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PrintableAndGodCreatedWoman1 said: robertes71 said: Okay, thanks for the summary. I had figured that much out metalorange, I should have phrased my question differently. You get a kiss for being so sweet tho. 
What does everyone think it means in relation to Prince? Autobiographical in anyway, or just a story about the f-ed up lives of two made up people. Hmmm...wonder along with me... Yeah ... I'll wonder along with you. I'm thinking just a made up story. Kind of depressing. But I do like dancing to it. Maybe this is one of his "fantasy" songs he wrote during his high school years | |
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Good. It sounds like the hero in the song is really desperate, lonely and confused. I'd hate for him to still be in that state of mind as a grown adult. "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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robertes71 said: I'll have to listen to that again.
BTW, does anyone know what this song is about? "Doris" is Warner Bros. Records. | |
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robertes71 said: metalorange said: This song is about a rich woman hiring a gigalo/toy boy. He gives her sex, she pays for everything. This is why to me this song quickly wears thin - it's a pretty ugly story and it's so stripped down musically that it doesn't stand upto repeat plays. Okay, thanks for the summary. I had figured that much out metalorange, I should have phrased my question differently. You get a kiss for being so sweet tho.
What does everyone think it means in relation to Prince? Autobiographical in anyway, or just a story about the f-ed up lives of two made up people. Hmmm...wonder along with me... I think he's Doris. 
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Justin1972UK said: robertes71 said: I'll have to listen to that again.
BTW, does anyone know what this song is about? "Doris" is Warner Bros. Records. Interesting! "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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prodigalfan said: jdcxc said: I remember when a girlfriend pointed out the P-U-S-S-Y chant in the background of New Position (another great song that does not get enough love on the org!)
had to pull out my Parade CD to check for myself. I never knew that! fun being a new/renewed Prince fan... you discover something new everyday,  i thought it was "i can make u H-A-P-P-Y, i can make u real good" - something like that | |
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Snap said: prodigalfan said:
had to pull out my Parade CD to check for myself. I never knew that! fun being a new/renewed Prince fan... you discover something new everyday, i thought it was "i can make u H-A-P-P-Y, i can make u real good" - something like thatI'm pretty sure that is the actual lyric.  love is god, god is love, girls and boys love god above | |
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r1ghteousone said: Snap said: i thought it was "i can make u H-A-P-P-Y, i can make u real good" - something like thatI'm pretty sure that is the actual lyric. It's after that: Come on and let me do ya I wanna, I wanna do ya, do ya Honey, I can make U happy (I can make U H. A. P. P. Y.) Ooh, I can make it real good (So good) Honey, I won't be your pappy (P. U. S. S. Y.) But I'll do ya, I'll do ya, do ya, do ya, like a... Do ya, do ya like a good man should | |
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metalorange said: r1ghteousone said: I'm pretty sure that is the actual lyric. It's after that: Come on and let me do ya I wanna, I wanna do ya, do ya Honey, I can make U happy (I can make U H. A. P. P. Y.) Ooh, I can make it real good (So good) Honey, I won't be your pappy (P. U. S. S. Y.) But I'll do ya, I'll do ya, do ya, do ya, like a... Do ya, do ya like a good man should  ...I'll have 2 check this out. love is god, god is love, girls and boys love god above | |
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Just checked, he does say P-U-S-S-Y in the background.  love is god, god is love, girls and boys love god above | |
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metalorange said: r1ghteousone said: I'm pretty sure that is the actual lyric. It's after that: Come on and let me do ya I wanna, I wanna do ya, do ya Honey, I can make U happy (I can make U H. A. P. P. Y.) Ooh, I can make it real good (So good) Honey, I won't be your pappy (P. U. S. S. Y.) But I'll do ya, I'll do ya, do ya, do ya, like a... Do ya, do ya like a good man should Well , I'll be damned .
and it only took 20 years for someone to point that out to me. ...on a thread about Illusion Coma Pimp & Circumstance.  | |
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It kinda sounds like it...who knows... Everytime I comb my hair
Thoughts of you get in my eyes... Vous etes tres belle... | |
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loisclark88 said: It kinda sounds like it...who knows...
