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Reply #30 posted 11/24/06 7:03pm

Thumparello

Prince is making bank on his fans! Smart man I'm sure he's sitting back laughing and slapping five with his accountants. WAY OVER PRICED. I don't care who it is not paying that much, period. It would have to offer much more than that.
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Reply #31 posted 11/24/06 7:08pm

wonder505

Thumparello said:

Prince is making bank on his fans! Smart man I'm sure he's sitting back laughing and slapping five with his accountants. WAY OVER PRICED. I don't care who it is not paying that much, period. It would have to offer much more than that.


like what?
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Reply #32 posted 11/25/06 2:54am

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metalorange said:

leeslave2 said:


If you would have went to school you would know seats is a plural word , I didnot say $700 per seat. I do realize Prince goes through stages . And he is not the only artist that has a club reesturant . Van Halen has the same . Cabo Wabo .


I did go to school thanks, that's why I know such things as the phrase 'If you would have went to school' is bad grammar and tense and should really be 'If you had gone to school'.

Similarly, your earlier bad grammar implies the seats are $700 per seat, 'a piece' refers to something singular, so 'seats for $700 a piece' is another way of saying 'seats for $700 per seat' or '$700 each'. If you had said 'table booths for $700 a piece' clearly that would indicate a single booth for $700, not two or more booths for $700 all in, even though 'table booths' is also plural like 'seats'.

I think you did believe it was '$700 a seat' but because I caught you out, you are backpedalling.



Well then I must be white trailer trash, Because I'm not a pompus british ass like most are , don't get me wrong I am !/2 british but if you were a gentelman you would not be so narrow minded , I know what I meant . I would hope that he wasn't charging $700 per ticket. If anything you would go with someone. Therefore That is what I ment a couple. Not $700 per booth, or seat. BUt there you go reading between the lines. I know your an obsessed fan , And you think that what Prince does is law. But come to reality. We are only human, and some of us like you have limitations. "who's going to save us when the spiders get next to you. spinning their stickey webs around what you do. you got to sick god against fork and tounge.and the treatery of the wicked one .get up come on let's do something. "THE WORD"
IN a word or 2 it's u eye want 2 do no not ur body ur mind you fool! Cum here baby!!!
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Reply #33 posted 11/25/06 3:13am

pkidwell

Honestly he's not messing around with people. It's a great meal, a great seat at a very nice club and a great show period.
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Reply #34 posted 11/25/06 6:12am

metalorange

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leeslave2 said:

metalorange said:



I did go to school thanks, that's why I know such things as the phrase 'If you would have went to school' is bad grammar and tense and should really be 'If you had gone to school'.

Similarly, your earlier bad grammar implies the seats are $700 per seat, 'a piece' refers to something singular, so 'seats for $700 a piece' is another way of saying 'seats for $700 per seat' or '$700 each'. If you had said 'table booths for $700 a piece' clearly that would indicate a single booth for $700, not two or more booths for $700 all in, even though 'table booths' is also plural like 'seats'.

I think you did believe it was '$700 a seat' but because I caught you out, you are backpedalling.



Well then I must be white trailer trash, Because I'm not a pompus british ass like most are , don't get me wrong I am !/2 british but if you were a gentelman you would not be so narrow minded , I know what I meant . I would hope that he wasn't charging $700 per ticket. If anything you would go with someone. Therefore That is what I ment a couple. Not $700 per booth, or seat. BUt there you go reading between the lines. I know your an obsessed fan , And you think that what Prince does is law. But come to reality. We are only human, and some of us like you have limitations. "who's going to save us when the spiders get next to you. spinning their stickey webs around what you do. you got to sick god against fork and tounge.and the treatery of the wicked one .get up come on let's do something. "THE WORD"


Excuse me, you were the one who insulted me by implying I was stupid and did not go to school and did not understand grammar. By proving your grammar was in error, I showed that you were wrong on all counts. Now you berate me for correcting you! I was not the one who started with the insults, it was you. You imply I am not a gentleman, am a pompous British ass, and are narrow minded, simply because I stood my ground and proved myself.

