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Reply #30 posted 01/15/07 1:42pm

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I'd say I fall under 1 or more of the above categories...
"Spiritual noise" as u call it, is almost a constant, in 1 wya or another, and is the essence of what makes 1 question these things day 2 day..unless of course they've come 2 some CONclusion...
Princes delivery of his lil portion of it (...and what a delivery) should b enjoyable in most cases, unless of course it's a completely conflicting view 2 Ur own.
In my opinion, the music is spiritual noise in itself. cool


Those fanatics among U will know that when I say 'Spiritual Noise' im actually quoting Morris Day from the motion picture 'Grafitti Bridge' geek
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Reply #31 posted 01/15/07 1:44pm

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:



ThankQ...will U go 2 bed with me smile


I can't, I'm not a sexy Aunty... razz


Not even 4 a Scooby Snack neutral
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Reply #32 posted 01/15/07 1:45pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

UCantHavaDaMango said:



I can't, I'm not a sexy Aunty... razz


Not even 4 a Scooby Snack neutral


Too many carbs... lol
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Reply #33 posted 01/15/07 1:50pm

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Reading over the responses Id have 2 say that it seems the supposed 'spirit of the Lord' that some people say runs deep in Prince songs are in fact no more than just good uplifting music...there's no mysticism involved and indeed P himself can be very contrived in expressing his emotions during 'religious' performances...


Anywho, I say religion sucks but God is alive.. In my humble opinion a person is not stupid but PEOPLE are...once a 'mob' gets 2gether n starts up a doctrine of beliefs n practices things are bound 2 turn ugly...2 quote a song...find yer own personal Jesus biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 01/15/07 1:54pm

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UCantHavaDaMango said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:



Not even 4 a Scooby Snack neutral


Too many carbs... lol


better 2 be hungry than fat huh?


Sure I can't tempt U smile

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Reply #35 posted 01/15/07 1:59pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

UCantHavaDaMango said:



Too many carbs... lol


better 2 be hungry than fat huh?


Sure I can't tempt U smile



lol

I'm afraid that a 6'3" Irish man with a temper would keep ANYTHING of that nature from happening.

Anyway...back to God in Prince's music...
[Edited 1/15/07 14:00pm]
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Reply #36 posted 01/16/07 12:20am

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Anx said:

i appreciate them because he's singing about something he believes in with sincerity. it could be his religion or his dog or his sock collection, for all i care. i enjoy that he performs it with passion and meaning. it doesn't matter that it's not exactly the same as what i believe. i can take something from the feeling of it.

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Exactly how I feel about it. I disagree with the position or the angle taken by a lot of my faves artists on a lot of topics, but providing it's not something grossly offensive, if it's something they really believe in or really enjoy, I can get into it.

I don't want to think about how limited my CD collection would be if I only listened to music by people I agree with at all times. confused
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Reply #37 posted 01/16/07 3:11am

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meow85 said:

Anx said:

i appreciate them because he's singing about something he believes in with sincerity. it could be his religion or his dog or his sock collection, for all i care. i enjoy that he performs it with passion and meaning. it doesn't matter that it's not exactly the same as what i believe. i can take something from the feeling of it.

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Exactly how I feel about it. I disagree with the position or the angle taken by a lot of my faves artists on a lot of topics, but providing it's not something grossly offensive, if it's something they really believe in or really enjoy, I can get into it.

I don't want to think about how limited my CD collection would be if I only listened to music by people I agree with at all times. confused


True & I c where Ur coming from but don't U think some or most of the emotion and appreciation you feel being an aethist listening 2 'Christian' Prince music is ultimately lost by your lack of belief....regardless of your abundance of musical appreciation.

Isn't it just like me, who speaks no Chinese...watching a Chinese comedy---even though I laugh at the slap-stick, at the facial expressions etc....I can never really appreciate the comedy cos I can't understand the language....isnt it the same 4 non-believers who can't understand the Word of God neutral
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Reply #38 posted 01/16/07 3:25am

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I was raised a strict Catholic growing up so God was big part of my conciousness, then I went through a rebellious time where I rejected anything spirtual and didn't want anything spirtual in my life...needless to say I stopped listening to Prince's music at this time. Things like drugs, abusive men, messed up friends, that kind of lifestyle really doesn't allow for much positivity in your life. When you give that stuff up you really see how stuff like that clouds your judgement.

