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Thread started 10/25/06 8:04am

IstenSzek

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"Joint 2 Joint"

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i've been listening to this song an awful lot lately ever since
it popped up on an old compilation album i made to listen to in
the car.

it's a really good track. damn. i liked it first time round but
it has aged pretty well. (in much the same way prince's 1980's
output ages: it sounds like an era but doesn't sound tired).

anyway. something i've always found striking is that segment in
the song where prince goes

"up the stairs to my lovely room..." and you hear a door
open and a crowd talking as the music plays on. that is totally
lifted out of Björk's "There's More To Life Than This" where it
appears she's singing on a toilet of a crowded bar (milky bar).

which ties in with the interview he gave to the BBC round 1998
for the promotion of NPS when he mentioned "Joint 2 Joint" for
being on of those songs that just came to him, in his mind, in
an instant and just clicked and lived their own life.

in the same interview he applauded Björk for her daring stance
in music today and for doing what she does musically.

i just love it when a song has a bit more history to it than a
gliph in the liner notes about who plays on it.

smile

anyway, loving this song. the tap solo is really great too and
although i could probably live without her presence on the cut
i don't think Poet 99 is much of a hindrance. i just wish they
had given her a few better lines, lol.

oh and let's not forget that whole

"oh great now you think you're my soul-mate" that's so cool
really nice bass in that part too. nice and up front.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #1 posted 10/25/06 8:09am

IstenSzek

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another Emancipation track that was on that same compilation
was "White Mansion" which is another one of a select few songs
on that album that i really love.

together with "My Computer" they really have something special
going on. shame that Emancipation didn't have more variety and
was dragged down by that weird production that keeps balancing
between great and totally plastic.

the good songs on that album are absolutely top notch quality
material but they should have been interlaced with more "gold"
like production material. more guitar, more live drums and the
occasional really weird song like 'papa' or 'solo' just for a
bit more of an entire spread of the prince pallet.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #2 posted 10/25/06 8:12am

fms

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I like how Prince goes through at least three different styles of music before it's over. Definitely my favorite from Emancipation. Totally daring and inspired, it really stands out amidst the more conservative stuff.
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Reply #3 posted 10/25/06 8:16am

XxAxX

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emancipation is brilliant, imo
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Reply #4 posted 10/25/06 8:22am

pkidwell

one of my favs
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Reply #5 posted 10/25/06 8:51am

shockadelicaa

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Great song, definitely one of my favorites off "Emancipation".
The vocals are amazing. biggrin
"You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride"
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Reply #6 posted 10/25/06 9:01am

metalorange

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I really love the song, especially the way it goes through completely different segments. Great bass sound on it, my favourite bit is when he says "Come with me, 4 those who wanna change/But nothing comes 4 free" in that deep electronic voice.

IstenSzek said:



anyway. something i've always found striking is that segment in
the song where prince goes

"up the stairs to my lovely room..." and you hear a door
open and a crowd talking as the music plays on. that is totally
lifted out of Björk's "There's More To Life Than This" where it
appears she's singing on a toilet of a crowded bar (milky bar).


Well to be pedantic there isn't any party noise precisely at that point. I think you're referring to the earlier bit after he says "Come upstairs 2 my room" and then there's the Poet 99 rap. When he later says "Up the stairs to my lovely room" there is a door opening, but then it is silent apart from Prince singing. There is party noise right at the start of the track, also. Not hearing the Bjork track you mentioned I have no idea if it is lifted from that - it would seem strange since Prince is perfectly capable of generating his own party music, as shown on the Eye No/Alphabet St. Joy In Repetion segment.

Another great bit to this song, you have the seduction, then suddenly he stops the flow with "Oh great, now you think you're my soul mate" which is quite harsh, he's basically slept with this woman then he's saying, 'hey, because we did that don't mean we're suddenly an item or anything!'.
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Reply #7 posted 10/25/06 10:29am

thekidsgirl

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I love this cut too

Its one of the reasons I used to only listen to disc 2 of Emancipation when I
first got that set.

I discovered the other 2 cds like a year later lol
If you will, so will I
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Reply #8 posted 10/25/06 10:33am

origmnd

do it LIVE LIVE LIVE

a LIVE performance is coming
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Reply #9 posted 10/25/06 10:44am

Cloudbuster

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XxAxX said:

emancipation is brilliant, imo


nod Surprisingly little filler considering it's a 3 disc set, imo. There's only about half a dozen tracks I'm not fond of.

And Joint 2 Joint! drool
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Reply #10 posted 10/25/06 5:20pm

wlcm2thdwn

Very sexy!
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Reply #11 posted 10/25/06 5:36pm

thesexofit

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Cloudbuster said:

XxAxX said:

emancipation is brilliant, imo


nod Surprisingly little filler considering it's a 3 disc set, imo. There's only about half a dozen tracks I'm not fond of.

And Joint 2 Joint! drool



Thats about the same here. But iam the only fucker who likes "mr happy" aswell. lol
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Reply #12 posted 10/25/06 9:37pm

sexxydancer

Joint 2 Joint is cool!
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Reply #13 posted 10/25/06 9:47pm

Daniella

Sex me
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Reply #14 posted 10/26/06 2:11am

BoySimon

Mr Happy makes me smile.
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Reply #15 posted 10/26/06 2:11am

lovebird

Joint 2 Joint is one of my faves.