Similarly, I can also prove my point about you thinking it was $700 a seat all along and simply because I caught you out you have been backtracking and pretending to not think that all along. Even though you have now edited your original post to remove the 'a piece' part (even though grammatically that still doesn't give the correct impression), you forgot to edit your second post on this thread, where you categorically say:

His shows are wonderful don't get me wrong. But $700 a seat is ridiculous.


There you have it, $700 a seat is not open to misinterpretation. It is singular not plural. $700 for one seat for one person at the Vegas Prince gigs.

You go onto call me 'an obsessed fan' but it is you who quote Prince lyrics to me as if that somehow proves your point.

You started this thread which was an attack on Prince charging way too much for a seat to his gig, and I have simply proved you were in error and the amount was only half what you thought. If you had simply swallowed your pride and admitted you were mistaken, I wouldn't have said anymore, but no, it was you who made a big issue about you being right all along, and forced me to defend myself on a relatively small nitpicking point.

Well, I think I've proved my point beyond doubt.

You can go ahead now and edit your second post to look more favourably on yourself if you want, you big baby.
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Reply #35 posted 11/25/06 6:59am

vinaysfunk

This thread has plain gotten stupid. I hate to see my posting friend metalorange in a posting squabble. My wife is British and I can vouch from what I read from this guy that he is not a "pompus British ass" because I know a few and one he is not. Lets get back to the music and issue at hand. I am from NY and Massachusetts. When we want to see shows I go to Boston and NYC. When I tell my friends what $700 gets you what it gets you thay laugh because that's a great deal to them. A dinner table, bottle service, dinner and up and close seats 4 2. They say $700.00? That's a deal so I guess the answer lies in who your'e talking to and what your used to. For me 700.00 could be used elsewhere but 4 those that want 2 go I don't get in their way wink
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Reply #36 posted 11/25/06 7:02am

wlcm2thdwn

You have to remember that to millionaires and rich VIP's $700 is not a lot of money!
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Reply #37 posted 11/25/06 7:10am

vinaysfunk

I am not a millionaire or a VIP. All I am trying to say is that he has set up show in a major city with major players. 700.00 is 2 steep 4 me but I understand. For those that want to see him 4 $100-$40 wait another 3-4 months wink
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Reply #38 posted 11/25/06 7:45am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

You have to remember that to millionaires and rich VIP's $700 is not a lot of money!


Kind of my point I touched on earlier. The fact is a lot of people have moaned about the price of the $125 ticket, nevermind anything else. To some people this seems outrageously expensive and why would Prince play to only the type of people that can afford this? Why doesn't he instead charge a price your average Joe on the street can afford?

But, for every average Joe that can afford it there's another sector for which even that price would be unaffordable. The real point that people are moaning about is inclusivity, to be in a position to be inclusive of whatever sector Prince happens to be aiming for at that point of time.

On one level, this is a monetary issue. If you can afford to go see Prince, whether it be in Vegas or on tour, you go, while those that can't bemoan the fact that they can't and that the ticket price should be lower. Even if the ticket price was free, as so many continually point out the price of travel, accomodation, food and drink, etc. is still there to be paid and would still be a large amount and certainly would not be Prince's fault. It would still be a case of many could not afford to go, but they wouldn't be able to vent their frustration at Prince.

The bottom line is someone is always going to be moaning at the cost of things.

On another level is a locational issue. Vegas seems a far-off place to many people in the US and can't understand why Prince would be playing in a far off place. But for some people I'm sure Vegas is much closer than Prince normally comes! The fact is that Prince can't be conveniently located for everyone. A tour perhaps brings him closer to your home town but you may still have to travel a long way and incur the usual travel costs. When Prince is touring in the US as with the Musicology tour, we get endless moans from Europe and elsewhere why he isn't touring there, as if simultaneously Prince can be everywhere at once!

Ultimately, Prince has to choose to which sector of humanity he aims his shows at. In this case he has chosen to only play to small crowds of reasonably-well-off-to-very-well-off people, and the people who moan are basically jealous they don't fall in that category. I would assume the advantage of this sector to Prince is that he gets a reasonably well-turned out, well behaved audience, the sort of audience that will be polite and not too fanatically zealous and with which he can easily relax with. A sort of step up from the rich/celebrity only parties he did in LA, where he feels he can mingle without the threat of a mob trying to tear his clothes off as momentoes. As an example, even with the better behaved attitude of well-to-do Vegas giggers, I was reading over on Housequake about one person who insisted on touching Prince's trousers when he came near and tapping his mic. The second night they did this, after the gig they were escorted out by security! That is the type of fanaticism that Prince hopes to avoid by setting the ticket price at this level, I would imagine.

