That's what the haters would be saying, even some nice folk around these parts.
But, by adding Prince to the equation; tv appearances+vegas+superbowl, the maths are not so straight-forward. I've been into his shit for way too many years to think for one minute he's finally given in, and just wants to be popular, nothing more.
What has he got up his sleeve? Two very safe albums, these family friendly appearances. I believe his priming everyone for something he's gonna drop before too long.
Think about it, if it were a film of some description, (for example) and it HAD to have major impact, you would need to get people turned-on and interested in what you had to offer. could this be possible? what else could he be up to? or do you believe he is just wants to be loved by everyone, now he's seen the light?

just enjoy the ride.

wonder505 said:

Agreed

wonder505 said:

don't get me wrong, ive NEVER got off the ride yet, but what's gonna drop? just can't wait, i guess

prince sold out the first time he signed his name to a warners contract. i don't think of him in those terms because prince does what prince can to make prince as much money as prince can grab. at this point, it's not selling out. it's his diet.

..Bonedaddy, who cares what the haters think, the haters will always hate. "Hating" is how they survive and it's the only thing that
makes them happy...that's why they're so miseraable.


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"Love your enemies by sending them a note of appreciation thanking them for dedicating all their time and energy hating on you, then put the note in an envelope with some hugs and smiles and seal it with a kiss!"---2elijah
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Who cares, if they don't like him they don't have to stay!

european question: when is this superbowl? next year? is it official that he will play there? and last: what do you think he will play - one of those "never play them again Hits"?

thanks

Anx said:

Give me a break. If you truly believed this then I would wonder what you're doing on this site.

Prince was the youngest artist to sign a contract giving him complete creative control: Writing, Producing, Performing, Arranging, etc... and held out on a contract until those things were guaranteed... the only thing he forgot (or wasn't thinking of at 19) was ownership.

Prince made a lot of money back then - When Purple Rain sold over 18 Million copies in 84, when he renewed his contract with WB in the 90's for 100 Million, when he toured across America and Europe in the 80's and 90's... etc. etc., on and on...

If you go to work and get paid for what you do, when is that selling out? If that's the case, I sell out every day... but, my mortgage is getting paid.

June7 said:

you better understand what i'm trying to say before you go rolling those eyes in my direction, sweetiepie.

in a certain manner of speaking, yes, i DO believe it was a certain kind of "selling out" the first time he signed a contract with WB, but by the same token, prince has never pretended to have any kind of anti-corporate credibility or anti-mainstream leanings. he is a talented artist and he has always maintained that his art has capital (not an unfair claim), and as such he's never made any bones about his art being his business.

prince loves money. he always has. he's been very vocal about this all throughout his career. you can admire this, think it's an ugly trait, or just not give a damn, but it is what it is.

if acknowledging that fact about the man means i should not be on this site, then you might as well ban me now.

He's just trying to bring live funk and r&b back to the mainstream. r&b these days is basically hip hop with singers instead of rappers.

Music is a business... And it's always been a business to Prince... It's not like he's ever been giving away music for free...

What exactly is "selling out" ?

Anx said:

B.S.....

June7 said:


maybe at the time...




no he signed one and backed out of it somehow...




what about the one he signed when he 22? or 25 or in 1992 or whenever it was? why is it that only after he signed the $100MILLION dollar contract and THEN fail to deliver sales did he decide he was a SLAVE?

Any artist who has made 1 cent or more from there music has sold out. Cause what have they done, they have sold their music. People gave them money for the music. So wether it be Prince, The Backstreet Boys, or The Greatfull Dead. They have sold out.

P2daP said:

no... that is not selling out... you are WRONG! WRONG WRONG... that IS not what "selling out" means...

SlamGlam said:

What does it mean?
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...It's like the same thread pops up over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again

coolcat said:

when you give up a high level of artistic integrity to make a profit or gain.

SlamGlam said:

I hope you don't mind me asking, but what is "artistic integrity" ?

any of us who go 2 work 2 get paid r sellouts
u gotta have more respect 4 the homeless then don't u
but no, we criticize them 4 NOT selling out
what a screwed up society we r then, eh?

Anx said:

we have ourselves a winner, folks.

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

This is PURE NONSENSE.

it depends on what his intentions are:

to make as much money possible?

to get as much exposure as possible to be able to make as much money possible?

to get as much exposure to make as much money possible to use it for ...?

cashing in on his genius = smart

free show tonight (for locals) at 3121 with Maceo, Larry and Prince = priceless
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I really think Prince feels cheated in someway. CHeated out of money he could/would be making etc. That if he owned his masters he'd be WAY more richer. So he tries and finds ways of making money to keep doing what he likes to do. Sure he probably has a lot of money, but what is going to pay the bills when he eventually puts the guitar down and stops making records? All of his material that keeps the fans coming to Vegas sits in the WB building. He makes very little now on those recordings. He knows this. He knows he gave them the best of his output in his career. And seeing as he won't be able to touch anything like Purple Rain until 2019, he's doing what he can.

COnsider that a lot of artists are banking with re-issues and anniversary editions that he doesn't get to be a part of. And some of these artists aren't even making music anymore.

superspaceboy said:

This makes no sense to me... Prince is worth tens(if not hundreds) of millions ... His back catalogue should be bringing in plenty in royalties. I don't see how Prince has to worry about paying the bills...
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