Do Me Baby), Sexuality, Private Joy and Let's Work.
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Reply #14 posted 09/08/02 6:45pm

adorable2

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I love it and wouldn't remove one track because that cd gives a listener more of an inside look into Prince's abilities than you think.
I'm an org elitist... totally unapproachable.

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Reply #15 posted 09/08/02 7:40pm

FlyingCloudPas
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DavidEye said:

"Private Joy" is my favorite song on this album.Back in the fall of '81,I was playing this song non-stop.It's a classic!!


That's the first song Prince used the Linn Drum Machine in. Just a little observation, one of my favorites as well off that album.
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Reply #16 posted 09/08/02 8:39pm

rockwilder

i have copies of broken,she's just a baby,and the other ones in general circulation.does anyone have any of the other songs thatw ere mentioned in the follow-up post?i've always ben very fascinted with the controversy album.i've probably listened to diry mind and controversy a million times!!i want all songs from that period.
"I'm a pig..so,magic elixir I swill"
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Reply #17 posted 09/08/02 8:46pm

Jasziah

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I had 1999 for an entire year before I got another Prince album, then I had Purple Rain for about six months, and finally bought Controvery in early 85. Loved it. It has so many different sides of Prince in it and is a ton of fun. Spiritual-sexual-political. I don't know why, but for the longest time "Let's Work" was the song I always skipped. I was raised on rock, so I guess I didn't understand the song at the time. It's one of my favs now, especially after seeing Prince open with this song during his live performance on Sinbad's old late-night talkshow.
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Reply #18 posted 09/08/02 9:58pm

violator

originally posted by Jasziah:
I don't know why, but for the longest time "Let's Work" was the song I always skipped. I was raised on rock, so I guess I didn't understand the song at the time.


Props to you for a very honest statement that no doubt applies to many others on this board. 'Let's Work' could be substituted for any number of different P tunes and apply.

I don't know why so many others have difficulty making admissions like these.
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Reply #19 posted 09/08/02 10:03pm

Natasha

Controversy is a wonderful Album Besides the title track, Do Me Baby, Private Joy , Annie Christian, Sexuality and Jack U Off. The piano solo Do Me Baby was breathtaking and Prince's Falsetto Glorious. Simply Wonderful. And the Sexy Poster of Prince wearing just black thongs with his hair wet in the shower with a Crucifix on the wall was well,Controversial, Hot , And Scandalous! THE Man Is Awesome!
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Reply #20 posted 09/08/02 10:11pm

Moonbeam

I cannot say enough about this album. About 4 years ago, I thought that anything before "1999" was simply an afterthought. However, this album and "Dirty Mind" proved me wrong! I can go as far to say that I have probably listened to "Controversy" more than any other album by Prince in the past 4 years. It truly is consistent and wonderful! Every track is great.
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Reply #21 posted 09/09/02 1:24am

unremarkable

giotto said:

Whilst on the subject of the Controversy album, the outtakes from this period that never made the cut were:

'Gotta Stop (Messin' About)'


Er--I have this on vinyl.
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Reply #22 posted 09/09/02 2:09am

DavidEye

giotto said:

Whilst on the subject of the Controversy album, the outtakes from this period that never made the cut were:

The original version of 'Tick, Tick, Bang'
'Broken'
'Gotta Stop (Messin' About)'

Does anybody else believe 'Controversy' would have been a stronger album had the above songs been part of it?

'She's Just A Baby' is the weakest track from this particular era and was, IMO, rightfully shelved.


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Actually,"Gotta Stop Messin About" was recorded during the 'Dirty Mind' sessions in 1980,so in all likelihood,it is an outtake from 'Dirty Mind'.

I LOVE "She's Just A Baby"! I've always felt that Prince should have shortened "Do Me,Baby" in order to make room for this song on the album.
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Reply #23 posted 09/09/02 6:35am

Neversin

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giotto said:

Whilst on the subject of the Controversy album, the outtakes from this period that never made the cut were:

The original version of 'Tick, Tick, Bang'
'Broken'
'Gotta Stop (Messin' About)'

Does anybody else believe 'Controversy' would have been a stronger album had the above songs been part of it?


"'Gotta Stop (Messin' About)" was released and was a "Dirty Mind" leftover, it was never intended for "Controversy"...
"Broken" and "She's Just A Baby" were also never considered for "Controversy"...

Neversin.
O(+>NIИ<+)O

“Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man's?”

- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
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Reply #24 posted 09/09/02 9:44am

SheSaidLoveMe

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korovyov said:

I think Sexuality is one fo the greatest songs he's made. it is so great!



Yes, Sexuality is HOT! Pure, unadulterated Prince!!!
"Love is God, God is love
Girls and boys love God above!"
- SheSaidLoveMe
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Reply #25 posted 09/09/02 9:44am

giotto

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DavidEye said:

giotto said:

Whilst on the subject of the Controversy album, the outtakes from this period that never made the cut were:

The original version of 'Tick, Tick, Bang'
'Broken'
'Gotta Stop (Messin' About)'

Does anybody else believe 'Controversy' would have been a stronger album had the above songs been part of it?

'She's Just A Baby' is the weakest track from this particular era and was, IMO, rightfully shelved.


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Actually,"Gotta Stop Messin About" was recorded during the 'Dirty Mind' sessions in 1980,so in all likelihood,it is an outtake from 'Dirty Mind'.

I LOVE "She's Just A Baby"! I've always felt that Prince should have shortened "Do Me,Baby" in order to make room for this song on the album.



Thanks for bothering to post this. Just to clear matters up, TURN IT UP 0.2 points out that a leftover called "Lisa" is now "the only "Dirty Mind" outtake circulating among fans".


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Reply #26 posted 09/09/02 10:17am

rdhull

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Controversy is the bomb diggity---this is the album that Prince put his shit together and took his studio wizardry to the next level from Dirty Mind. He learned to "freak" the slow song with Do Me baby.He learned to punk funk the jam with Controversy--that opening to Controversy--wa wab--is the shit. The whole song screams of a Prince manifesto,lyric and music-wise. The chicken scratch guitar alone makes it a classic...the odd synth--the lords prayer-the grunts of "ugghs" on the back beat..the whole damn thing is the ultimate Prince song. Vintage Prince shit. Sexuality shows his new wave influence,and intoduces his trademark aoohoo scream. Do Me Baby he realized what he could actually do in a dark studio..precursor to all slow jams being freaked and an album before International Lover. Private Joy with that Linn-drum machine is ultimate pop. Very underrated. I love th e voice he uses in it especially when he says "cant get enuff cant get enuff". Lets Work, rubbery bass and razor synth that goes together and jams. This is the MN. sound. Annie Christian-anti music, Prince weirdness that
made him Prince. And driving it back home, J U Off, his rockabilly rock pre Delirious Elvis imitation. Controversy is the essence of Prince music. This is one of those records that I want to fuck. This is not music, this is a trip. Every home should have one.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #27 posted 09/10/02 12:23am

MightBQueen

dang gotta go put it on!
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Reply #28 posted 09/10/02 6:11am

NettieSmiles

DavidEye said:

"Private Joy" is my favorite song on this album.Back in the fall of '81,I was playing this song non-stop.It's a classic!!


Yes, Yes, Yes, Uh-huh!
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