On tour, Prince tends to set the ticket price to include a larger sector of society, but it would still exclude some. Deciding which country to tour is also basically setting the inclusivity level.

The fact is that as soon as someone is within that circle of incluvisity, they don't tend to worry about those as that aren't. When only touring the US, they don't particularly care about the Europeans being able to get a chance to see the show. When in Europe, the Europeans don't much care about the Americans!
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Reply #39 posted 11/25/06 8:52am

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metalorange said:

leeslave2 said:


If you would have went to school you would know seats is a plural word , I didnot say $700 per seat. I do realize Prince goes through stages . And he is not the only artist that has a club reesturant . Van Halen has the same . Cabo Wabo .


I did go to school thanks, that's why I know such things as the phrase 'If you would have went to school' is bad grammar and tense and should really be 'If you had gone to school'.

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Reply #40 posted 11/25/06 3:13pm

babynoz

leeslave2 said:

. "who's going to save us when the spiders get next to you. spinning their stickey webs around what you do. you got to sick god against fork and tounge.and the treatery of the wicked one .get up come on let's do something. "THE WORD"




I believe the phrase is "safeguard against the forked tongue", but your version is funnier. lol
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Reply #41 posted 11/25/06 8:39pm

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He doesn't enunciate very well on that line. Up until just a few months ago, I thought the line was "safeguard against forky town." confused
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Reply #42 posted 11/25/06 11:06pm

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PurpleKnight said:

He doesn't enunciate very well on that line. Up until just a few months ago, I thought the line was "safeguard against forky town." confused
[Edited 11/25/06 20:40pm]


I thought it was "funky tongue" confused
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Reply #43 posted 11/26/06 1:29pm

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metalorange said:[quote]

wlcm2thdwn said:


But, for every average Joe that can afford it there's another sector for which even that price would be unaffordable. The real point that people are moaning about is inclusivity, to be in a position to be inclusive of whatever sector Prince happens to be aiming for at that point of time.

On one level, this is a monetary issue. If you can afford to go see Prince, whether it be in Vegas or on tour, you go, while those that can't bemoan the fact that they can't and that the ticket price should be lower. Even if the ticket price was free, as so many continually point out the price of travel, accomodation, food and drink, etc. is still there to be paid and would still be a large amount and certainly would not be Prince's fault. It would still be a case of many could not afford to go, but they wouldn't be able to vent their frustration at Prince.

The bottom line is someone is always going to be moaning at the cost of things.

Ultimately, Prince has to choose to which sector of humanity he aims his shows at. In this case he has chosen to only play to small crowds of reasonably-well-off-to-very-well-off people, and the people who moan are basically jealous they don't fall in that category. I would assume the advantage of this sector to Prince is that he gets a reasonably well-turned out, well behaved audience, the sort of audience that will be polite and not too fanatically zealous and with which he can easily relax with. That is the type of fanaticism that Prince hopes to avoid by setting the ticket price at this level, I would imagine.


Well done, metalorange.

I understand this move by Prince. Some of his fams, like me, are older and prefer to see him in a more intimate, civil setting. Having the option to see him up close without the fear of some drunken fool spilling beer and clammering all over you to get close is refreshing. Yes, the cost of seeing him can get steep when you have to add airfare, hotel, gratunities, etc.; however, it's a price I am willing to pay for a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
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Reply #44 posted 11/26/06 1:33pm

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PurpleKnight said:

He doesn't enunciate very well on that line. Up until just a few months ago, I thought the line was "safeguard against forky town." confused
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Reply #45 posted 11/27/06 6:28pm

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Thumparello said:

Prince is making bank on his fans! Smart man I'm sure he's sitting back laughing and slapping five with his accountants. WAY OVER PRICED. I don't care who it is not paying that much, period. It would have to offer much more than that.


lightning rainbo

...considering some of his prior history with accountants eye doubt he's sitting back laughing with them...more like getting some 2 check on the others....they caused a nasty mess a while back cool

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Reply #46 posted 11/27/06 6:52pm

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lightning rainbo

its been interesting watching this discussion....truly eye can't complain of the manner Heaven Blesses B 2 C his & other artists' shows...gotta take a minute 2 speak on something here that HE definately would have little appreciation 4....

