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Printablebonedaddy said: Please can I just say, especially to those that are on the American side of the pond, that we from the UK should not be confused with the Europeans, we do not really regard ourselves as such, so please don't assume we are all fucked up.
It's cos they eat strange stuff! and I wont even go into the rest. I have lived in England for many years and I had never seen a country where the media were so insulting towards Prince. And btw my numerous english friends consider themselves as europeans whether you like it or not.  | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: bonedaddy said: Please can I just say, especially to those that are on the American side of the pond, that we from the UK should not be confused with the Europeans, we do not really regard ourselves as such, so please don't assume we are all fucked up.
It's cos they eat strange stuff! and I wont even go into the rest. I have lived in England for many years and I had never seen a country where the media were so insulting towards Prince. And btw my numerous english friends consider themselves as europeans whether you like it or not. I have never seen a country where the media are so insulting to EVERYONE, you really shouldn't pay much attention to the British tabloids. That may depend on how old your friends are as to if they would want to be considered european, maybe they think it sounds chic or something, but we aint European  | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: NewMr7 said: You are not a 'spokesman' for all of Europe, nor is your opinion shared by all Europeans.
You're absomutely correct but quite frankly If i cannot speak in the name of all europeans, as a matter of fact 99.99% of europeans do not give a flying fuck about Prince anymore. he has disappeared from the landscape a long time ago. When his name is mentionned, he is often mocked, ridiculized or seen as a genius whose last great album was Sign'O the times.
Sorry mate to make you realize how the artist you love so much has managed his career so well he is just seen as on old funk legend. Not only are you not a spokesman for all of Europe, I don't even think tabloids and media critics are a spokesman for all of Europe, or any countries therein. The media has it's own agenda, to sell whatever, they do not speak impartially or necessarily reflect the feelings 99.9% of the population. I think it is obvious to everyone that Prince is far from his peak popularity years in Europe, as happens to most every artist with his sort of longevity, Bob Dylan, James Brown, whatever, it doesn't stop people lapping up these legends when they tour even if the rest of the year they never think twice about them. | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: virginie74 said: Sorry Sarkofan, I didn't. [Edited 11/21/06 10:05am] I'm sure your friends are into prince as well and do not burst into a fierce laugh when you mention how much you dig him. They can laugh as much as they want. Second, most of my friends are musicians and do appreciate Prince. Yeah people (but not friends) used to laugh, but my differences are something I'm used to now. Third, a lot of people would go to see him perform even if they are not true fans, just because they have the money and want to see the "show"; I'm not sure there will be places left for people like me. | |
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bonedaddy said:[quote] sarkozyiszeman said: That may depend on how old your friends are as to if they would want to be considered european, maybe they think it sounds chic or something, but we aint European I'm sorry for you you have not been to school but yes the Uk is part of Europe whether you like it or not and a member of EU. I know you wish you were american but there is a big gap full of water between your country and them. | |
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I think it is obvious to everyone that Prince is far from his peak popularity years in Europe, as happens to most every artist with his sort of longevity, Bob Dylan, James Brown, whatever, it doesn't stop people lapping up these legends when they tour even if the rest of the year they never think twice about them.
As soon as one expresses his/her real feelings, it is pretty funny to see how biased and fanatic the reactions are here. I'm not a naysayer. I'm not someone who says Prince is crap and has no talent. I'm someone who says his band is very average right now and that 3121 is dead and buried so no need to tour in Europe. I just wish Prince went to the studio to create sthing as good as TRC and would gather a great band like in 2002 (which is yesterday for me... I'm not a naysayer refering to The revolution). A tour right now would be sensless. Woaw that's too much to handle for most people here. I don't want to imagine your reactions when someone really hates Prince.  [Edited 11/22/06 10:43am] | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: I think it is obvious to everyone that Prince is far from his peak popularity years in Europe, as happens to most every artist with his sort of longevity, Bob Dylan, James Brown, whatever, it doesn't stop people lapping up these legends when they tour even if the rest of the year they never think twice about them.
As soon as one expresses his/her real feelings, it is pretty funny to see how biased and fanatic the reactions are here. I'm not a naysayer. I'm not someone who says Prince is crap and has no talent. I'm someone who says his band is very average right now and that 3121 is dead and buried so no need to tour in Europe. I just wish Prince went to the studio to create sthing as good as TRC and would gather a great band like in 2002 (which is yesterday for me... I'm not a naysayer refering to The revolution). A tour right now would be sensless. Woaw that's too much to handle for most people here. I don't want to imagine your reactions when someone really hates Prince.