"You don't even know what cereal I like" I love that line. I'm thinking only the genius of Prince could think up some of the lines in the song.
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Reply #16 posted 10/26/06 2:53am

BoySimon

The Savion Glover touch is pretty cool too.

Probably my fave track of all the disks of Emancipation... even though it's not on disk III, which is probably the best... or is disk I... I'm never sure.

I remember this album very clearly. I got a lot of exposure to it, quite close up. It was exciting and then so very disappointing that the momentum of the project was sacraficed. Hey-ho, that's Prince for you, I suppose.
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Reply #17 posted 10/26/06 3:42am

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IstenSzek said:



"up the stairs to my lovely room..." and you hear a door
open and a crowd talking as the music plays on. that is totally
lifted out of Björk's "There's More To Life Than This" where it
appears she's singing on a toilet of a crowded bar (milky bar).




.....and that part always reminded me of "All we ever look for" by Kate Bush where Björk obviously has lifted her idea from.
[Edited 10/26/06 3:46am]
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Reply #18 posted 10/26/06 7:48am

Oneluv3121

this song is awesome..until it gets to the "3 minute" mark then it sux and becomes really annoying all bcuz of Poet 99's rappin. ..if i new of a good program that could take out parts in songs, i would take out her rappin part.
she said LOVE ME,...LOVE ME..theres Joy In repetition.
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Reply #19 posted 10/26/06 8:24am

Illustrator

That's how I live my days.
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Reply #20 posted 10/26/06 8:58am

Oneluv3121

so is Prince actually talking about a JOINT in this song? couldve sworn prince never done drugs
she said LOVE ME,...LOVE ME..theres Joy In repetition.
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Reply #21 posted 10/26/06 8:59am

IstenSzek

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metalorange said:

I really love the song, especially the way it goes through completely different segments. Great bass sound on it, my favourite bit is when he says "Come with me, 4 those who wanna change/But nothing comes 4 free" in that deep electronic voice.

IstenSzek said:



anyway. something i've always found striking is that segment in
the song where prince goes

"up the stairs to my lovely room..." and you hear a door
open and a crowd talking as the music plays on. that is totally
lifted out of Björk's "There's More To Life Than This" where it
appears she's singing on a toilet of a crowded bar (milky bar).


Well to be pedantic there isn't any party noise precisely at that point. I think you're referring to the earlier bit after he says "Come upstairs 2 my room" and then there's the Poet 99 rap. When he later says "Up the stairs to my lovely room" there is a door opening, but then it is silent apart from Prince singing. There is party noise right at the start of the track, also. Not hearing the Bjork track you mentioned I have no idea if it is lifted from that - it would seem strange since Prince is perfectly capable of generating his own party music, as shown on the Eye No/Alphabet St. Joy In Repetion segment.

Another great bit to this song, you have the seduction, then suddenly he stops the flow with "Oh great, now you think you're my soul mate" which is quite harsh, he's basically slept with this woman then he's saying, 'hey, because we did that don't mean we're suddenly an item or anything!'.


no, no, i didn't mean he lifted the actual party noise from the björk track.
he just lifted the idea of the atmosphere from it. like walking into another
room and having the vocals change along with that and feeling the crowd talk
coming closer.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #22 posted 10/26/06 9:25am

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Oneluv3121 said:

so is Prince actually talking about a JOINT in this song? couldve sworn prince never done drugs


I think he means joint as in your body joints.
"I could lick you joint to joint"
"You could say I'm a terminal case/You could burn up my clothes/Smash up my ride...well, maybe not the ride"
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Reply #23 posted 10/26/06 11:18am

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I like this tune, one of my favourites off disc 2 of Emancipation, quite hipnotic and strangely addictive!
I am Princes love child!
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Reply #24 posted 10/26/06 12:09pm

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IstenSzek said:


no, no, i didn't mean he lifted the actual party noise from the björk track.
he just lifted the idea of the atmosphere from it. like walking into another
room and having the vocals change along with that and feeling the crowd talk
coming closer.


I think you'd be hard put to prove he got the idea from the Bjork track, as I said he's done the party sounds himself as far back as the mid-80s and I wouldn't be surprised if someone else had done something similar even earlier.
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Reply #25 posted 10/26/06 1:54pm

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This is the song that pulled me in. I had it on the shelf for two years but that song got me to listen to the whole thing after all that time.
" a newborn child knows nothing of destruction, nothing of love & hate"
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Reply #26 posted 10/27/06 7:58am

Tom

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I remember them playing this in the background just before the 1996 live Emancipation concert that aired on MTV. They just showed the cover of the album and kept playing this, for several minutes.

I like the song alot, and wish the rest of the album were in a similar approach. It was fun in the same way alot of his BSides were, kinda bizzare, kinky and quirky, not a blatant attempt to be a radio friendly hit song, but cool in it's own right.

White Mansion is hands down my fav track from that album. smile
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