...it is rare that eye have a ticket at shows, when eye do generally eye can find some suffering soul n the area that is glad 2 receive it...how many shows have eye been 2 where there is a line of celebrities being admitted at no charge!!! individual's who could certainly pay the price of a ticket!!! my suggestion: Y not have a celebrity ticket sponsorship program = give them 2 those earnest supporters who would attend & tell all friends about the experience...maybe prompting more fans ~ whatta concept! this one gets tired sometimes of observing those n a position 2 pay gliding by those who have had 2 save or scrimp so they could attend....boyfriend is never at a loss 4 folks 2 pony up $$ on whatever he's doing, wherever he's doing it wink

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Reply #47 posted 11/27/06 7:05pm

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It's obscene to pay that amount of money for a 'show'. I find it offensive to think of all the suffering that goes on in the world that someone could even consider handing over hundreds of dollars to organised crime, gangsters and millionaire pop stars.

It sickens me, but that's Vagas for ya..
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Reply #48 posted 11/27/06 7:09pm

wonder505

TheSkinMechanic said:

It's obscene to pay that amount of money for a 'show'. I find it offensive to think of all the suffering that goes on in the world that someone could even consider handing over hundreds of dollars to organised crime, gangsters and millionaire pop stars.

It sickens me, but that's Vagas for ya..


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Reply #49 posted 11/27/06 8:55pm

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metalorange said:

leeslave2 said:


If you would have went to school you would know seats is a plural word , I didnot say $700 per seat. I do realize Prince goes through stages . And he is not the only artist that has a club reesturant . Van Halen has the same . Cabo Wabo .


I did go to school thanks, that's why I know such things as the phrase 'If you would have went to school' is bad grammar and tense and should really be 'If you had gone to school'.

Similarly, your earlier bad grammar implies the seats are $700 per seat, 'a piece' refers to something singular, so 'seats for $700 a piece' is another way of saying 'seats for $700 per seat' or '$700 each'. If you had said 'table booths for $700 a piece' clearly that would indicate a single booth for $700, not two or more booths for $700 all in, even though 'table booths' is also plural like 'seats'.

I think you did believe it was '$700 a seat' but because I caught you out, you are backpedalling.


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Reply #50 posted 11/28/06 9:53am

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yall act like he is pocketing the $700 straight up. Geesh! That has the cover the cost of overhead for the club (rent, electric, band members, wait staff, etc), that has to cover the cost of the bottle of wine, the food at the restaurant, the wait staff, the cooks, restaurant overhead. Come on now...get serious.

Bottom line, if $700 is too much, go for the $125 tickets wink
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Reply #51 posted 11/28/06 9:57am

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Prince is all about the money.

First he wants me to pay for plane tickets to get to Vegas. He probably has some deal going on with Travelocity or something, so that he can get a cut of my plane ticket. THEN, I gotta find a hotel in Vegas, and you just know Prince gets a cut from one of them expensive hotels. THEN, he's taking a cut of the prostitute that 's gonna hook me up before the show, because even though he would probably deny it, Prince is a PIMP. And THEN, on top of ALL THAT, he wants to charge $700 for dinner AND a show?!

He's all about the money. He should get back to making fucking music. Shit, I haven't had a new album in almost nine whole months. Lazy bastard needs to get back to recording and stop stealing all my cash.

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Reply #52 posted 12/01/06 7:46am

Shyra

txladykat said:

yall act like he is pocketing the $700 straight up. Geesh! That has the cover the cost of overhead for the club (rent, electric, band members, wait staff, etc), that has to cover the cost of the bottle of wine, the food at the restaurant, the wait staff, the cooks, restaurant overhead. Come on now...get serious.

Bottom line, if $700 is too much, go for the $125 tickets wink


There ya go, Lady! All the rest of you po mofos...start saving your money or quit cher beefin! razz
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