[Edited 11/22/06 10:43am] It's one thing that you don't care for his present band and you're speaking for yourself, but another thing to be the spokesman for all European Prince fans and telling him not to come there and perform because of your dislike for his present band. If you start a thread like that you have to expect reactions from other fans, and then calling them names doesn't make your point any better. You don't like his present band, then fine, but to tell you the truth, he could go to Europe if he so pleases, that would be his decision, especially since neither you nor any of us possess and will never possess the power to control his decisions. If he wanted to perform in a big arena then I think that would have been his choice for the past year, but he seems to be pleased with performing in smaller venues at this time. I'm sure when the time comes and he feels like going on tour he'll have a larger band to tour with, but right now he is playing in a smaller venue, which is no need for a larger band right now, but that's just my opinion. [Edited 11/22/06 16:51pm] | |
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mimiviz said: sarkozyiszeman said: Well, the reports coming from vegas are not really good, are they ? Prince is described as being on auto and bored sometimes. His band is boring as hell. There is not one exceptional musician in his new band. The Twinz are two talentless naked teenagers. Put all that together + the fact that the whole thing is happening in Vegas and prince is losing a bit more of his credibility.
Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans. So please, Prince do not tour in Europe with this crap band. people here will trash you. We are far more difficult than the american audience. The only positive aspect here is that most people won't understand your preaching so they won't even notice. Please, forget about 3121. It was a nice, ok album, just for fun. Get in the studio, Work on something as adventurous as TRC, get a proper band, and put on a show like you did back in 2002. You were exceptional during this tour. Genius at work. I doubt Prince will be up all night worrying simply because you don't like his band. Just wondering if you've even seen the show to know so definitavely that it is sooo bad ... of course I'm not actually asking because I don't care all that much [Edited 11/21/06 16:54pm] Yeah! And besides, Prince has a single that's on a #1 album now (Happy Feet soundtrack), so give the brotha a chance! Dag-yo! | |
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MrHappyRave4 said: Yeah! And besides, Prince has a single that's on a #1 album now (Happy Feet soundtrack), so give the brotha a chance! Dag-yo! Yeah people are buying the soundtrack just for Prince. | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: I think it is obvious to everyone that Prince is far from his peak popularity years in Europe, as happens to most every artist with his sort of longevity, Bob Dylan, James Brown, whatever, it doesn't stop people lapping up these legends when they tour even if the rest of the year they never think twice about them.
As soon as one expresses his/her real feelings, it is pretty funny to see how biased and fanatic the reactions are here. I'm not a naysayer. I'm not someone who says Prince is crap and has no talent. I'm someone who says his band is very average right now and that 3121 is dead and buried so no need to tour in Europe. I just wish Prince went to the studio to create sthing as good as TRC and would gather a great band like in 2002 (which is yesterday for me... I'm not a naysayer refering to The revolution). A tour right now would be sensless. Woaw that's too much to handle for most people here. I don't want to imagine your reactions when someone really hates Prince.
[Edited 11/22/06 10:43am] As it happens, Prince often tours without directly promoting an album, or when an album is done with, or playing only few tracks from the latest album. The Nude tour came somewhere after Batman was done but before Graffiti Bridge. Hit n' Run tours just playing hits. Even TRC was not directly promoted, it was a year after its release and called the One Nite Alone tour - basically promoting an album you couldn't buy! I'm not saying these are logical decisions, but Prince just doesn't make logical decisions, and still his tours do great. As for the quality of this band, even the ONA band wasn't completely loved until it had been together a while and got tight; this current band has done only about a dozen performances, give them a break! If you respect Prince's musical choices then you must know he knows what he's doing picking these band members, certainly from what I've seen of them I'd be happy to go to a show by them. | |
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Insane...when he does europe they'll be comin in their knickers to see him...he could go out virtually in a monkey suit with a bass drum strapped to his back and they'd go | |
