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Printablesarkozyiszeman said: Well, the reports coming from vegas are not really good, are they ? Prince is described as being on auto and bored sometimes. His band is boring as hell. There is not one exceptional musician in his new band. The Twinz are two talentless naked teenagers. Put all that together + the fact that the whole thing is happening in Vegas and prince is losing a bit more of his credibility.
Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans. So please, Prince do not tour in Europe with this crap band. people here will trash you. We are far more difficult than the american audience. The only positive aspect here is that most people won't understand your preaching so they won't even notice. Please, forget about 3121. It was a nice, ok album, just for fun. Get in the studio, Work on something as adventurous as TRC, get a proper band, and put on a show like you did back in 2002. You were exceptional during this tour. Genius at work.  I doubt Prince will be up all night worrying simply because you don't like his band. Just wondering if you've even seen the show to know so definitavely that it is sooo bad ... of course I'm not actually asking because I don't care all that much [Edited 11/21/06 16:54pm] OK, so like first I will start by telling U how smart and intelligent a curve your behind has..... | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: P could start a tour in Europe tonight and sell it out in hours. Get real. Hes one of the last African American true artists that so many europeans spend endless hours emulating. Wheres that dude that used to wear ruffled shirts and roll around in flowers?
 But you dont have to worry about him touring that cold berg anytime soon. He has expressed no interest to do so whatever. Your awards didnt even bait him. I'd say the one that need more soul is yall. Hanging out w/ British rockers dosent sound like his cup of tea old chap.Depends what kind of tour it is to sell out. I'm not sure he's capable of doing the 20 plus arena shows he did in London for the Nude Tour anymore. As for Europeans spending endless hours emulating him - is there something you know about Europeans private lives that we don't? When has Prince expressed no interest in touring Europe? Prince is THE MAN but we are keeping it 'real' here, arn't we? | |
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pald1 said: JonnyApplesauce said: P could start a tour in Europe tonight and sell it out in hours. Get real. Hes one of the last African American true artists that so many europeans spend endless hours emulating. Wheres that dude that used to wear ruffled shirts and roll around in flowers?
But you dont have to worry about him touring that cold berg anytime soon. He has expressed no interest to do so whatever. Your awards didnt even bait him. I'd say the one that need more soul is yall. Hanging out w/ British rockers dosent sound like his cup of tea old chap.Depends what kind of tour it is to sell out. I'm not sure he's capable of doing the 20 plus arena shows he did in London for the Nude Tour anymore. As for Europeans spending endless hours emulating him - is there something you know about Europeans private lives that we don't? When has Prince expressed no interest in touring Europe? Prince is THE MAN but we are keeping it 'real' here, arn't we? Wow. I'll be happy to respond to your questions but in the spirit of keeping it real, if you like to analyze posts this closely, how on God's green earth did you miss the title post of this thread?  | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: pald1 said: Depends what kind of tour it is to sell out. I'm not sure he's capable of doing the 20 plus arena shows he did in London for the Nude Tour anymore. As for Europeans spending endless hours emulating him - is there something you know about Europeans private lives that we don't? When has Prince expressed no interest in touring Europe? Prince is THE MAN but we are keeping it 'real' here, arn't we? Wow. I'll be happy to respond to your questions but in the spirit of keeping it real, if you like to analyze posts this closely, how on God's green earth did you miss the title post of this thread? Well, who knows what's going on in that poster's head. Now, can you respond to my questions please? | |
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AsianBomb777 said: LadyQ said: Can we please get off the "how folks should act at 50" kick. Prince still looks good so if he wants to lick his microphone and sing "Head" again while he electrocutes himself, whateva. Funny how eveybody makes fun of the Rolling Stones but you don't see them canceling concerts because they can't sell enough tickets. LQ Girl, you know as well as I do he's dying his hair black, his face is numb with botox, and he's got so much latex on him, you don't even know how much of him is human anymore. If he electricutes himself, all parts of that motherfucker would start beeping and shit. Like Obi Wan Kenobe said, he's more machine than man now. 
