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Thread started 12/03/06 5:45pm

playme3121

1999 The New master

i do not have this cd, is it any good?
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Reply #1 posted 12/03/06 6:24pm

Anx

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Reply #2 posted 12/03/06 6:31pm

AsianBomb777


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Reply #3 posted 12/03/06 6:34pm

DanceWme

AsianBomb777 said:


[Edited 12/3/06 18:31pm]

STOP IT!!!

I was trynna avoid that mess in the other thread..I come here and BAM!!

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Reply #4 posted 12/03/06 6:34pm

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The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #5 posted 12/03/06 6:35pm

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I've still yet to ever hear it. Lucky me.
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #6 posted 12/03/06 6:44pm

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I have it smile
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Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture!
REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince
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Reply #7 posted 12/04/06 3:50am

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Anx said:


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Reply #8 posted 12/04/06 4:35am

PANDURITO

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luv4u said:

I have it smile

Don't we all? smile

(except playme3121 and PurpleKnight of course rolleyes )
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Reply #9 posted 12/04/06 5:06am

Anx

PANDURITO said:

luv4u said:

I have it smile

Don't we all? smile

(except playme3121 and PurpleKnight of course rolleyes )


i don't.

furthermore, i won't allow it in my home.

a ouija board? sure, bring it in. the satanic bible? i guess. a crack pipe? whatever.

but 1999: the new master? GET OUT OF MY HOME WITH THAT FILTH. no no no!
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Reply #10 posted 12/04/06 5:27am

AsianBomb777

Anx said:

PANDURITO said:


Don't we all? smile

(except playme3121 and PurpleKnight of course rolleyes )


i don't.

furthermore, i won't allow it in my home.

a ouija board? sure, bring it in. the satanic bible? i guess. a crack pipe? whatever.

but 1999: the new master? GET OUT OF MY HOME WITH THAT FILTH. no no no!



1999-The New Master replaced "fruitcake" as my holiday gift to those I dislike.
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Reply #11 posted 12/04/06 6:18am

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"its a work of art"
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #12 posted 12/04/06 6:22am

unkemptpueblo

What the Fuck was he thinking? sad
A happy face, A Thumpin Bass, For A Lovin' Race. PEACE.
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Reply #13 posted 12/04/06 6:44am

AsianBomb777

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What the Fuck was he thinking? sad



This is only a guess, but he was obviously going through some personal problems back then, and still struggling with the Warner Bros. issue. He probably released the single with a great deal of haste to try and compete with what he viewed as WB trying to make a profit off the orginal.

Of course, unless someone proves me wrong, was the year 1999 rather weak in sales for the single "1999" ? Or at least a weak one with regards to Prince and overall exposure. He made a few appearances like pre-taping the Rave un2 the Year 2000 concert and allowing MTV to show it, but I dont' think anyone but Prince fans paid any attention.
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Reply #14 posted 12/04/06 6:48am

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Quick, buy the 12" purple vinyl version from this site. Now 'only' $38, was $108!!!!!

If only we could reduce how shit this recording is by a similar margin, it'd be a better world.


http://eil.com/shop/morei...gid=133342
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Reply #15 posted 12/04/06 6:58am

AsianBomb777

PopeLeo said:

Quick, buy the 12" purple vinyl version from this site. Now 'only' $38, was $108!!!!!

If only we could reduce how shit this recording is by a similar margin, it'd be a better world.


http://eil.com/shop/morei...gid=133342

falloff
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Reply #16 posted 12/04/06 7:03am

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PopeLeo said:

Quick, buy the 12" purple vinyl version from this site. Now 'only' $38, was $108!!!!!

If only we could reduce how shit this recording is by a similar margin, it'd be a better world.


http://eil.com/shop/morei...gid=133342


boxed

i nearly bought one on ebay.
The vinyl is a nice item to have.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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Reply #17 posted 12/04/06 11:55am

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It's pretty bad. Had it come out similar to the other "remasters" (by leaking), it might have had a bit of a better response. But he was determined to try to undermine his classic with a remix of it really. If he wanted to test the waters with "new versions" he should have chose a different time.
because a kiss on the lips is better than a knife in the back
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Reply #18 posted 12/04/06 12:27pm

FunkyBrotha

I dont get why people hate this? Its practically the same as the original, yes, the production is slightly different and the some of the vocals are different but whats to hate?
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Reply #19 posted 12/04/06 12:34pm

Handclapsfinga
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FunkyBrotha said:

I dont get why people hate this? Its practically the same as the original, yes, the production is slightly different and the some of the vocals are different but whats to hate?