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sarkozyiszeman said:[quote] bonedaddy said: sarkozyiszeman said: That may depend on how old your friends are as to if they would want to be considered european, maybe they think it sounds chic or something, but we aint European I'm sorry for you you have not been to school but yes the Uk is part of Europe whether you like it or not and a member of EU. I know you wish you were american but there is a big gap full of water between your country and them. Yes, well done.Thanks for the geography lesson. Like I said, English, Scottish, Welsh and Irish refer to themselves as just that, not European citizens. There still is a big difference between us and our continental 'friends', but you wouldn't understand. Not that it really matters, ive strayed from the main topic. I still don't understand why you think Prince is suddenly not up to touring the UK or the rest of Europe? Has he lost the ability to sing or play instruments? After all his years of experience touring, he all of a sudden has no ability in putting a band together? You talk some bollocks. And one more thing, don't try to insult my intelligence. You KNOW I want to be American??? what the fuck is that all about? man, I laughed hard when I saw that, how old are you? that's the kind of shit that comes from the mouth of a kid  seriously, do your parents know you're trying to bother people with shit?? | |
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bonedaddy said: Not that it really matters, ive strayed from the main topic. I still don't understand why you think Prince is suddenly not up to touring the UK or the rest of Europe? Has he lost the ability to sing or play instruments? After all his years of experience touring, he all of a sudden has no ability in putting a band together? You talk some bollocks. And one more thing, don't try to insult my intelligence. You KNOW I want to be American??? what the fuck is that all about? man, I laughed hard when I saw that, how old are you? that's the kind of shit that comes from the mouth of a kid seriously, do your parents know you're trying to bother people with shit??So now you speak in the name of all british people an you dare telling me that I talk some bollocks. You must be really old or conservative to think this way. Only people like my english mother in law who lives in Exeter think like you.
British people have evolved and know contrary like guys like you that De Gaulle is dead and Thatcher has become a powerless old lady. And btw I'm not trying to bother you. You're the one who replied to me in the first place and who made an answer that had nothing to do with my original post. Who is the child who started this all "us british we have nothing to do with europeans" silly thing ? I know the UK by heart as I have lived there, have some relatives, friends and clients all over the place there. So don't tell me bullshit about the UK : I would show you places you have no idea about in your own country. | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: bonedaddy said: Not that it really matters, ive strayed from the main topic. I still don't understand why you think Prince is suddenly not up to touring the UK or the rest of Europe? Has he lost the ability to sing or play instruments? After all his years of experience touring, he all of a sudden has no ability in putting a band together? You talk some bollocks. And one more thing, don't try to insult my intelligence. You KNOW I want to be American??? what the fuck is that all about? man, I laughed hard when I saw that, how old are you? that's the kind of shit that comes from the mouth of a kid seriously, do your parents know you're trying to bother people with shit??So now you speak in the name of all british people an you dare telling me that I talk some bollocks. You must be really old or conservative to think this way. Only people like my english mother in law who lives in Exeter think like you.
British people have evolved and know contrary like guys like you that De Gaulle is dead and Thatcher has become a powerless old lady. And btw I'm not trying to bother you. You're the one who replied to me in the first place and who made an answer that had nothing to do with my original post. Who is the child who started this all "us british we have nothing to do with europeans" silly thing ? I know the UK by heart as I have lived there, have some relatives, friends and clients all over the place there. So don't tell me bullshit about the UK : I would show you places you have no idea about in your own country. Must you have the last word? I am not old or conservative, I speak generally, not for everyone else, many of us do not like being refered to as europeans, as they do on the continent, and my original point was not directed to you, because people might assume you are from the UK, as you don't actually state where you are from, (just happy to be a European I suppose) I got a sense that some were picking at the UK for what you said. What's this other bollocks you talk of again? I am well travelled, I doubt you could show me much, i'm not already aware of. Maybe we can make a date and go sight-seeing together
Anyway, this Prince guy, are you suggesting that he shouldn't visit any country with-in Europe? What about your country? Is he not worthy? Should he tour Africa or Asia, Australia ? | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: thEfRIeNdChiP said: Poland...please let's be serious here. Why its not serious 4 U? | |
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, definately NOT! 
