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Thread started 12/25/06 4:15am

SS4GOKU

PRINCE AND JAMES BROWN

Just like many artist r influenced by Prince, what influences do u think Prince got from James Brown? Because i feel if the world didn't have the God Father of Soul, Prince's music would be different..hint the song "IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL NIGHT" just to point out a few song tha sound like James, including cover songs he's done of James B.I think James is as be of the biggest influences to Prince just as Sly Stone is...look at the set up and sound of Revolution and the Sign 'o the Times and LoveSexy bands from 1985 to 1989 it's all James Brown.
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Reply #1 posted 12/25/06 4:41am

SpcMs

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Isn't there a video of JB, Prince and MJ where Prince makes a total ass of himself?

dunce
"It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."

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Reply #2 posted 12/25/06 4:44am

Number23

It's there in everything, really. And it's not always the sound either. It's more about the attitude and being so audacious, bold and forthright you convince others you are a demigod when you're really flesh and blood and full of fear, superstition and unbelieveable lies like everyone else.
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Reply #3 posted 12/25/06 4:46am

SS4GOKU

Number23 said:

It's there in everything, really. And it's not always the sound either. It's more about the attitude and being so audacious, bold and forthright you convince others you are a demigod when you're really flesh and blood and full of fear, superstition and unbelieveable lies like everyone else.



I totally agree.
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Reply #4 posted 12/25/06 4:54am

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SpcMs said:

Isn't there a video of JB, Prince and MJ where Prince makes a total ass of himself?

dunce


Yes I've seen it on YT.com a while back. James Brown is grooving on stage, and invites a young Michael Jackson up on stage to do his thang. MJ goes up and does some cool moves and shrieks. Then he takes a backstep and JB calls out to Prince to come join them. Prince comes on stage looking like he did during the DARLING NIKKI performance from Purple Rain. He does some funky moves, and flips the microphone stand. Then if I remember rightly, he falls off the side of the stage or something. I think he's quite wasted in the clip.
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Reply #5 posted 12/25/06 5:54am

datdude

prince would've had to invent funk himself if it weren't for JB. i remember me'shell ndege said a while ago, "if elvis was the king, what does that make, JB, f@*#ing god?!" true pioneer. template for great bands, band leadership, etc. his grooves live on. its why prince has maceo now.
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Reply #6 posted 12/25/06 6:59am

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Prince loved James Brown, he took a lot of his on stage presents from him and said that JB was the first pro entertainer he went to see in concert. This is all too sad."Pretty Man" on the Rave cd was a James Brown song!
[Edited 12/25/06 7:00am]
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Reply #7 posted 12/25/06 10:47am

Raajput

wlcm2thdwn said:

Prince loved James Brown, he took a lot of his on stage presents from him and said that JB was the first pro entertainer he went to see in concert. This is all too sad."Pretty Man" on the Rave cd was a James Brown song!
[Edited 12/25/06 7:00am]


What about The Work Pt1

That has JB all over it, JB was a true soul survivor, just a few lines of hes life story are enough to see that.

Pop stars today do not know what its like to be poor, JB sung about this and not the riches he had.

Unlike P he knew who he was from day one, i will leave it at that and say no more!
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Reply #8 posted 12/25/06 12:35pm

MrHappyRave4

SpcMs said:

Isn't there a video of JB, Prince and MJ where Prince makes a total ass of himself?

dunce


This clip of him is gonna end up like the one clip of the ol' 70s Sat. afternoon sports show, where they constantly show the clip of the guy skiing and taking a nasty tumble.

Which makes me think that the people who put on shows that allow nasty clips like that are actually getting their reputation from such clips. What a way to get your fame - by televising constantly a bad moment a person is having. But whatever it takes to get along these days, huh? If we can have people hip-hoppin' and rapping about how much money they got and what the wheels on their car can do, and "I'll beat you up if you don't like my beats, and other stupid, pointless bull-ishn*t, it's all fair game, huh? chainsaw
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Reply #9 posted 12/25/06 7:14pm

cutn

how long until a James Brown movie? who should play him? his early days were right here in my town, the nasty natti
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Reply #10 posted 12/25/06 11:59pm

coolcat

datdude said:

prince would've had to invent funk himself if it weren't for JB. i remember me'shell ndege said a while ago, "if elvis was the king, what does that make, JB, f@*#ing god?!" true pioneer. template for great bands, band leadership, etc. his grooves live on. its why prince has maceo now.