But I don't consider myself a Catholic anymore but I've come full circle again with accepting God and spirtuality in my life again and study spirituality in my own independent way. Haven't found a religion I've felt comfortable enough to subscribe to yet, don't know I ever will. But getting back into Prince's music again really has given me hope and happiness that there is someone with huge influence out there who knows and teaches that God, love, happiness. positivity is important and something that people should embrace without embarrassment. Prince always did his own thing related to the spirtual world and was always outspoken about it and I really respect that.
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Reply #39 posted 01/16/07 4:08am

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I've always wondered how people in2 Prince feel when he makes his 'spiritual noise'

If their not a believer do they still get in2 songs like The Cross, The Holy River, Anna Stesia, God, Tears In Ur eyes etc.. I mean do they sing along to the words cos they like Prince or do the words like "Long ago there was a man, who changed stone 2 bread with a touch of his hand" mean anything 2 them?

Im curious neutral


I sing along to Anna Stesia because I find it amusing....."Have you ever wanted to play with someone so bad you'd take anyone boy or girl"...."Save me Jesus I've been a fool.....You are my God, I am your child, from now on for you I shall be wild."

The Cross is rock and roll at it's best. Tears in your eyes is nice and mellow acoustics. Never liked Holy River though.

It's not about the lyrics or my non-belief in Christianity on my part, to me it's all about the music.

I love good music no matter what. I listen to Manson, sing along and love some of his music, but I do not and will not ever in my life worship Satan.

Do you understand?
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Reply #40 posted 01/16/07 4:37am

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I am not a believer but I dig his spiritual songs very much.
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Reply #41 posted 01/16/07 5:17am

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Krystal666 said:

I was raised a strict Catholic growing up so God was big part of my conciousness, then I went through a rebellious time where I rejected anything spirtual and didn't want anything spirtual in my life...needless to say I stopped listening to Prince's music at this time. Things like drugs, abusive men, messed up friends, that kind of lifestyle really doesn't allow for much positivity in your life. When you give that stuff up you really see how stuff like that clouds your judgement.

But I don't consider myself a Catholic anymore but I've come full circle again with accepting God and spirtuality in my life again and study spirituality in my own independent way. Haven't found a religion I've felt comfortable enough to subscribe to yet, don't know I ever will. But getting back into Prince's music again really has given me hope and happiness that there is someone with huge influence out there who knows and teaches that God, love, happiness. positivity is important and something that people should embrace without embarrassment. Prince always did his own thing related to the spirtual world and was always outspoken about it and I really respect that.



Im feelin' that...In 1988 Prince had 40,000 people in a stadium singing 'Love is God, God is Love' thats inspiring...

It pisses me off when people say they want P too sing about sex, incest and bling again cos it just means they don't get he's found a higher kind of happiness...'without the help of a Magherita or ecstacy' he's ona spiritual trip you only get from God..IMO, and y'all are missing out if you can't feel when you hear that music...again..imo smoker
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Reply #42 posted 01/16/07 7:50am

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i appreciate them because he's singing about something he believes in with sincerity. it could be his religion or his dog or his sock collection, for all i care. i enjoy that he performs it with passion and meaning. it doesn't matter that it's not exactly the same as what i believe. i can take something from the feeling of it.


Ditto
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Reply #43 posted 01/16/07 8:51am

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vivid said:

Anx said:

i appreciate them because he's singing about something he believes in with sincerity. it could be his religion or his dog or his sock collection, for all i care. i enjoy that he performs it with passion and meaning. it doesn't matter that it's not exactly the same as what i believe. i can take something from the feeling of it.


Ditto



Yes but the problem with that is that if you don't get in2 the message of the song you kinda get lost...