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sarkozyiszeman said: Well, the reports coming from vegas are not really good, are they ? Prince is described as being on auto and bored sometimes. His band is boring as hell. There is not one exceptional musician in his new band. The Twinz are two talentless naked teenagers. Put all that together + the fact that the whole thing is happening in Vegas and prince is losing a bit more of his credibility.
Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans. So please, Prince do not tour in Europe with this crap band. people here will trash you. We are far more difficult than the american audience. The only positive aspect here is that most people won't understand your preaching so they won't even notice. Please, forget about 3121. It was a nice, ok album, just for fun. Get in the studio, Work on something as adventurous as TRC, get a proper band, and put on a show like you did back in 2002. You were exceptional during this tour. Genius at work. good thing prince has fans like us to advise him  THIS should make him stand up and take note | |
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pald1 said:[quote] JonnyApplesauce said: P could start a tour in Europe tonight and sell it out in hours. Get real. Hes one of the last African American true artists that so many europeans spend endless hours emulating. Wheres that dude that used to wear ruffled shirts and roll around in flowers?
But you dont have to worry about him touring that cold berg anytime soon. He has expressed no interest to do so whatever. Your awards didnt even bait him. I'd say the one that need more soul is yall. Hanging out w/ British rockers dosent sound like his cup of tea old chap.Depends what kind of tour it is to sell out. I'm not sure he's capable of doing the 20 plus arena shows he did in London for the Nude Tour anymore. What youre not sure of matters less than how little idea you have of what the title post is talking about. My rhetorical question is: what do you know? As for Europeans spending endless hours emulating him - is there something you know about Europeans private lives that we don't? Who are you speaking for and here again: what do you know? When has Prince expressed no interest in touring Europe? Since how ever many years ago when he did express an interest in touring europe. Clearly my post interested you but do you have any remote interest in what the original poster is talking about? | |
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Like Obi Wan Kenobe said, he's more machine than man now. [/quote]
I don't get people thinking approaching 50 is so old. I don't see the botox signs yet. I know lots of regular folk who look even better than Prince, especially in the black community. I think Prince is pretending to play Dorian Gray by avoiding too much sun and wearing enough foundation to break his neck. I can stand aging. Some folks get better with time if they don't fight it too much.But, when he starts looking like Burt Reynolds,  I'll stop checking in on him..-Silk | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans.
Don´t think so  , definately NOT! 
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JonnyApplesauce said:[quote] pald1 said: JonnyApplesauce said: P could start a tour in Europe tonight and sell it out in hours. Get real. Hes one of the last African American true artists that so many europeans spend endless hours emulating. Wheres that dude that used to wear ruffled shirts and roll around in flowers?
But you dont have to worry about him touring that cold berg anytime soon. He has expressed no interest to do so whatever. Your awards didnt even bait him. I'd say the one that need more soul is yall. Hanging out w/ British rockers dosent sound like his cup of tea old chap.Depends what kind of tour it is to sell out. I'm not sure he's capable of doing the 20 plus arena shows he did in London for the Nude Tour anymore. What youre not sure of matters less than how little idea you have of what the title post is talking about. My rhetorical question is: what do you know? As for Europeans spending endless hours emulating him - is there something you know about Europeans private lives that we don't? Who are you speaking for and here again: what do you know? When has Prince expressed no interest in touring Europe? Since how ever many years ago when he did express an interest in touring europe. Clearly my post interested you but do you have any remote interest in what the original poster is talking about? Ok, obviously I read the title heading and my remarks go some way to supporting it. Questioning whether he could sell out in Europe extends the original question. In any event, I specifically referred to your post and why you want to keep drawing atttention away from it makes me feel that you are embarressed by it - as your lackluster 'answers' attest. It's no good trying to deflect your ignorance on to me to somehow make it mine - that's childish. I mean, your 'back-up' for Prince not wanting to tour Europe is to ask when he ever 'has' expressed interest! That's no answer! That's pure kindergarten 'tit for tat' and totally laughable. You've avoided categorical answers and attacked my knowledge - a classic diversion for the ignorant. Can't you just admit that you bandied a bunch of half-assed opinions and now realized you're in trouble when someone called you on it. Why? 'Cos you still 'aint answered the questions. Fool. | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: And what do you have to offer that's better than Prince, The Rolling Stones?