unlike the original, it rots.
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Reply #20 posted 12/04/06 12:40pm

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FunkyBrotha said:

I dont get why people hate this? Its practically the same as the original, yes, the production is slightly different and the some of the vocals are different but whats to hate?



funkubrotha please look at what youve written.
Its practically the same as the original except for production and vocals.

falloff
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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Reply #21 posted 12/04/06 2:24pm

cutn

he should have left it alone, you aint missin much, I have it but dont listen to it, I think Doug E. Fresh is on it
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Reply #22 posted 12/04/06 2:31pm

vinaysfunk

I don't mean to sound too stupid but I've never heard it, was does sound like? Serouisly if you could take some time to describe it. Thanks how bad can it be? Some one used the word "rots" that's pretty bad and graphic. biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 12/04/06 2:40pm

Haystack

1999: The Poo Master would have been a better title.
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Reply #24 posted 12/04/06 3:08pm

Se7en

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FunkyBrotha said:

I dont get why people hate this? Its practically the same as the original, yes, the production is slightly different and the some of the vocals are different but whats to hate?


It's hardly similar to the original - at best it's a remix but IMO it's a bad cover (even though it is Prince covering his own song).

• The addition of Rosie Gaines and Doug E. Fresh are horrible
• The rap at the end is ridiculous
• Prince's vocals overlaid over the originals (Dez and Jill?) sounds like Karaoke
• The ending - salsa/Latin music? Why?
• Crediting the Revolution on the cover, but Rosie/Doug E./Larry over pre-recorded tracks is NOT the Revolution.
• Rosario Dawson spoken word? Again, why? If it was Prince speaking at least that would make sense.

So many things wrong with it. If I were him, I would've cooperated with WB on at LEAST this one release. I would've marketed that with the original and a killer dance remix (like what he did on the Rave DVD). Oh well.

I'm glad I only paid about 5 bucks for this back in the day.
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Reply #25 posted 12/04/06 3:23pm

Se7en

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vinaysfunk said:

I don't mean to sound too stupid but I've never heard it, was does sound like? Serouisly if you could take some time to describe it. Thanks how bad can it be? Some one used the word "rots" that's pretty bad and graphic. biggrin


A basic description:

Prince re-recorded the entire song 1999 to sound fresh and updated, using only the 2 other voices that sing the verses from the original song. He used certain musical parts again, but sorta "sampled" them into a new composition.

This sounds cool but it's not seamless. Yes, their voices are cleaned up and the volume is adjusted, but when it's Prince's turn to sing it sounds different - like he's singing over another song (not really as bad as karaoke, but along those same lines). The musical samples are really good. Instrumentally, it's a nice song.

Rosie Gaines (of the NPG) sings during the choruses. I liked Rosie back in the early 90's, but her voice does not belong on 1999.

There's a new Latin-inspired ending, but not until Doug E. Fresh makes his appearance with a very weak rap (one of those Prince ego-boosters a la My Name Is Prince). A politically relevant rap would've been more welcome.

That's about it. For a completist, I would get it (just so you have it). I do think it will be hard to find in the future, but not because of high demand. A lot of them get thrown out - it really is worth next to nothing.

Not to post another comparison, but imagine if Michael Jackson re-recorded a Jackson 5 classic, but used the original vocals from his brothers, the music sounded different and his own new vocals had the girly voice he has now (instead of the mini-James Brown it was when he was young). Sorta like that.
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Reply #26 posted 12/04/06 3:27pm

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Not to post another comparison, but imagine if Michael Jackson re-recorded a Jackson 5 classic, but used the original vocals from his brothers, the music sounded different and his own new vocals had the girly voice he has now (instead of the mini-James Brown it was when he was young). Sorta like that.


Oh, and imagine also if he added 2-3 other artists (who were friends of his but not currently popular) and still credited it as a Jackson 5 recording.

confused
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Reply #27 posted 12/04/06 3:29pm

Illustrator

You all just don't get it.

Since he can no longer swear,
this is Prince's way of saying
"Like it or not,
this version is your new master, bitches."
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Reply #28 posted 12/04/06 3:31pm

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Listen, I love almost everything P has ever done, but 1999 The New Master is a complete and utter crock of shit. It pains my ears to listen to it.
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Reply #29 posted 12/04/06 3:51pm

NouveauDance

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FunkyBrotha said:

I dont get why people hate this? Its practically the same as the original, yes, the production is slightly different and the some of the vocals are different but whats to hate?


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