bonedaddy said:

You got to explain this emoticon, I am a little slow

luv4u said:

what's the point? Ya'll ain't gonna lock it anyway.....

Of the many things I think while listening to Little Red Corvette, 'fucked up' is not one of them.

I remember watching that bit of interview with Sheila E in Prince of Paisley Park, and her saying, 'he doesn't really pay attention to some things, as far as mic-ing things are concerned. He's more into the mood', or something to that effect.

And that'll do for me.

mikek1 said:

He didn't distort his vocals, his vocals are distorted (there's a difference).
It's got nothing to do with mastering, the vocals were recorded too hot in the
first place, but Prince decided to keep the performance rather than re-record
them and risk getting a lesser performance. Besides, it's not that noticeable
(most people don't even realise the distortion's there). There's several songs
where the recording process has been less than perfect, but sometimes that just
adds to the charm of the track. Prince prefers to get the moment down quickly
rather than watering the song down with overdubbing (well he used to anyway).

Thank you Boris for bringing some clear and concise information to this ongoing and painful drama. Hopefully this will start to put an end to this mastering saga.

The distortion bothers me a bit still, after all these years...

vinaysfunk said:

I already said it earlier in this thread!

and this thread isn't about the mastering... it's about the vocals in Little Red Corvette.

Two different things.

vinaysfunk said:

maybe not a good representation, by my feeling was, I am bored of this shit, boo! to this topic, old news.

ufoclub said:

Sorry dude. settle down. First of all most people care what Boris has to say, second the referance to mastering was for mikek1. That why Boris felt the need to mention it.

hey mike u muscian.if not u got northing to say ,when ur as successful as prince is .then talk ok ,

vinaysfunk said:

lol, if I use an emoticon, I'm not being very serious. And....I wasn't talking about what Boris posted, I'm talking about your statement "Hopefully this will start to put an end to this mastering saga". I'm pointing out that this thread addresses Little Red Corvette's vocal track, not the mastering of albums that Mikek1 is howling about. In other words, Mikek1 has exapnded his complaints to the recording process, whereas before it was about the final mastering.

It's all part of the MASTERPLAN. He knew this was a hot mess and someday he can rake in the dough and remaster everything.

And all the little children will use their hooker and coke money to buy again and again and again..

So this was his fault, at least?

It didn't stop it from going top 5. Just goes to show you that the energy of the performance is just as important as the fidelity.

NDRU said:

true, I think he liked that the vocal ran hot, it makes it sound like the intensity was overpowering the recording.

ufoclub said:

Yeah, it's a breathy vocal, but it's loud. 1999 doesn't sound perfect, either. But the effect as a whole is good. Those songs are nearly perfect.

ufoclub said:

Mikek1 has always expanded his points to the recording and eventually the final mastering process. My response was and is directed to boris and mikek1, sorry we left you out. This is exactly my problem with this and mikek1's other threads, it's never about the issue at hand which your talking about he always want to discuss the mastering process, 2 dumb 4 me.

vinaysfunk said:

I SAID IT'S NOT THE MASTERING [Name calling snip - luv4u]

mikek1 said:

Well mikek1 I think you've become one of the most unliked members on this site, read what other people have been saying and get a clue, you should stay on sites where experts share your pov. From reading what other people have to say they are either bored with your topics or you seem lash out with your maturity. I haven't been called a [Name calling snip - luv4u] since 9th grade and thats when I was watching Beavis and Butthead while drinking beer. Sorry if I misunderstood your point but there hardly any experts here. But keep it up and I am sure you'll make more friends here. I am sure in 2-3 days you'll bring up another pointless subject and refer us to Steve Hoffman's site. Keep typing.

vinaysfunk said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

BorisFishpaw said:

there's the question, and there's the answer
let's not hang this out any more, let's not turn this into another TGE or 3121, going round in fucking circles all week, type of thing...please

Thanks bonedaddy, I am digging your posts, keep em coming.

bonedaddy said:

actually, that's not really an answer to the question (which might have beem formed all that well)! both Mike and Boris say the SAME thing: there are distorted vocals on the recording, and it a separate issue from mastering. The difference lies in liking or disliking the choice by Prince to leave a take intact where vocals got distorted by being too loud for either the mic or the reverb/effects unit (most likely the latter).

ufoclub said:

I think that's what he said. The vocals are distorted, and he left it like that because the performance was good.

jeez, when I type fast I sound so retarded....

BorisFishpaw said:

Boris

I thought I read once that there was also an issue with the recorder (A Capstan or something) at the time of recording that caused the master of the 1999 album to have some issues. I can't remeber where I read this but I think it was a book or magazine.

Here's a bit of info:

On July 1982, Prince recorded Little Red Corvette for the first time using a 24 track tape machine at his home studio.

So it was his first use of a new recording system... at home...

Ok, so it does distort at around 49 - 51 secs I checked, BUT SO WHAT! It's not THAT bad cause if it was more people would hav noticed, and it doesnt really make the song any less great.