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Reply #30 posted 12/16/06 8:55pm

Anx

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As further proof of how screwed up the whole Focus on the Family clan can be, here's advice from James Dobson, the group's founder, on how to ensure that your son grows up to be a strappin' heterosexual.

"The boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

Hmm. He may be on to something here. I mean, if I had James Dobson for a father, and I were forced to shower with him and look at his penis, it certainly would have ruined my appetite for cock.


any boy who cannot help but notice a big penis is already lost to the dark side, i'm afraid. lol
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Reply #31 posted 12/16/06 10:02pm

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MikeMatronik said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


focus on the family IS disturbing. nuts


I never heard of them, but they sound like those christian religious zealots.
From my personnal experience, they are the worse kind of people that ever set foot on this planet
[Edited 12/15/06 10:50am]



You are soooo right. brick

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Reply #32 posted 12/16/06 10:22pm

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I hope my friends here who expect more sensible language from me will excuse this, but what a bunch of f*ckin' idiots. disbelief Marital sensuality, pleasure and a party (at which nothing particularly bad happens) are now somehow "objectionable?"

I'd love to see their review of Song of Solomon. confused
Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #33 posted 12/17/06 10:16am

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MikeMatronik said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


focus on the family IS disturbing. nuts


I never heard of them, but they sound like those christian religious zealots.
From my personnal experience, they are the worse kind of people that ever set foot on this planet



he is not a zealot. i do not follow him by any stretch but have heard his radio bits and they are just Christan based advice on how to deal with worldly issues.

what is dangerous is how some people do not even see that there are things in the world that children should not be exposed to..
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Reply #34 posted 12/17/06 10:18am

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Lammastide said:

I hope my friends here who expect more sensible language from me will excuse this, but what a bunch of f*ckin' idiots. disbelief Marital sensuality, pleasure and a party (at which nothing particularly bad happens) are now somehow "objectionable?"

I'd love to see their review of Song of Solomon. confused



they would say that children are not ready to be exposed to some parts of the bible. and SOS is hardly graphic...
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Reply #35 posted 12/17/06 10:49pm

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madartista said:

PRO-SOCIAL CONTENT:
"Beautiful, Loved and Blessed" thanks God for truth, forgiveness, "the breath of life ... and the blood on Calvary." "The Word" and "Get on the Boat" tell people to get right with God before it's too late. Despite contemplating a "bump, bump, bump" with a young temptress on "Lolita," Prince doesn't give in ("You'll never make a cheater out of me ... If I took a sip, I'd be on the run"), however ...

OBJECTIONABLE CONTENT:
The singer wants it both ways, proud to have turned down sin, but only after painting a vivid picture of it. Elsewhere, the CD is full of provocative sexuality. Several tracks find people eager to strip ("Black Sweat," "3121," and the randy come-on "Incense and Candles"). The title song beckons listeners to attend a hedonistic party-to-end-all-parties, while "The Dance" describes a woman's willingness to make love "on the stairs, against the pole." A man brags about his ability to leave a female "Satisfied." Champagne flows on two songs, while another includes a mild profanity.

SUMMARY ADVISORY:
If fans have been baffled about what to call him (Prince, the artist formerly known as Prince, symbol guy), it's nothing compared to the confusion in his lyrics. One minute he's waxing religious, talking about salvation and a coming tribulation. The next he's leering, panting and trumpeting his sexual prowess. 3121 just doesn't add up.

http://www.pluggedinonlin...002663.cfm


I've said the same thing about folks who swear P's recent work could garner CCM rotation... disbelief Never, y'all...

P's confused lyrics -- once signs of genius, now a bit tireed -- are a mainstay of his career.
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Reply #36 posted 12/18/06 12:44pm

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SlamGlam said:

Lammastide said:

I hope my friends here who expect more sensible language from me will excuse this, but what a bunch of f*ckin' idiots. disbelief Marital sensuality, pleasure and a party (at which nothing particularly bad happens) are now somehow "objectionable?"

I'd love to see their review of Song of Solomon. confused



they would say that children are not ready to be exposed to some parts of the bible. and SOS is hardly graphic...

They'd be right. Yet the fact that something isn't for children doesn't make it somehow "objectionable" with regard to family values. Song of Solomon isn't. Likewise, sex with one's spouse/mate isn't for kids... yet find me a family that can exist without said interaction. Sex within the confines of marriage is to be understood as a gift from God. What exactly is anti-family about that?

And while Song of Solomon isn't "graphic," it certainly is suggestive in some areas. Not at all unlike 3121, which also is hardly graphic.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #37 posted 12/18/06 12:53pm

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funny how it is so hip to put down christians and so called
religious zealots,,,but praise those who live a anything goes
lifestyle.....give me a break. These reviews are right on from
a christian perspective. On the opposite end of the spectrum
we have so called fams upset that P isnt lewd and nasty like he
used to be and any song where he mentions scripture or god is frowned upon.
Funny how those who cry for people to be tolerant or more intolerant
than any 1 else. mad
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Reply #38 posted 12/18/06 12:57pm

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ThreadBare said:


P's confused lyrics -- once signs of genius, now a bit tireed -- are a mainstay of his career.


he needs 2 quit fighting
lay it ALL down
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Reply #39 posted 12/18/06 7:15pm

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ThreadBare said:


P's confused lyrics -- once signs of genius, now a bit tireed -- are a mainstay of his career.


he needs 2 quit fighting
lay it ALL down


Ahh, yes...

