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Reply #60 posted 01/04/07 1:57pm

Funkmaster3000

Prince has evolved overtime to this funk king.In the 1980s prince was good but not a funk king.He was a pop king.Prince is more talented than he's ever been right know.Know kids don't understand him know a days that's why he;s not on Mtv as much know than he was before but he on vh1 1 usually once a week and vh2
3 times a week.Ane the ocassional appearense on Mtv. KNnow he if you like pop more than funk you probally will be let down in the coming years.But if like a mixture of funk and pop you are happy with albums like 3121,dp,musicology,sigh o the times,batman,come ,black album,love sexy ect..But I also love purple rain and ect...I predict in 30 years prince will be able to play 300 insturments and will be the most talented musican to ever live.
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Reply #61 posted 01/04/07 5:28pm

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Anx said:

didn't he already come back in 2004?

he's a huge enormous star now. he's part of the establishment. he could putz around for the rest of his life and still be considered a major music legend.

comeback, schmomeback!



EXACTLY!!!!!
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Reply #62 posted 01/04/07 5:34pm

vinaysfunk

A small note to the starter of this thread. He', at this point, above a "comeback" He's done it all and there's nothing left to prove. It's all downhill for him now, he can do whatever and whenever he pleases. Respect is among us and a lot of people in the music biz.
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Reply #63 posted 01/04/07 5:40pm

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In this day and age of cable tv, internet, video games, on demand movies, etc etc. noone will ever be able to capture the whole world like Prince, Michael J and Madonna did in the 80's. A movie and soundtrack like "Purple Rain" taking over the charts for a whole summer will never happen again, we move too fast now and too much product.

The moment when the whole world watched Michael do the moonwalk on Motown 25 could never happen now either. Theres too many other things to do and watch instead of watching one of 3 channels that most people had back then. Shit I had an antenna on my roof with a dial to change the channel when I watched Motown 25!
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Reply #64 posted 01/04/07 6:02pm

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skywalker said:

In terms of mainstream popularity, Prince has been as famous as he as ever been, except 1984, from 2004 to 2006. I would argue that Prince has a higher profile now then he did during Batman or Diamonds & Pearls.


Agreed - he had more magazine covers and TV appearances in 2004 than basically his ENTIRE career prior. 2004/Musicology was his comeback.
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Reply #65 posted 01/04/07 6:18pm

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cool Prince does not have to make a comeback. What do he have to prove? In the last 2 years & still counting, Prince has been just as big as he was in the mid 80's.
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Reply #66 posted 01/04/07 7:54pm

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mellow1 said:

cool Prince does not have to make a comeback. What do he have to prove? In the last 2 years & still counting, Prince has been just as big as he was in the mid 80's.


Exactly. People seem to view Prince through "Purple Rain" glasses. Aside from PR, he was never really that mainstream when compared to other artists, and he also never had PR-level sales again.

We never cared about comebacks before . . . why now? I'd rather he just keep releasing cool music for us instead of catering to celebrities at 3121.
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Reply #67 posted 01/05/07 12:25am

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Spookymuffin said:

Anx said:

i think he's gotten too comfortable with his second-guessy/produce-and-edit-everything-to-death mode of recording music, rather than going for the kamikaze marathon recording session/just make it sound pretty and release it approach.


Yes, and it's disgraceful that he's let himself go from someone who released demo tapes as a full album to this. It's almost as if he's been a hypocrite.



nod couldn't have said it better. When Prince just lets something fly, it's always so much better. All his truly great albums (not necessarily those held as great in the public eye) adhere to this.

Anx said:

of course, prince would probably rather chew off a limb than do anything understated anymore, so whatever. sigh


I know, the chump. He's gone on and on about how restrictive the record labels are and how, for him, they are just business and not about music. Well now who's about business, Mr. Vegas? Eh?! Fucking idiot.

more to rant about edit
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Co-everything, sadly.

sigh
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Reply #68 posted 01/05/07 12:30am

meow85

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1sexymf said:

Zogmuffin said:



That really does disgust me. lol No words can show how angry it makes me that he's done that. He'll be there forever, and that new year's eve thing was a joke! What a rip-off.



I was surprised at him myself. I wouldn't mind seeing him there since it's a small venue but that's probably not gonna happen unless he stays until March or April.

As for New Year's Eve - Please - $1,000.00? Get real. That was an insult.

nod

Fans will be fans, but I really don't get the people who are licking his asshole about this Vegas gig. I know Prince is the queen of hypocrisy, but that doesn't stop me from being disappointed. It's really hard to justify much of what he's done lately in light of his 90's "Slave" histrionics, except to say I hope he's happy with that paycheque.
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Reply #69 posted 01/05/07 12:32am

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Imago said:

meow85 said:


falloff


So, SO wrong.