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pald1 said: JonnyApplesauce said: Depends what kind of tour it is to sell out. I'm not sure he's capable of doing the 20 plus arena shows he did in London for the Nude Tour anymore. What youre not sure of matters less than how little idea you have of what the title post is talking about. My rhetorical question is: what do you know? As for Europeans spending endless hours emulating him - is there something you know about Europeans private lives that we don't? Who are you speaking for and here again: what do you know? When has Prince expressed no interest in touring Europe? Since how ever many years ago when he did express an interest in touring europe. Clearly my post interested you but do you have any remote interest in what the original poster is talking about? Ok, obviously I read the title heading and my remarks go some way to supporting it. Questioning whether he could sell out in Europe extends the original question. In any event, I specifically referred to your post and why you want to keep drawing atttention away from it makes me feel that you are embarressed by it - as your lackluster 'answers' attest. It's no good trying to deflect your ignorance on to me to somehow make it mine - that's childish. I mean, your 'back-up' for Prince not wanting to tour Europe is to ask when he ever 'has' expressed interest! That's no answer! That's pure kindergarten 'tit for tat' and totally laughable. You've avoided categorical answers and attacked my knowledge - a classic diversion for the ignorant. Can't you just admit that you bandied a bunch of half-assed opinions and now realized you're in trouble when someone called you on it. Why? 'Cos you still 'aint answered the questions. Fool. Your disproprtionate interest and way too personal analysis of my post is a microcosm of the original poster's luv taps at P. I'm flattered and all but I got a girlfriend. Maybe the film short will cheer you up.  | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: Well, the reports coming from vegas are not really good, are they ? Prince is described as being on auto and bored sometimes. His band is boring as hell. There is not one exceptional musician in his new band. The Twinz are two talentless naked teenagers. Put all that together + the fact that the whole thing is happening in Vegas and prince is losing a bit more of his credibility.
Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans. So please, Prince do not tour in Europe with this crap band. people here will trash you. We are far more difficult than the american audience. The only positive aspect here is that most people won't understand your preaching so they won't even notice. Please, forget about 3121. It was a nice, ok album, just for fun. Get in the studio, Work on something as adventurous as TRC, get a proper band, and put on a show like you did back in 2002. You were exceptional during this tour. Genius at work. | |
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Desire2006 said: metalorange said: The reports I have read are extremely positive about the actual perfomances of Prince. Seems like wishful thinking on your part, unless you can actually quote these negative reports you say you have read. Even if you could, I would argue there are far more positive reports than negative.
Prince's reputation as a live performer is untarnished even in Europe, and his shows will still sell out there even without a hit album accompanying it, as happened on the ONA tour only 4 years ago. Yes, but the ONA tour was a small venue tour, in places of no more than approx. 5,000 seater concert halls, so no wonder he sold them out!! If he toured large arenas, such as Wembley Arena and Earls Court, for example, here at that time, I doubt whether they would have sold those out, because his popularity then was dwindling down 2 virtually a small loyal fan base and he knew it 2!! Hammersmith Apollo, for example, was only a 3,000 capacity arena, not exactly Earls Court or Wembley Arena!!! Most of his small loyal fanbase members went 2 Hammersmith for all 3 nights, so that alone took up some seating!!
Nowadays, he will never fill out 40 - 50 - 60,000 seater arenas or stadiums like he did in the 80s and early 90s!! 
