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Reply #30 posted 01/16/07 3:32am

Nightcrawler

I Love "The Vault", so I´d have to choose "Chaos & Disorder", which I´m not THAT fond of...
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Reply #31 posted 01/16/07 4:48am

Cloudbuster

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Not keen on either.
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Reply #32 posted 01/16/07 4:54am

tripp

i thought that the vault was released by warner brothers, not prince.
this came out around the same time as rave did, thats why i thought it was a warner release.
anyway i hate this album, chaos is MUCH better.
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Reply #33 posted 01/16/07 5:00am

r1ghteousone

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tripp said:

i thought that the vault was released by warner brothers, not prince.
this came out around the same time as rave did, thats why i thought it was a warner release.
anyway i hate this album, chaos is MUCH better.

They'e both contract-fillers for WB.
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Reply #34 posted 01/16/07 6:00am

metalorange

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tripp said:

i thought that the vault was released by warner brothers, not prince.
this came out around the same time as rave did, thats why i thought it was a warner release.
anyway i hate this album, chaos is MUCH better.


It was released by Warners, but it was given to them complete including cover art take-it-or-leave it several years earlier to complete his contract. It was up to Warners when they chose to release it, and they decided to do that almost the exact same time as Rave came out.
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Reply #35 posted 01/16/07 7:02am

Shorty

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I love the vault. It's in my top 3. smile no lie.
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #36 posted 01/16/07 7:06am

lotus

Cloudbuster said:

Not keen on either.


AGREED!
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Reply #37 posted 01/16/07 7:34am

vivid

I love the Vault - Apart from Sarah and Rest of My Life, the songs are great- they don't really all fit together that well as an album, but I love the jazzy/bluesy organic sound. 5 Women is one of my favourite Prince songs.

Chaos and Disorder on the other hand, I can't really listen to. I listen to a lot of rock/guitar based stuff and would love P to make a great rock album, but I think C&D is pretty weak.

I've converted a few muso types to Prince using the Vault selectively. I wouldn't let them anywhere near Chaos and Disorder.
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Reply #38 posted 01/16/07 7:54am

jaimestarr79

I forgot about both of these pieces of shit. The question should of read: which is favorite pieces of shit by prince, and can you list them in order from greatestpiece of shit to smallest piece of shit. Here is my list is:

1) Emancipation- because you have a complete box set of shit, consisting of 3 complete discs
2) rainbow children
3) Chaos and Disorder
4) The Vault
5) 3121
6) one nite alone ( Piano version )
7) the Truth
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Reply #39 posted 01/16/07 8:49am

Shorty

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jaimestarr79 said:

I forgot about both of these pieces of shit. The question should of read: which is favorite pieces of shit by prince, and can you list them in order from greatestpiece of shit to smallest piece of shit. Here is my list is:

1) Emancipation- because you have a complete box set of shit, consisting of 3 complete discs
2) rainbow children
3) Chaos and Disorder
4) The Vault
5) 3121
6) one nite alone ( Piano version )
7) the Truth


despite the fact that I completely disagree with many of the albums on your list...what perturbs me the most about your post is your calling one mans work or art "pieces of shit" Now understandably not everyone is going to like every album the man puts out but if you have any respect for the man at all, how on earth could you refer to any of his works of his art as a "piece of shit" ? I mean it's just plain disrespectful and shows a selfish childish mentality. It's seems you're simply trying to insult for the sole purpose of upsetting people. neutral
"not a fan" falloff yeah...ok
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Reply #40 posted 01/16/07 10:35am

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I took the Vault to be a retrospective of several years; so I accepted the fact it was "thrown" out there and had no real concept.

Chaos and Disorder I flat out had a hard time liking .. and still do. In fact, it is the only "released" LP that is NOT a part of my collection.
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Reply #41 posted 01/16/07 4:26pm

actionthisday

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jaimestarr79 said:

I forgot about both of these pieces of shit. The question should of read: which is favorite pieces of shit by prince, and can you list them in order from greatestpiece of shit to smallest piece of shit. Here is my list is:

1) Emancipation- because you have a complete box set of shit, consisting of 3 complete discs
2) rainbow children
3) Chaos and Disorder
4) The Vault
5) 3121
6) one nite alone ( Piano version )
7) the Truth


Amazing, your bottom four are in my top 10, glad I stopped living in the past and accepted Prince's music with open ears
[Edited 1/16/07 16:27pm]
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Reply #42 posted 01/16/07 4:50pm

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I think the quality of the songs varies more on C & D , theres some very good songs and some OK songs , whereas everything on The Vault is good . I don't listen to The Vault as much as I have C & D though , so I'd say The Vault is the slightly worse album , purely cos I know theres stuff on Chaos that I really really like whereas The Vault I just put down as a very pleasant listen now and again .
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Reply #43 posted 01/16/07 5:50pm

tito

actionthisday said:

Saying "which one is worse" is not really a good question. You are putting both albums in the negative based on your opinion. Saying "Which one do you prefer more"...might be a better way of putting it.
[Edited 1/14/07 23:07pm]

agreed both r good especialy c&d
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Reply #44 posted 01/16/07 5:55pm

tito

Shorty said:

jaimestarr79 said:

I forgot about both of these pieces of shit. The question should of read: which is favorite pieces of shit by prince, and can you list them in order from greatestpiece of shit to smallest piece of shit. Here is my list is:

1) Emancipation- because you have a complete box set of shit, consisting of 3 complete discs
2) rainbow children
3) Chaos and Disorder
4) The Vault
5) 3121
6) one nite alone ( Piano version )
7) the Truth


despite the fact that I completely disagree with many of the albums on your list...what perturbs me the most about your post is your calling one mans work or art "pieces of shit" Now understandably not everyone is going to like every album the man puts out but if you have any respect for the man at all, how on earth could you refer to any of his works of his art as a "piece of shit" ? I mean it's just plain disrespectful and shows a selfish childish mentality. It's seems you're simply trying to insult for the sole purpose of upsetting people. neutral


agreed this pal dont b call a prince fan respect the music my friend!!!
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Reply #45 posted 01/16/07 7:08pm

masbas

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Chaos and Disorder was weak. I rock... did not rock. The album was a mess. Probably his worst album ever.
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Reply #46 posted 01/17/07 7:18am

Anx

masbas said:

Chaos and Disorder was weak. I rock... did not rock. The album was a mess. Probably his worst album ever.



wrong
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Reply #47 posted 01/17/07 3:27pm

clarityman

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A lot of people feel that Prince just made Chaos & Disorder just to fill out the rest of his obligations on his contract with Warner Bros, so he can make way to do his Emancipation album without Warner bros. So he really didn't really care what he released to Warner Bros. And the Vault is that long awaited album, songs that we heard legends and rumors he has kept in his vault, songs that he'll never release. So when word got out that they was going to release some on a album, we could'nt wait to buy it. Which album stinks more and why.



LOL and they arent even bad albums! wink
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Reply #48 posted 01/17/07 6:11pm

kpowers

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none of the above
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Reply #49 posted 01/17/07 6:57pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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I actually absolutely LOVE both these albums. People trip way unneccesarliy on C&D and The Vault while not the legendary release it could have been is really quite a fine album nod
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Reply #50 posted 01/18/07 5:06am

Anx

both have ugly artwork, which i think people make a confused association with the music within.
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Reply #51 posted 01/18/07 8:27am

Imago

masbas said:

Chaos and Disorder was weak. I rock... did not rock. The album was a mess. Probably his worst album ever.

harsh lol



I honestly thin that if Prince had release back during his early career, this album would have been met with critical acclaim. It's a messy fusion of different genres, but so were his earlier albums. This thing is raw, funky, and hard hitting--it's lacking only in that the songs don't sound finished. shrug
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Reply #52 posted 01/18/07 8:49am

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I can't say; I haven't listened 2 either album in years; I don't even remember listening 2 each album in full.
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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Reply #53 posted 01/18/07 10:12am

CosmicTalk

C&D was complete filler-trash.
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Reply #54 posted 01/18/07 10:30am

Anx

CosmicTalk said:

C&D was complete filler-trash.


i wish prince would start making filler-trash again. sad
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Reply #55 posted 01/18/07 10:56am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Anx said:

CosmicTalk said:

C&D was complete filler-trash.


i wish prince would start making filler-trash again. sad

Me too! lol If there was no mention about contracts or any of that shit in connection to C&D most folks would be praising it. People were conditioned from the get go to discount this album and stupidly they have.
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Reply #56 posted 01/18/07 11:03am

CosmicTalk

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Anx said:



i wish prince would start making filler-trash again. sad

Me too! lol If there was no mention about contracts or any of that shit in connection to C&D most folks would be praising it. People were conditioned from the get go to discount this album and stupidly they have.


Not me. It was weak regardless of how it was pushed and/or marketed. You can tell it was filler trash because later that year he dropped Emancipation and that blew away C&D with ease.
Cornbread, Grits, and Collard Greens/I got what you need/If you want it/Cuz I'm a pimp, girl/With a drippy, juicy Jheri Curl
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Reply #57 posted 01/18/07 11:05am

Anx

CosmicTalk said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Me too! lol If there was no mention about contracts or any of that shit in connection to C&D most folks would be praising it. People were conditioned from the get go to discount this album and stupidly they have.


Not me. It was weak regardless of how it was pushed and/or marketed. You can tell it was filler trash because later that year he dropped Emancipation and that blew away C&D with ease.


which i guess is why every once in a while we'll get a 'zannalee' or an 'i like it there' live from the man, but we barely ever (IF ever?) get anything live from emancipation. shrug
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Reply #58 posted 01/18/07 11:28am

CosmicTalk

Anx said:

CosmicTalk said:



Not me. It was weak regardless of how it was pushed and/or marketed. You can tell it was filler trash because later that year he dropped Emancipation and that blew away C&D with ease.


which i guess is why every once in a while we'll get a 'zannalee' or an 'i like it there' live from the man, but we barely ever (IF ever?) get anything live from emancipation. shrug


You surely aren't using that as reason are you? Especially from a man that has hundreds of songs to choose from at any given moment to play? Also, how come there was better material on Emancipation than on C&D? Chance? Luck?

How come he didn't promote C&D besides the required video and talk show circuit yet he went full blast on Emancipation? Prince knew C&D was filler/contractual obligation to the Warner Plantation, that's why
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Reply #59 posted 01/18/07 11:41am

Anx

CosmicTalk said:

Anx said:



which i guess is why every once in a while we'll get a 'zannalee' or an 'i like it there' live from the man, but we barely ever (IF ever?) get anything live from emancipation. shrug


You surely aren't using that as reason are you? Especially from a man that has hundreds of songs to choose from at any given moment to play? Also, how come there was better material on Emancipation than on C&D? Chance? Luck?

How come he didn't promote C&D besides the required video and talk show circuit yet he went full blast on Emancipation? Prince knew C&D was filler/contractual obligation to the Warner Plantation, that's why


that's business, not music.

why would prince purposefully release BAD MUSIC? he has a legacy to protect. he could have done something like lou reed's 'metal machine music' and just recorded two discs of guitar feedback and said "here, merry christmas"...but he didn't. he could have given WB a jacked-up new wave album to end his contract like neil young did, but he didn't.

i think you're judging C&D on every level but the quality of the music.
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