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Desire2006 said: http://www.prince.org/msg/8/209167
Take note FAMS!!! Lets face it, PRINCE HAS HAD HIS DAY!!!!!  are you for real? fucking
some of you kill me
"HAD HIS FUCKING DAY" | |
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bonedaddy said: Must you have the last word? I am not old or conservative, I speak generally, not for everyone else, many of us do not like being refered to as europeans, as they do on the continent, and my original point was not directed to you, because people might assume you are from the UK, as you don't actually state where you are from, (just happy to be a European I suppose) I got a sense that some were picking at the UK for what you said. What's this other bollocks you talk of again? I am well travelled, I doubt you could show me much, i'm not already aware of. Maybe we can make a date and go sight-seeing together
Anyway, this Prince guy, are you suggesting that he shouldn't visit any country with-in Europe? What about your country? Is he not worthy? Should he tour Africa or Asia, Australia ? 1) Check the thread "New prince album now...", that's how I feel about him right now. 2) Sorry about your anti-european feelings and your narrow minded mentality. I'm proud of being part of Europe and its diversity. You are not obviously. But who cares ... You are european whether you like it or not. | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: bonedaddy said: Must you have the last word? I am not old or conservative, I speak generally, not for everyone else, many of us do not like being refered to as europeans, as they do on the continent, and my original point was not directed to you, because people might assume you are from the UK, as you don't actually state where you are from, (just happy to be a European I suppose) I got a sense that some were picking at the UK for what you said. What's this other bollocks you talk of again? I am well travelled, I doubt you could show me much, i'm not already aware of. Maybe we can make a date and go sight-seeing together
Anyway, this Prince guy, are you suggesting that he shouldn't visit any country with-in Europe? What about your country? Is he not worthy? Should he tour Africa or Asia, Australia ? 1) Check the thread "New prince album now...", that's how I feel about him right now. 2) Sorry about your anti-european feelings and your narrow minded mentality. I'm proud of being part of Europe and its diversity. You are not obviously. But who cares ... You are european whether you like it or not. And i'm 'narrow-minded'? I guess the answer was 'yes', you do have to have the last word. So, Prince is not welcome to tour Europe, although he will be well recieved in the UK, as apposed to somewhere like Bulgaria,i'm guessing, because you don't like his new album? and you don't approve of him doing what the hell he wants 'between' projects, assuming this Vegas stint isnt part of some project? Just don't buy a ticket then, who cares? He has lost no ability to tour | |
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bonedaddy said: blablabla
She is always in my hair !  | |
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oh my.....this thread is sooooo 2002.
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Milty said: oh my.....this thread is sooooo 2002.
[Edited 11/23/06 6:04am] EXCUSE US, MR. PERFECT!!!!!  | |
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Milty said: oh my.....this thread is sooooo 2002.
[Edited 11/23/06 6:04am] Like if it was 30 years ago... | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: bonedaddy said: blablabla
She is always in my hair ! I'm sorry, I've been a bit slow. I assume you are French? You talk shit, but I like you | |
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I'm deeply troubled by this thread!
JMHO but (and I'm not speaking for all Europeans here) in the UK although we know we are part of Europe many of us don't really feel European. Although we share a common language we know that we're not American. We're just us. Now is this attitude correct? Probably not. Now, I personally would love to go and see Prince if he toured here again. I believe that it would probably sell out if it was advertised well and properly in advance especially as he hasn't been here for ages. If he did tour then quite a bit of the press would support him (Guardian, Telegraph, all that) and most of the Red Tops (Sun etc.) would wheel out the, "Purple Pain," stories as they help to fill up the pages. So, to me, that's the thing about the U.K - it's a country full of contradiction. | |
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bonedaddy said: sarkozyiszeman said: She is always in my hair ! I'm sorry, I've been a bit slow. I assume you are French? You talk shit, but I like you Yes I am. Talking bullocks takes 90% of our time in France.
Btw I like your country very much. No sore feelings. Peace. | |
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Oh, and just one more thing. If he's such a has been, you pretentious little hater, then how come the UK is giving him a Hall Of Fame award? sounds like someone is jealous | |
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MrHappyRave4 said: Oh, and just one more thing. If he's such a has been, you pretentious little hater, then how come the UK is giving him a Hall Of Fame award? sounds like someone is jealous
Sorry I'm neither a naysayer or a hater nor a fanatic like you.
Learn to read.I have never said he was an has been. I have said that's the way the vast majority of people see him nowadays. There is a big difference here. I'm a fan myself but not a hardcore fan tottaly blinded by the light. | |
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IAintTheOne said: have you heard the new band?.. Cora is a bad ass drummer so before you judge, ask someone who's actually been to the Vegas show and seen him. She was when she played with FOLEY. people always ignore this fact. Prince doesn't challenge her. sorry y'all, it's true. http://ffgap.7to.de/Foley...take1).mp3 "Who gon' clean up all deez Flowers" ----Eddie Murphy as mr. clarence | |
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AsianBomb777 said: Milty said: oh my.....this thread is sooooo 2002.
[Edited 11/23/06 6:04am] EXCUSE US, MR. PERFECT!!!!! Shut Up DAN! | |
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