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sarkozyiszeman said: wonder505 said: why don't you post links of the negative reviews that you claim in your post. otherwise you're just blowing a lot of hot air. I actually went to the shows in Vegas, however since you seem to know more than me, so can you show that there were more negative reviews than positive? ...waiting.... [Edited 11/21/06 9:11am] Go to the concerts section : reviews from last week-end show how great the shows were. And let's not mention the first night. One of my best mates from London attended the show and told me Prince was dead bored on stage. I guess for those who have not seen the 1999, PR, Parade, Sign'o The times and Lovesexy tours and legendary aftershows, th new Celine Dion's concerts are fine. [Edited 11/21/06 10:19am] Forget hear say & all that crap from ONE so called friend ...borrow some money and go see for yourself and judge for yourself...dont be a PUPPET to other peoples opinions!!! | |
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wonder505 said: sarkozyiszeman said: Go to the concerts section : reviews from last week-end show how great the shows were. And let's not mention the first night. One of my best mates from London attended the show and told me Prince was dead bored on stage. I guess for those who have not seen the 1999, PR, Parade, Sign'o The times and Lovesexy tours and legendary aftershows, th new Celine Dion's concerts are fine. [Edited 11/21/06 10:19am] Just like I thought  HOT AIR. I asked you to post links to back up your claim and you didn't. that's funny, there was a man standing in the back of me, he's from London but he works in Vegas and he went to the press night show on Wednesday and the show on Friday and he said it was great, he was dancing up a storm. So what do you have to say about that?
Everyone has a right to their opinion, but you started a thread trashing a show you didn't go to and deemed yourself spoke person for an entire continent. oh well. time to move on.....
[Edited 11/21/06 10:52am] ha ha ha ha fucking well said !!! | |
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Honestly, I think some people are forgetting that he doesn't have to tour in the UK at all if he so wishes and just tour right here in the US of A like he did with Musicology and did very well.
I mean, regardless of all the criticism, wishes and demands, he doesn't have to perform anywhere and could just decide one day to go into retirement, then no one will have anything to complain about. Oh wait a minute,  yes they will because they'll just keep asking "Where's Prince?" and begging for him to return, he just can't win can he?
Well, he's not doing anything wrong by performing in Vegas. It was a decision he made, something apparently he wanted to do, whether he succeeds in it or not, he'll be the one to take the fall, I'm sure he was aware of that when he decided to do this. There's nothing wrong with taking risks in life because most people are afraid to do so and he isn't and I have to give him props for that. I'm not singing Kumbaya, but it is his life and either you go to see him perform in Vegas or you don't. He can't answer every single fan's wishes, all he can do is what he feels from his heart and what makes him happy, and before anyone starts jumping all over me for saying that, no, I don't know him personally, but this goes for every one of us. Live for you, do what makes you content in life, regardless of the criticism from others. Others don't walk in your shoes. Don't look for your desires in someone else, because if you're just living and doing things to make someone else happy, then what are you doing to make you happy? See my point? Apparently Vegas was something Prince wanted to do or he wouldn't be there. I would love to go back in time and see the Prince of the 80s, 90s, but that was then, that has been done already. I have a collection of music from that time period and when I want to hear a Prince 80s or 90s track, I put it on, but this is 2006, and time changes things and people, and I can't speak for anyone else, but right now, I certainly appreciate and respect the Prince of now. [Edited 11/21/06 18:56pm] [Edited 11/21/06 19:10pm] | |
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AsianBomb777 said: mzflash said: There's part of Prince that can't be touched by electronics or science. It's something that he uses when he creates his music and performs for us. Age isn't a factor, and Prince is the owner of this valuable commodity. Few own it. He creates music that most of us could never dream of. And that puts Prince in a league of his own. 