Everytime I comby my hair Thoughts of Liz Lampkin gets in my eyes "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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robertes71 said: metalorange said: This song is about a rich woman hiring a gigalo/toy boy. He gives her sex, she pays for everything. This is why to me this song quickly wears thin - it's a pretty ugly story and it's so stripped down musically that it doesn't stand upto repeat plays. Okay, thanks for the summary. I had figured that much out metalorange, I should have phrased my question differently. You get a kiss for being so sweet tho.
What does everyone think it means in relation to Prince? Autobiographical in anyway, or just a story about the f-ed up lives of two made up people. Hmmm...wonder along with me... To me, it's another one in a line of Prince songs totally conflicted about money and power. Like Bob George ("I pay the rent in this motherfucker and all you do is suck up food and heat"), Movie Star ("I like that money!"), and the whole Morris Day character, Prince usually employs a comic proxy--here, a rich bitch named Doris--to voice his love of money. When he's not camping it up he does a 180 and makes unconvincing anti-materialist statements like "Diamonds and Pearls," "Money Don't Matter," "Gold," "Face Down," "The One," and "Tangerine." That one line: "Some days I make a lot of money and give it all away" is so out of touch and out of place in a love song it uncomfortably reveals how, in the throes of heartache, he flees into his wealth. "Illusion Coma" at least grapples with the hard reality of business and pleasure. There's a specific trade going on: An aging matriarch gives a young stud a "crib in Paris" in exchange for the buzz of youthful romance. He teaches her how to "dance" and hips her to "the funk." It's practically a confession of how Prince would use his rich celebrity status to buy friends and women. In the song the young man cruelly derides his benefactor's fading looks, and takes advantage of her assets--only to be manipulated into signing a prenuptial agreement. Marrying an old rich hag may be quite a coup for a young junkie, but not with a prenup. It's a complicated little tale of cat and mouse, and it may well be a twisted, sex-reversed parable of him and Mayte. It's lurid, it's cynical, but also more real than lines like "If U're looking 4 a man who will share his deniro, look no further." | |
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padawan said: robertes71 said: Okay, thanks for the summary. I had figured that much out metalorange, I should have phrased my question differently. You get a kiss for being so sweet tho.
What does everyone think it means in relation to Prince? Autobiographical in anyway, or just a story about the f-ed up lives of two made up people. Hmmm...wonder along with me... To me, it's another one in a line of Prince songs totally conflicted about money and power. Like Bob George ("I pay the rent in this motherfucker and all you do is suck up food and heat"), Movie Star ("I like that money!"), and the whole Morris Day character, Prince usually employs a comic proxy--here, a rich bitch named Doris--to voice his love of money. When he's not camping it up he does a 180 and makes unconvincing anti-materialist statements like "Diamonds and Pearls," "Money Don't Matter," "Gold," "Face Down," "The One," and "Tangerine." That one line: "Some days I make a lot of money and give it all away" is so out of touch and out of place in a love song it uncomfortably reveals how, in the throes of heartache, he flees into his wealth. "Illusion Coma" at least grapples with the hard reality of business and pleasure. There's a specific trade going on: An aging matriarch gives a young stud a "crib in Paris" in exchange for the buzz of youthful romance. He teaches her how to "dance" and hips her to "the funk." It's practically a confession of how Prince would use his rich celebrity status to buy friends and women. In the song the young man cruelly derides his benefactor's fading looks, and takes advantage of her assets--only to be manipulated into signing a prenuptial agreement. Marrying an old rich hag may be quite a coup for a young junkie, but not with a prenup. It's a complicated little tale of cat and mouse, and it may well be a twisted, sex-reversed parable of him and Mayte. It's lurid, it's cynical, but also more real than lines like "If U're looking 4 a man who will share his deniro, look no further." So, is Prince the young man, or Flo? (And I don't mean that cruelly, but has anyone considered it?) "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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padawan said: robertes71 said: Okay, thanks for the summary. I had figured that much out metalorange, I should have phrased my question differently. You get a kiss for being so sweet tho.