Take the song 'head' & 'jack U Off' how less effective are thoose songs if Ur not in2 giving head n' jacking off Ur lover neutral
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Reply #44 posted 01/17/07 9:56pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

meow85 said:


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Exactly how I feel about it. I disagree with the position or the angle taken by a lot of my faves artists on a lot of topics, but providing it's not something grossly offensive, if it's something they really believe in or really enjoy, I can get into it.

I don't want to think about how limited my CD collection would be if I only listened to music by people I agree with at all times. confused


True & I c where Ur coming from but don't U think some or most of the emotion and appreciation you feel being an aethist listening 2 'Christian' Prince music is ultimately lost by your lack of belief....regardless of your abundance of musical appreciation.

Isn't it just like me, who speaks no Chinese...watching a Chinese comedy---even though I laugh at the slap-stick, at the facial expressions etc....I can never really appreciate the comedy cos I can't understand the language....isnt it the same 4 non-believers who can't understand the Word of God neutral
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I do understand "the language", as you put it, of faith, though continuing with your analogy, you could say I have a different spiritual accent. I don't consider myself Christian by any stretch. I consider myself agnostic in very loose terms because I lean more heavily toward the chances of there existing a Divine Being, and I was raised going to church. I certainly don't believe as Prince does, and from what I understand from your posts, not as you do either.

I don't think I miss any of the feeling of Prince -or anybody else's -spiritual music anymore than I miss the feeling when I've witnessed services by and for other faiths. That is to say, I don't. I may not share in the belief or even understand the complex meanings and histories of the ritual, but that doesn't make the emotion and the spirit behind the devotion lost on me, either. Let me ask you this: When you hear a love song written for a specific person, do you miss any of the feeling because it's not written for you?
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Reply #45 posted 01/17/07 10:03pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

vivid said:



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Yes but the problem with that is that if you don't get in2 the message of the song you kinda get lost...

Take the song 'head' & 'jack U Off' how less effective are thoose songs if Ur not in2 giving head n' jacking off Ur lover neutral


No less effective. I don't like giving handjobs, and I still like the song. lol
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Reply #46 posted 01/18/07 2:36am

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meow85 said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:




Yes but the problem with that is that if you don't get in2 the message of the song you kinda get lost...

Take the song 'head' & 'jack U Off' how less effective are thoose songs if Ur not in2 giving head n' jacking off Ur lover neutral


No less effective. I don't like giving handjobs, and I still like the song. lol

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Reply #47 posted 01/18/07 8:57am

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I'm a spiritual person although I do not subscribe 2 any particular religion; not anymore, anyway. I don't have a problem with Prince's spiritual songs but I admit 2 being turned off when he overtly expresses his beliefs in concerts just like he did at his One Night Alone tour. That said, that was the best Prince concert I've been to, thus far, and TRC is my favorite Prince album in recent years (and I've been a fan since 1984).
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Reply #48 posted 01/18/07 11:57am

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rainbowchild said:

I'm a spiritual person although I do not subscribe 2 any particular religion; not anymore, anyway. I don't have a problem with Prince's spiritual songs but I admit 2 being turned off when he overtly expresses his beliefs in concerts just like he did at his One Night Alone tour. That said, that was the best Prince concert I've been to, thus far, and TRC is my favorite Prince album in recent years (and I've been a fan since 1984).



Kinda like ignoring the Swatzika cos U dig the national anthem of the Third reich aint it? neutral
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Reply #49 posted 01/18/07 12:01pm

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when it was in small amounts, i didn't mind his spiritual aspects of music. as well, it was not preachy and dogmatic for the most part- more spiritual and open to all and positive.

TRC changed that. it became preachy, dogmatic, mean, pushy, and the balance of it swung from some to most.

the moment really dawned on me when i was listening to his ranting about that theocratic order crap. i was like "at what point did my cd player switch from prince to a preacher?
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Reply #50 posted 01/18/07 12:12pm

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I've always wondered how people in2 Prince feel when he makes his 'spiritual noise'

If their not a believer do they still get in2 songs like The Cross, The Holy River, Anna Stesia, God, Tears In Ur eyes etc.. I mean do they sing along to the words cos they like Prince or do the words like "Long ago there was a man, who changed stone 2 bread with a touch of his hand" mean anything 2 them?