One minute he's the bad boy of rock n roll, the next minute he's the Tammy Faye of Pop music. sigh


They've probably got the same size makeup bill.
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Reply #70 posted 01/05/07 2:30am

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Spookymuffin said:

VenusBlingBling said:



Agreed. All or most of you people who say he's made a huge comeback think only of the US and forget to consider other parts of the world. Abroad, I practically never hear him being played on the radio, see his new videos on tv, read about him or anything. When I talk to people no one, except die hard fans, knows about his latest albums and singles that have been released since The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. And the Super Bowl is big in the US but that's it. No one in Europe cares about it.


So true. nod

Outside of the US, Prince is dead. Anyone who says otherwise is disillusioned.

I know, I'm a british teenager. If he was big, my age group would be listening to him. They're not. They still think he's gay, and some think he's actually dead.

Also true about the Superbowl. What the fuck is that to any country that doesn't play American Football? i.e. the rest of the world. And no one else will see it, either.

I used to wish he'd come back big and show all of England how much he deserved fame, but having seen how he comes back I wish he never had. I wish he'd kept laying low and being viewed as this freak, because it kept his ego down, and kept him experimenting, which at least meant he was releasing something vaguely interesting, which now he most certainly isn't.


Prince still has a lot of fans and respect music press in the England. And I'm sure Prince could sell out a few concerts at Wembley Arena, if he could be botherd to promote his music, both past and present in England and Europe.

But I agree that the sad truth is Prince and is dead ie not a name of most of the public think of. Prince's last of albums in the USA have been successful, but in England they sunk without a trace. Prince hasn't been a high profile artist in England since 1994-95 when he was still with Warner Bros. I don't think Prince's performance at the SuperBowl will raise his profile that high in Europe as most of Europe as no intrest in American FootBall (as we call it in England).
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Reply #71 posted 01/05/07 2:35am

Spookymuffin

Isolar said:

Spookymuffin said:



So true. nod

Outside of the US, Prince is dead. Anyone who says otherwise is disillusioned.

I know, I'm a british teenager. If he was big, my age group would be listening to him. They're not. They still think he's gay, and some think he's actually dead.

Also true about the Superbowl. What the fuck is that to any country that doesn't play American Football? i.e. the rest of the world. And no one else will see it, either.

I used to wish he'd come back big and show all of England how much he deserved fame, but having seen how he comes back I wish he never had. I wish he'd kept laying low and being viewed as this freak, because it kept his ego down, and kept him experimenting, which at least meant he was releasing something vaguely interesting, which now he most certainly isn't.


Prince still has a lot of fans and respect music press in the England. And I'm sure Prince could sell out a few concerts at Wembley Arena, if he could be botherd to promote his music, both past and present in England and Europe.

But I agree that the sad truth is Prince and is dead ie not a name of most of the public think of. Prince's last of albums in the USA have been successful, but in England they sunk without a trace. Prince hasn't been a high profile artist in England since 1994-95 when he was still with Warner Bros. I don't think Prince's performance at the SuperBowl will raise his profile that high in Europe as most of Europe as no intrest in American FootBall (as we call it in England).


He'd sell out a gig because he has enough desperate, bloodthirsty fans around in England to acheive this, but whilst he is respected by music critics he is nothing to the public.

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Reply #72 posted 01/05/07 2:36am

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mellow1 said:

cool Prince does not have to make a comeback. What do he have to prove? In the last 2 years & still counting, Prince has been just as big as he was in the mid 80's.


Complete bullshit.
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Reply #73 posted 01/05/07 5:41am

wlcm2thdwn

I f Prince cared about those outside of the US He probably would have been back over there by now! Aren't you forigners the ones he's threatening to sue anyway? Not the fansites in America!
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Reply #74 posted 01/05/07 5:47am

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I f Prince cared about those outside of the US He probably would have been back over there by now! Aren't you forigners the ones he's threatening to sue anyway? Not the fansites in America!


hmm it has nothing to do with him caring; the fact is that his shows would struggle to sellout in England if he played for more than 2 nights in any one place.
and he isn't suing websites because they're european; that's an unbelievably ignorant and stupid thing to say.
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Reply #75 posted 01/05/07 6:07am

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Anx said:

does MTV even matter anymore?


EXACTLY! I don't even think MTV shows video 95% of the day
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Reply #76 posted 01/05/07 6:10am

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NO... he just ain't cool anymore... celebrities once were famous for being intresting not intresting for being famous...and sadly unless you are someone that sells now(due to shallow world of commercialism) you ain't gonna be a star, even if you scream and shout.
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Reply #77 posted 01/05/07 6:11am

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Spookymuffin said:

wlcm2thdwn said:

I f Prince cared about those outside of the US He probably would have been back over there by now! Aren't you forigners the ones he's threatening to sue anyway? Not the fansites in America!


hmm it has nothing to do with him caring; the fact is that his shows would struggle to sellout in England if he played for more than 2 nights in any one place.
and he isn't suing websites because they're european; that's an unbelievably ignorant and stupid thing to say.