Exactly... no JB -> no funk -> no Prince as we know him today.
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Reply #11 posted 12/26/06 5:34am

christos7

Has Prince ever p4med I'm A Greedy Man? boxed

lol
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Reply #12 posted 12/26/06 5:42am

SS4GOKU

wlcm2thdwn said:

Prince loved James Brown, he took a lot of his on stage presents from him and said that JB was the first pro entertainer he went to see in concert. This is all too sad."Pretty Man" on the Rave cd was a James Brown song!
[Edited 12/25/06 7:00am]

So was HouseQuake and Sexy M.F.
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Reply #13 posted 12/26/06 6:06am

ElectricBlue

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Rap & Producing in general.

Keyboard beats, Loops, tons of Vocal Tracks, etc..

Prince in producing is where he has influienced the most! Listen to lets say Pop music & or Rap in the early 1980's. Now listen to Prince music in the early 1980's.

Now listen to producing a few years later & all the way up to this day.

Samples, Drums Loops, Keyboard Loops, Recording Style in general.
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Reply #14 posted 12/26/06 4:04pm

GLuv4U

wlcm2thdwn said:

Prince loved James Brown, he took a lot of his on stage presents from him and said that JB was the first pro entertainer he went to see in concert. This is all too sad."Pretty Man" on the Rave cd was a James Brown song!
[Edited 12/25/06 7:00am]

yes Prince incorporated some of James Browns personality, as well as others like Jimi Hendrix and Little Richard.
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Reply #15 posted 12/26/06 4:10pm

NDRU

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Prince is a blend of several major influences, including his own imagination. But there are times when his act is nearly identical to James.

I didn't notice this early on (i was just a stupid kid), but it became clearer as he moved more into leading a big band.
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Reply #16 posted 12/26/06 6:02pm

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SpcMs said:

Isn't there a video of JB, Prince and MJ where Prince makes a total ass of himself?

dunce


yes yes yes i have it. JB comes 2 find out mj and prince r both in the audience so he calls them up one at a time 2 do a lil somethin mj was cool cool he jus sang a lil verse and danced jb style prince.....on the other neutral hand first he took all day 2 come up on his body guard then he threw his glove in2 the audience and they threw back then he came up took a lil time gettin set up guitar solo was coo until he took his shirt off and he tried 2 dance but it didn't work out so he quit and his scream was hilarious and then.....it happened eek as he claps 2 the beat he walks off the stage tries to slide off and he knocks this pole over and it falls on him so he keeps going and he 4 got his jacket so jb brings it 2 him and that all i have of it.
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Reply #17 posted 12/26/06 9:46pm

Thumpinhard

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Isn't "Talkin Loud aint sayin nothin" from James ??
F we az a People R not.......
Then we az a people should B.....

UNITED 4 LOVE

THUMPER
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Reply #18 posted 12/27/06 7:01am

SS4GOKU

Thumpinhard said:

Isn't "Talkin Loud aint sayin nothin" from James ??

It sure is... biggrin
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Reply #19 posted 12/27/06 11:29am

2elijah

I'v always seen a major influence of James Brown all over Prince through his dancing and singing, all the way, especially in Prince's earlier performances.

The dance steps, the splits--definitely--the way he moved his feet so quickly when he danced/dances...and the screams--most definitely, without saying. Also, when he did "Housequake" that says it all. When he did "Forever in my life" in "Sign of the Times", the part where he plays like he's crying and screams and throws down the mic..and it sounds like he's taking you to church, definitely reminds me of when James Brown used to sing "Please, Please, Please"

Even Al Sharpton stated without James Brown there would be no Prince or MJ. He was a major influence on both of them. They all have one thing in common and that is they were all able to cross over racial lines with their music, which is a beautiful thing.






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James Brown 4 Ever..Godfather and King of Soul
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Reply #20 posted 12/27/06 12:00pm

NDRU

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I thought even Black Sweat was heavily James influenced--not the sound of the instrumentation (the synth & linn are all Prince), but the song itself, the rhythm of the lyrics, and the phrase "Black Sweat"
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Reply #21 posted 12/27/06 12:12pm

2elijah

NDRU said:

I thought even Black Sweat was heavily James influenced--not the sound of the instrumentation (the synth & linn are all Prince), but the song itself, the rhythm of the lyrics, and the phrase "Black Sweat"


You're right, I thought about that too when I was looking at some of James' video footage, does have that James Brown influence in it. James did put out a song called "Cold Sweat."


I remember also when the "Blues Brothers" characters emulated James Brown. Goes to show you how many people he touched with his music. I'm sure going to miss him, but his music will keep his spirit alive because he seemed to be such a lively spirit in life.
[Edited 12/27/06 12:14pm]
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