What does everyone think it means in relation to Prince? Autobiographical in anyway, or just a story about the f-ed up lives of two made up people. Hmmm...wonder along with me... To me, it's another one in a line of Prince songs totally conflicted about money and power. Like Bob George ("I pay the rent in this motherfucker and all you do is suck up food and heat"), Movie Star ("I like that money!"), and the whole Morris Day character, Prince usually employs a comic proxy--here, a rich bitch named Doris--to voice his love of money. When he's not camping it up he does a 180 and makes unconvincing anti-materialist statements like "Diamonds and Pearls," "Money Don't Matter," "Gold," "Face Down," "The One," and "Tangerine." That one line: "Some days I make a lot of money and give it all away" is so out of touch and out of place in a love song it uncomfortably reveals how, in the throes of heartache, he flees into his wealth. "Illusion Coma" at least grapples with the hard reality of business and pleasure. There's a specific trade going on: An aging matriarch gives a young stud a "crib in Paris" in exchange for the buzz of youthful romance. He teaches her how to "dance" and hips her to "the funk." It's practically a confession of how Prince would use his rich celebrity status to buy friends and women. In the song the young man cruelly derides his benefactor's fading looks, and takes advantage of her assets--only to be manipulated into signing a prenuptial agreement. Marrying an old rich hag may be quite a coup for a young junkie, but not with a prenup. It's a complicated little tale of cat and mouse, and it may well be a twisted, sex-reversed parable of him and Mayte. It's lurid, it's cynical, but also more real than lines like "If U're looking 4 a man who will share his deniro, look no further." You're reading way too much into this. | |
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So P is the young man, Doris is WB??? "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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robertes71 said: So P is the young man, Doris is WB???
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Justin1972UK said: robertes71 said: So P is the young man, Doris is WB???
"Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: padawan said: To me, it's another one in a line of Prince songs totally conflicted about money and power. Like Bob George ("I pay the rent in this motherfucker and all you do is suck up food and heat"), Movie Star ("I like that money!"), and the whole Morris Day character, Prince usually employs a comic proxy--here, a rich bitch named Doris--to voice his love of money. When he's not camping it up he does a 180 and makes unconvincing anti-materialist statements like "Diamonds and Pearls," "Money Don't Matter," "Gold," "Face Down," "The One," and "Tangerine." That one line: "Some days I make a lot of money and give it all away" is so out of touch and out of place in a love song it uncomfortably reveals how, in the throes of heartache, he flees into his wealth. "Illusion Coma" at least grapples with the hard reality of business and pleasure. There's a specific trade going on: An aging matriarch gives a young stud a "crib in Paris" in exchange for the buzz of youthful romance. He teaches her how to "dance" and hips her to "the funk." It's practically a confession of how Prince would use his rich celebrity status to buy friends and women. In the song the young man cruelly derides his benefactor's fading looks, and takes advantage of her assets--only to be manipulated into signing a prenuptial agreement. Marrying an old rich hag may be quite a coup for a young junkie, but not with a prenup. It's a complicated little tale of cat and mouse, and it may well be a twisted, sex-reversed parable of him and Mayte. It's lurid, it's cynical, but also more real than lines like "If U're looking 4 a man who will share his deniro, look no further." You're reading way too much into this. Oh, and thank u 4 noticing. "Plaid shorts are completely over." | |
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padawan said: robertes71 said: Okay, thanks for the summary. I had figured that much out metalorange, I should have phrased my question differently. You get a kiss for being so sweet tho.