Don't we all... (I included)
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Reply #40 posted 12/19/06 5:38am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

they got a review of musicology on there too:

pro-social content:
Prince recalls the good ol’ days (“Reflection”) and rebukes an immodestly dressed woman who wants to have an affair (“What Do U Want Me 2 Do?” says, “I got a woman, you got a man/So we got to do what’s right”). On “Call My Name” he tells his wife, “I can’t stop writing songs about you/I love you so much” and believes the world would be a better place if everyone had a love like theirs. He warns a pal tempted to leave his lady that he will be waiting to heal her broken heart (“The Marrying Kind”), however ...

objectionable chit:
Prince is quick to point out flaws in the girl that he aims to fix (“I’m gonna put her on the same diet Missy went on/You know she eats too much”). “Mr. Man” is a diatribe against the government that’s heavy on complaining, light on solutions and personal responsibility. A gigolo services an ugly but wealthy woman on “Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance,” which involves sex, greed and gambling. Alcohol appears on “If Eye Was the Man in Ur Life,” and a turned-on man pleads for his lover to not leave him frustrated (“On the Couch”).

summarized:
The artist formerly known as “that symbol guy” returns to the pop charts with surprising Top-10 staying power. While this disc is better than past efforts (a devout Jehovah’s Witness, Prince shows moral restraint), Musicology isn’t a discipline worthy of teens’ study time.

lol



hmmm...it's like 'ok, dance 2 it, but don't shake ur sinner ass"

confused
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Reply #41 posted 12/20/06 8:00am

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thepope2the9s said:

funny how it is so hip to put down christians and so called
religious zealots,,,but praise those who live a anything goes
lifestyle.....give me a break. These reviews are right on from
a christian perspective. On the opposite end of the spectrum
we have so called fams upset that P isnt lewd and nasty like he
used to be and any song where he mentions scripture or god is frowned upon.
Funny how those who cry for people to be tolerant or more intolerant
than any 1 else. mad


Funny how those who are intolerant see conversation as a lack of tolerance.

Do I believe Dobson to be a zealot? Yes.
Do I know FOTF uses an anti-gay agenda to raise money and push a political platform? Yes.
Do I wish they would go away? Yes.

HOWEVER;

I am not intolerant. I haven't called for a boycott of their site or the removal of their material. I laugh at their reviews, because I don't agree with them, but I support their right to share their beliefs with their followers. And I don't think their reviews are far off the mark for people who are believers. What bothers me is that they use the guise of Family Values to lure in well-meaning truly tolerant parents to join their anti-gay and truly intolerant brigade.
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Reply #42 posted 12/20/06 4:10pm

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madartista said:

thepope2the9s said:

funny how it is so hip to put down christians and so called
religious zealots,,,but praise those who live a anything goes
lifestyle.....give me a break. These reviews are right on from
a christian perspective. On the opposite end of the spectrum
we have so called fams upset that P isnt lewd and nasty like he
used to be and any song where he mentions scripture or god is frowned upon.
Funny how those who cry for people to be tolerant or more intolerant
than any 1 else. mad


Funny how those who are intolerant see conversation as a lack of tolerance.

Do I believe Dobson to be a zealot? Yes.
Do I know FOTF uses an anti-gay agenda to raise money and push a political platform? Yes.
Do I wish they would go away? Yes.

HOWEVER;

I am not intolerant. I haven't called for a boycott of their site or the removal of their material. I laugh at their reviews, because I don't agree with them, but I support their right to share their beliefs with their followers. And I don't think their reviews are far off the mark for people who are believers. What bothers me is that they use the guise of Family Values to lure in well-meaning truly tolerant parents to join their anti-gay and truly intolerant brigade.


actually, focus on the family kind of does an unwitting service to curious young people. john waters has said that when he was a kid, he'd call up the catholics for decency hotline and listen to the list of banned movies for the week. he'd jot down the movies with the most lurid descriptions that got the highest condemnations, and he'd make a point to go see them. so really, maybe the worse the review focus on the family gives an album, the more chance some kid will be exposed to something interesting!
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Reply #43 posted 12/20/06 9:40pm

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Anx said:

actually, focus on the family kind of does an unwitting service to curious young people. john waters has said that when he was a kid, he'd call up the catholics for decency hotline and listen to the list of banned movies for the week. he'd jot down the movies with the most lurid descriptions that got the highest condemnations, and he'd make a point to go see them. so really, maybe the worse the review focus on the family gives an album, the more chance some kid will be exposed to something interesting!


good point. thumbs up!

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Reply #44 posted 12/22/06 1:36pm

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oh yeah kids have long been attracted to the higher rated movies and all record labels did was let kids know which ones were 'better'

and you know Dirty Mind had a warning label in 80... (granted i rather see a voluntary system than mandatory)

but the scary thing is... someday some crazy judge or jury is going to rule that some song, movie, or game goes too far. look at what happened to Grand Theft Auto... some guy found some unused contend and was able to hack into the game to access a sex game...and the likes of Hillary really went off the deep end. over a game that you had to be 17 to buy anyway. *if it had been movie 17 year olds would have been able to see it....
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