  As disturbing as your post is, I agree 
You can call me when your shuttle lands. I concur. Prince didn't do any mal performances. Wt something are you talkin about? Prince is perfect in my eyes when it comes to music. He came a long way. You sit there and type up mess like this. Prince might have some things that suck in your opininon, but other ppl might thought it was cookin'. So, leave Prince alone. He doesn't act mean unless you are mean to him 1st. One of the many reasons why I love him. Prince make her stop or him. I don't know the poster all that well, yet. | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: pald1 said: Ok, obviously I read the title heading and my remarks go some way to supporting it. Questioning whether he could sell out in Europe extends the original question. In any event, I specifically referred to your post and why you want to keep drawing atttention away from it makes me feel that you are embarressed by it - as your lackluster 'answers' attest. It's no good trying to deflect your ignorance on to me to somehow make it mine - that's childish. I mean, your 'back-up' for Prince not wanting to tour Europe is to ask when he ever 'has' expressed interest! That's no answer! That's pure kindergarten 'tit for tat' and totally laughable. You've avoided categorical answers and attacked my knowledge - a classic diversion for the ignorant. Can't you just admit that you bandied a bunch of half-assed opinions and now realized you're in trouble when someone called you on it. Why? 'Cos you still 'aint answered the questions. Fool. Your disproprtionate interest and way too personal analysis of my post is a microcosm of the original poster's luv taps at P. I'm flattered and all but I got a girlfriend. Maybe the film short will cheer you up. LOL. I knew it. | |
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NouveauDance said: sarkozyiszeman said: Well, the reports coming from vegas are not really good, are they ? Prince is described as being on auto and bored sometimes. His band is boring as hell. There is not one exceptional musician in his new band. The Twinz are two talentless naked teenagers. Put all that together + the fact that the whole thing is happening in Vegas and prince is losing a bit more of his credibility.
Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans. So please, Prince do not tour in Europe with this crap band. people here will trash you. We are far more difficult than the american audience. The only positive aspect here is that most people won't understand your preaching so they won't even notice. Please, forget about 3121. It was a nice, ok album, just for fun. Get in the studio, Work on something as adventurous as TRC, get a proper band, and put on a show like you did back in 2002. You were exceptional during this tour. Genius at work. You know, if he does tour, you don't have to go learn to read. I said I don't want him to look ridiculous one more time here and being trashed by critics and european audience. we hace seen disasters over here in the past already. Please prince do not repeat that. | |
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thEfRIeNdChiP said: sarkozyiszeman said: Over here in Europe, nobody is aware of what he does and to be quite frank nobody cares. Prince is seen as an has-been by the vast majority of europeans.
Don´t think so , definately NOT!
C what Poland (European Country) do 4 PRINCE -> WATCH THIS VIDEO! Poland...please let's be serious here. | |
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Alright, alright, the FAMS invasion is polluting this thread. So I'm gonna make it clear.
I hate two kinds of fans : the Prince can do No wrong ones (= FAMS) and Prince can do No right fans (= after 1987 everything he has put out is shit). I'm not part of neither of these two groups. I love Prince as a musician. I like him when he focuses on music and when he is trying to reach a goal. So it seems that many of you make no difference between the band he had in 2002 or in 1995 with Michael B and Sonny T and his band right now. Fine, this is your right but I'm entitled to say his band is average. Prince normaly comes up with amazing bands. This one is very disappointing. No, I have not attended the Vegas shows but I have plenty of bootlegs here + plenty of performances on TV with his new band that attest one thing : Prince is shining on guitar (he is definitely better than ever on guitar) and behind nothing great is hapening. It is very weird. Moreover why make a tour without a proper new album to promote. 3121 is totally forgotten already. It does not make sense whatsoever. So I repat what I said at the start of this thread : please do not tour in Europe with this show. Go to the studio. Make a great innovative new album. Then gather a great band and then and only then... TOUR IN EUROPE BUTPLEASE NOT WITH THIS BAND. [Edited 11/22/06 2:28am] | |
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You are not a 'spokesman' for all of Europe, nor is your opinion shared by all Europeans. | |
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metalorange said: Desire2006 said: Yes, but the ONA tour was a small venue tour, in places of no more than approx. 5,000 seater concert halls, so no wonder he sold them out!! If he toured large arenas, such as Wembley Arena and Earls Court, for example, here at that time, I doubt whether they would have sold those out, because his popularity then was dwindling down 2 virtually a small loyal fan base and he knew it 2!! Hammersmith Apollo, for example, was only a 3,000 capacity arena, not exactly Earls Court or Wembley Arena!!! Most of his small loyal fanbase members went 2 Hammersmith for all 3 nights, so that alone took up some seating!!