Ignorant and stupid but true lol
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Reply #78 posted 01/05/07 6:17am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Spookymuffin said:



hmm it has nothing to do with him caring; the fact is that his shows would struggle to sellout in England if he played for more than 2 nights in any one place.
and he isn't suing websites because they're european; that's an unbelievably ignorant and stupid thing to say.

Ignorant and stupid but true lol


No! The sites were/are being legitimately sued for copyright infringement; someting which Prince.org has been incredibly careful to avoid doing for years now, which is why it isn't being. It's nothing to do with location, or being European, how could you even think that?!
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Reply #79 posted 01/05/07 10:40am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

Spookymuffin said:



hmm it has nothing to do with him caring; the fact is that his shows would struggle to sellout in England if he played for more than 2 nights in any one place.
and he isn't suing websites because they're european; that's an unbelievably ignorant and stupid thing to say.

Ignorant and stupid but true lol

mad What the heck?! Don't let this become an "America against the rest of the world"- thing now. I hardly think that Prince thinks that way so unless you, wlcm2thdwn, have talken to the man himself it's a childish statement to make.
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Reply #80 posted 01/05/07 11:03am

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VenusBlingBling said:

wlcm2thdwn said:


Ignorant and stupid but true lol

mad What the heck?! Don't let this become an "America against the rest of the world"- thing now. I hardly think that Prince thinks that way so unless you, wlcm2thdwn, have talken to the man himself it's a childish statement to make.

biggrin exactly.
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Reply #81 posted 01/05/07 5:23pm

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Zogmuffin said:

vainandy said:

Prince will never be as big as he used to be. Even if he sells out to the shit hop sound and has a hit, he still will not be loved by the general public these days because he doesn't have the shit hop look. And even if he tried to get the look, he would look like a damn fool. For Prince, or any other good artist, to be big, shit hop has to go out of style.


I agree, to an extent.

In the UK shithop is not at all cool or successfull outside the chav community. It's the resurgance of Britrock in all its glorious forms that is doing amazingly over here; indie, punk, new rave - it's all quite awesome to be honest, I love that it's back - there's so many gigs on it's brilliant, but I digress. Prince could become shit hot again if he found his place. smile He'd get more respect and he'd make better music.



man that sounds so cool.. thats it im moving out there! a place where rock rules again? awesome!
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #82 posted 01/05/07 5:25pm

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Prince needs an artistic comeback and not a commercial comeback
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #83 posted 01/05/07 6:39pm

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Zogmuffin said:



I agree, to an extent.

In the UK shithop is not at all cool or successfull outside the chav community. It's the resurgance of Britrock in all its glorious forms that is doing amazingly over here; indie, punk, new rave - it's all quite awesome to be honest, I love that it's back - there's so many gigs on it's brilliant, but I digress. Prince could become shit hot again if he found his place. smile He'd get more respect and he'd make better music.



man that sounds so cool.. thats it im moving out there! a place where rock rules again? awesome!


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Reply #84 posted 01/05/07 8:46pm

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No, I think Prince forever will be lost in the obscurity of performing on awards shows, at the Super Bowl, at sellout concert tours and wherever he decides to set up shop.

The poor fella.
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Reply #85 posted 01/15/07 9:49am

jody3

tina's comeback was bigger than she had ever been.....does not qualify as a comeback
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Reply #86 posted 01/15/07 5:01pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Spookymuffin said:

He'll never make a comeback in England, that's for sure. Especially if he carries on outputting his current tripe.

Also, if he's going to have a comeback in America, he's having it right now. It won't get bigger. He's too old, and his music's lost. He'll never make rock again.


Agreed. All or most of you people who say he's made a huge comeback think only of the US and forget to consider other parts of the world. Abroad, I practically never hear him being played on the radio, see his new videos on tv, read about him or anything. When I talk to people no one, except die hard fans, knows about his latest albums and singles that have been released since The Most Beautiful Girl In The World. And the Super Bowl is big in the US but that's it. No one in Europe cares about it.


"And the Super Bowl is big in the US but that's it."

Ain't that a crock a bull... The Super Bowl is the Biggest Watched a Event in The World, according to Statistics!

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Reply #87 posted 01/15/07 5:15pm

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He should do a movie....he's a good actor.
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Reply #88 posted 01/15/07 7:13pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Like Tina Turner's comeback in 1984. Or rather, does anyone here think that Prince will ever go back to being as big as he was in the 80's, in terms of publicity (worldwide), sold records, etc.? Why, why not?


I really don't care if he does or not.

He has already done soo much with his music and for me musically that I will appreciate him and his music no matter how his appeal falters or strengthens in the future.

His music will always live on in my ears.....he hasn't gone anywhere....
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