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Prince...New Wave? What are the prince songs and albums that can be considered new wave?
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I listened to a lot of New Wave in the late 70s/early 80s and I don't think any of his albums can be considered New Wave in their entirety.
That said, he had elements of New Wave on several albums... Dirty Mind Dirty Mind Uptown (a little funky for true New Wave, but the synths carry the vibe) Sister (true New Wave -- very reminiscent of stuff The Knack did) Partyup (again, on the funky side, but definitely New Wave-ish) Controversy Controversy (the intro reminds me a little of the Talking Heads) Sexuality (true New Wave here) Ronnie, Talk to Russia (here again) Annie Christian 1999 Let's Pretend We're Married Automatic Something in the Water All the Critics Love You Purple Rain Computer Blue (not 100% "Wave," but it has elements) After that, the New Wave thing was pretty much over. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Yeah right. He doesn't even like New Wave. Or television.  " | |
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Purple Rain definitely had the New Wave vibe and look back then. As a matter of fact that's the reason all the trendy kids latched on, he fooled them into listening to his funk rock gospel with a little New Wave keyboard, hair flipped to one side, frilly outfit, eyeliner sugar.... then he continued it, and dropped the new wave vibe and lost the mainstream fans....
I still remember new wave friends of mine who DRESSED LIKE PURPLE RAIN PRINCE, hated a song like Tambourine... or Housequake... and at that point had moved to Depeche Mode and New Order. Prince lost the "white" New Wave feel and he lost their interest. Having a hit with disco/R&B KISS finally closed the door on his strict New Wave fans. (He gained my full attention with those very songs) My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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When I first heard 1999 it fit right in with that Human League song at the time.... "and so the conversation turned, till the sun when down..." My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: Purple Rain definitely had the New Wave vibe and look back then. As a matter of fact that's the reason all the trendy kids latched on, he fooled them into listening to his funk rock gospel with a little New Wave keyboard, hair flipped to one side, frilly outfit, eyeliner sugar.... then he continued it, and dropped the new wave vibe and lost the mainstream fans....
I still remember new wave friends of mine who DRESSED LIKE PURPLE RAIN PRINCE, hated a song like Tambourine... or Housequake... and at that point had moved to Depeche Mode and New Order. Prince lost the "white" New Wave feel and he lost their interest. Having a hit with disco/R&B KISS finally closed the door on his strict New Wave fans. (He gained my full attention with those very songs) Yes...but...Prince's Purple Rain look came from the New Romantic movement in England, which had its roots in glam rock and (to a lesser degree) punk. In terms of music, the New Romantics included groups like Roxy Music, Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Soft Cell, and Eurythmics. The music was synth driven (like most of the Prince tracks I noted above) and softer than punk. The really amazing thing about Prince is that he pulled together funk, R&B, rock, glam rock, New Wave, and New Romantic both in his musical and personal style. That had never been done before. I know I'm not the first one to say it, but it bears repeating. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: ufoclub said: Purple Rain definitely had the New Wave vibe and look back then. As a matter of fact that's the reason all the trendy kids latched on, he fooled them into listening to his funk rock gospel with a little New Wave keyboard, hair flipped to one side, frilly outfit, eyeliner sugar.... then he continued it, and dropped the new wave vibe and lost the mainstream fans....
I still remember new wave friends of mine who DRESSED LIKE PURPLE RAIN PRINCE, hated a song like Tambourine... or Housequake... and at that point had moved to Depeche Mode and New Order. Prince lost the "white" New Wave feel and he lost their interest. Having a hit with disco/R&B KISS finally closed the door on his strict New Wave fans. (He gained my full attention with those very songs) Yes...but...Prince's Purple Rain look came from the New Romantic movement in England, which had its roots in glam rock and (to a lesser degree) punk. In terms of music, the New Romantics included groups like Roxy Music, Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Soft Cell, and Eurythmics. The music was synth driven (like most of the Prince tracks I noted above) and softer than punk. The really amazing thing about Prince is that he pulled together funk, R&B, rock, glam rock, New Wave, and New Romantic both in his musical and personal style. That had never been done before. I know I'm not the first one to say it, but it bears repeating. New Romantic was New Wave. All those bands you mentioned fall under the category New Wave (as defined by the masses from the 80's), while New Romantic might be a way to try to create a niche within New Wave.... My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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ufoclub said: Genesia said: Yes...but...Prince's Purple Rain look came from the New Romantic movement in England, which had its roots in glam rock and (to a lesser degree) punk. In terms of music, the New Romantics included groups like Roxy Music, Spandau Ballet, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, Soft Cell, and Eurythmics. The music was synth driven (like most of the Prince tracks I noted above) and softer than punk. The really amazing thing about Prince is that he pulled together funk, R&B, rock, glam rock, New Wave, and New Romantic both in his musical and personal style. That had never been done before. I know I'm not the first one to say it, but it bears repeating. New Romantic was New Wave. All those bands you mentioned fall under the category New Wave (as defined by the masses from the 80's), while New Romantic might be a way to try to create a niche within New Wave.... Yes, I know. But while New Romantic was New Wave, not all New Wave was New Romantic -- ya dig? At any rate, I was referring specifically to your comment about the clothing. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: ufoclub said: New Romantic was New Wave. All those bands you mentioned fall under the category New Wave (as defined by the masses from the 80's), while New Romantic might be a way to try to create a niche within New Wave.... Yes, I know. But while New Romantic was New Wave, not all New Wave was New Romantic -- ya dig? At any rate, I was referring specifically to your comment about the clothing. with no doubt, THE ALBUMS " DIRTY MIND" "CONTROVERSY" 1999" AND PURPLE RAIN IMO - DIRTY MIND IS THE ONE THAT REALLY IS NEW HAVE- ALL THE WAY. [Edited 12/16/06 4:11am] | |
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Genesia said: I listened to a lot of New Wave in the late 70s/early 80s and I don't think any of his albums can be considered New Wave in their entirety.
That said, he had elements of New Wave on several albums... Dirty Mind Dirty Mind Uptown (a little funky for true New Wave, but the synths carry the vibe) Sister (true New Wave -- very reminiscent of stuff The Knack did) Partyup (again, on the funky side, but definitely New Wave-ish) Controversy Controversy (the intro reminds me a little of the Talking Heads) Sexuality (true New Wave here) Ronnie, Talk to Russia (here again) Annie Christian 1999 Let's Pretend We're Married Automatic Something in the Water All the Critics Love You Purple Rain Computer Blue (not 100% "Wave," but it has elements) After that, the New Wave thing was pretty much over. Pretty much sums it up. 
Also, add the Time and Vanity 6 stuff to that too.  | |
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I think "when You Were Mine" was definitely New Wave. It sounds like Elvis Costello or the Cars keyboard sound. Cyndi Lauper even covered it. ______________________________________________
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Dirty Mind is full of funky new wave, so is Controversy, 1999 was his last attempt at New Wave. The synth in The Beautiful Ones is new wave based. Listen to Gary Numan. Prince cops from this guy liberally. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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FruitToAttractBears said: Yeah right. He doesn't even like New Wave. Or television.
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MikeMatronik said: What are the prince songs and albums that can be considered new wave?
This is based on a discussion I had with someone in another forum! Contreversy 1999 But , being Prince, he music is a hybrid of sounds, New Wave being one of many elements. | |
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"Controversy" and "1999".
When I hear "Automatic", I definately hear the influence of Gary Numan's "Cars". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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