Nowadays, he will never fill out 40 - 50 - 60,000 seater arenas or stadiums like he did in the 80s and early 90s!!
[Edited 11/21/06 6:06am] Frankly, who cares if he doesn't do stadiums in Europe anymore, it just means we get to see him a little closer than before! No one can argue that he is the megastar on top of the world like he used to be, though he still does pretty well for someone nearly 30 years into their career. Saying that, he did play Wembley Arena back in '98 and it looked pretty full to me - and that was years since his last hit. People will come out of the woodwork to see Prince live if they feel it is going to be a hits tour like what happened in America, less so if it is rarer material but still, a few 5000 arenas around Europe ain't bad in my opinion, I don't want to be stuck at the back of a crowd a mile from the stage like I used to be. I prefer seeing Prince in a smaller venue too. The Apollo and Brixton Academy were great. However, I also went to Wembley the last time he played there, and I have to say I distinctly recall a fair amount of empty seats; it was very far from full. I also remember a couple of critics (who enjoyed the show) mentioning the empty seats in their reviews. I'd like to see the figures on that. There's a Bumhole in my Heart. |
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NewMr7 said: You are not a 'spokesman' for all of Europe, nor is your opinion shared by all Europeans.
You're absomutely correct but quite frankly If i cannot speak in the name of all europeans, as a matter of fact 99.99% of europeans do not give a flying fuck about Prince anymore. he has disappeared from the landscape a long time ago. When his name is mentionned, he is often mocked, ridiculized or seen as a genius whose last great album was Sign'O the times.
Sorry mate to make you realize how the artist you love so much has managed his career so well he is just seen as on old funk legend. | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: And what do you have to offer that's better than Prince, The Rolling Stones?
John Lennon and you shot him. | |
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sarkozyiszeman said: NewMr7 said: You are not a 'spokesman' for all of Europe, nor is your opinion shared by all Europeans.
You're absomutely correct but quite frankly If i cannot speak in the name of all europeans, as a matter of fact 99.99% of europeans do not give a flying fuck about Prince anymore. he has disappeared from the landscape a long time ago. When his name is mentionned, he is often mocked, ridiculized or seen as a genius whose last great album was Sign'O the times.
Sorry mate to make you realize how the artist you love so much has managed his career so well he is just seen as on old funk legend. ^^..and yet you spend so much time talking about him..  I don't think Prince gives a hoot about the negative or mocking remarks the critics in Europe or anywhere else has to say, if he did he would have crawled up and hid in a corner, but he didn't, he challenges critics like you and continues to do what he feels is right for his life and his music career. Your opinion is only one person's opinion and you're entitled to it, but honestly, I don't think you have a right to speak for all European fans. I'll say this though, without you coming to his shows in Vegas, that's one less negative vibe in the room.
----- With threads like this now I see what Prince means in the song "Seven" [Edited 11/22/06 5:47am] [Edited 11/22/06 5:47am] | |
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Please can I just say, especially to those that are on the American side of the pond, that we from the UK should not be confused with the Europeans, we do not really regard ourselves as such, so please don't assume we are all fucked up.
It's cos they eat strange stuff! and I wont even go into the rest. | |
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