Im curious neutral


I'm curious too.
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Reply #51 posted 01/18/07 12:31pm

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As a former Christian, and now a Jew, I can understand his strength in his beliefs/faith, but I view the songs as I do most of the Bible: a pleasant story intended to convey a moral message. Please don't flame me, as I certainly don't mean to offend anyone.

I absolutely think that everyone should worship the way that they want to, and Prince in part does this through his music. That said, when it becomes the overarching theme of the whole album (TRC), I do get turned off because I do not want to be subjected to a conversion attempt while listening to music (which I do to relax). For that reason, TRC is the only album that I don't own. I bought it, listened a few times, then donated it to the library.
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Reply #52 posted 01/18/07 1:12pm

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alexadeparisone said:

As a former Christian, and now a Jew, I can understand his strength in his beliefs/faith, but I view the songs as I do most of the Bible: a pleasant story intended to convey a moral message. Please don't flame me, as I certainly don't mean to offend anyone.

I absolutely think that everyone should worship the way that they want to, and Prince in part does this through his music. That said, when it becomes the overarching theme of the whole album (TRC), I do get turned off because I do not want to be subjected to a conversion attempt while listening to music (which I do to relax). For that reason, TRC is the only album that I don't own. I bought it, listened a few times, then donated it to the library.



3 Q's..

Why'd U stop being a Christian?

Can some1 become Jewish?

Do u really feel P is worshipping as he writes, plays n performs?
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Reply #53 posted 01/19/07 1:24pm

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1) a variety of reasons, some personal of course, but essentially, I never felt it was the right religion for me and I guess I never totally bought into the complete story of Jesus.

2) Yes, we are called "Jews by choice" or by some, a "ger". You can convert to Judaism just like any other religion. I am a Reform Jew, but I could not become Orthodox, because my mother would have to be Jewish.Once you convert, they don't treat you any differently than a born Jew.

3) Yes. He is using his talent to sing a song about God. How different is that from him singing in the choir at Church? It's sort of the same to me.
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Reply #54 posted 01/19/07 3:40pm

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when it was in small amounts, i didn't mind his spiritual aspects of music. as well, it was not preachy and dogmatic for the most part- more spiritual and open to all and positive.

TRC changed that. it became preachy, dogmatic, mean, pushy, and the balance of it swung from some to most.

the moment really dawned on me when i was listening to his ranting about that theocratic order crap. i was like "at what point did my cd player switch from prince to a preacher?
[Edited 1/18/07 12:04pm]

That sums it up pretty well neutral ...
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Reply #55 posted 01/19/07 3:45pm

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I love all those songs u mentioned. It doesn't bother me.
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Reply #56 posted 01/19/07 4:14pm

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sexyAuntyFuka said:

I've always wondered how people in2 Prince feel when he makes his 'spiritual noise'

If their not a believer do they still get in2 songs like The Cross, The Holy River, Anna Stesia, God, Tears In Ur eyes etc.. I mean do they sing along to the words cos they like Prince or do the words like "Long ago there was a man, who changed stone 2 bread with a touch of his hand" mean anything 2 them?

Im curious neutral

Whenever I sing along to the line,
"I seriously want to fuck the taste outta your mouth "
it's just cuz I'm into the words.

Or I'm watching some vintage Nina Hartley porn.
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Reply #57 posted 01/20/07 6:25am

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Illustrator said:

sexyAuntyFuka said:

I've always wondered how people in2 Prince feel when he makes his 'spiritual noise'

If their not a believer do they still get in2 songs like The Cross, The Holy River, Anna Stesia, God, Tears In Ur eyes etc.. I mean do they sing along to the words cos they like Prince or do the words like "Long ago there was a man, who changed stone 2 bread with a touch of his hand" mean anything 2 them?

Im curious neutral

Whenever I sing along to the line,
"I seriously want to fuck the taste outta your mouth "
it's just cuz I'm into the words.

Or I'm watching some vintage Nina Hartley porn.



Nina Hartley rules...one of the best butts in the biz biggrin
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