What does everyone think it means in relation to Prince? Autobiographical in anyway, or just a story about the f-ed up lives of two made up people. Hmmm...wonder along with me... To me, it's another one in a line of Prince songs totally conflicted about money and power. Like Bob George ("I pay the rent in this motherfucker and all you do is suck up food and heat"), Movie Star ("I like that money!"), and the whole Morris Day character, Prince usually employs a comic proxy--here, a rich bitch named Doris--to voice his love of money. When he's not camping it up he does a 180 and makes unconvincing anti-materialist statements like "Diamonds and Pearls," "Money Don't Matter," "Gold," "Face Down," "The One," and "Tangerine." That one line: "Some days I make a lot of money and give it all away" is so out of touch and out of place in a love song it uncomfortably reveals how, in the throes of heartache, he flees into his wealth. "Illusion Coma" at least grapples with the hard reality of business and pleasure. There's a specific trade going on: An aging matriarch gives a young stud a "crib in Paris" in exchange for the buzz of youthful romance. He teaches her how to "dance" and hips her to "the funk." It's practically a confession of how Prince would use his rich celebrity status to buy friends and women. In the song the young man cruelly derides his benefactor's fading looks, and takes advantage of her assets--only to be manipulated into signing a prenuptial agreement. Marrying an old rich hag may be quite a coup for a young junkie, but not with a prenup. It's a complicated little tale of cat and mouse, and it may well be a twisted, sex-reversed parable of him and Mayte. It's lurid, it's cynical, but also more real than lines like "If U're looking 4 a man who will share his deniro, look no further." I think you missed the point of those songs. They weren't about money so much as just his career. Gold isn't about materialism, it's about the importance of doing something new and rediscovering yourself. All he's saying is that money alone won't do you much good if you're just being like everyone else and not being true to yourself. Hardly a contrived statement. Face Down was all about WB. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: padawan said: To me, it's another one in a line of Prince songs totally conflicted about money and power. Like Bob George ("I pay the rent in this motherfucker and all you do is suck up food and heat"), Movie Star ("I like that money!"), and the whole Morris Day character, Prince usually employs a comic proxy--here, a rich bitch named Doris--to voice his love of money. When he's not camping it up he does a 180 and makes unconvincing anti-materialist statements like "Diamonds and Pearls," "Money Don't Matter," "Gold," "Face Down," "The One," and "Tangerine." That one line: "Some days I make a lot of money and give it all away" is so out of touch and out of place in a love song it uncomfortably reveals how, in the throes of heartache, he flees into his wealth. "Illusion Coma" at least grapples with the hard reality of business and pleasure. There's a specific trade going on: An aging matriarch gives a young stud a "crib in Paris" in exchange for the buzz of youthful romance. He teaches her how to "dance" and hips her to "the funk." It's practically a confession of how Prince would use his rich celebrity status to buy friends and women. In the song the young man cruelly derides his benefactor's fading looks, and takes advantage of her assets--only to be manipulated into signing a prenuptial agreement. Marrying an old rich hag may be quite a coup for a young junkie, but not with a prenup. It's a complicated little tale of cat and mouse, and it may well be a twisted, sex-reversed parable of him and Mayte. It's lurid, it's cynical, but also more real than lines like "If U're looking 4 a man who will share his deniro, look no further." I think you missed the point of those songs. They weren't about money so much as just his career. Gold isn't about materialism, it's about the importance of doing something new and rediscovering yourself. All he's saying is that money alone won't do you much good if you're just being like everyone else and not being true to yourself. Hardly a contrived statement. Face Down was all about WB. Another interesting song about the dynamics of materialism and relationships is the brilliant "U Make My Sun Shine". He inverts the cultural symbolism of the "Pimp" and denounces the effects of oppression/capitalism on African-American relationships. | |
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metalorange said: robertes71 said: I'll have to listen to that again.
BTW, does anyone know what this song is about? This song is about a rich woman hiring a gigalo/toy boy. He gives her sex, she pays for everything. This is why to me this song quickly wears thin - it's a pretty ugly story and it's so stripped down musically that it doesn't stand upto repeat plays. sounds like this song should have been on UTCM or maybe it was an unreleased b-sides  hav u had ur + sign 2 day.
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Purplerain7772001 said: metalorange said: This song is about a rich woman hiring a gigalo/toy boy. He gives her sex, she pays for everything. This is why to me this song quickly wears thin - it's a pretty ugly story and it's so stripped down musically that it doesn't stand upto repeat plays. sounds like this song should have been on UTCM or maybe it was an unreleased b-sides I thought that also... it would be a trip if it was written in 85/86 then reworked in 1990 (has the "sex" beat goin on) and yet pulled out of the vault in 04... | |
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