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Thread started 10/20/06 4:48pm

BELL6983

Prince Make's Bad Videos!

Prince's lastest music isn't the problem,maybe it's his god awful videos.They do not go with the premise of he tryig to get across.And his videos are basicly in concert forum.Maybe if his videos are more colorful and exciting then maybe his videos would get more playing time and people would understand his music much better.
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Reply #1 posted 10/20/06 5:27pm

wlcm2thdwn

Send him an Email, I'm sure he cares about your opinion lol
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Reply #2 posted 10/20/06 5:27pm

DanceWme

wlcm2thdwn said:

Send him an Email, I'm sure he cares about your opinion lol

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Reply #3 posted 10/20/06 6:50pm

sexxydancer

I disagree completely..
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Reply #4 posted 10/20/06 7:15pm

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I think you misunderstand the intent of Bell6938's thread. He wrote, "Prince Make's Bad Videos!" which, if one will note, has an apostrophe followed by an "s", making it possessive. Therefore, either "Prince Make" is a person with the first name of Prince and last name of Make who has bad videos or else Prince has a brand, a make, if you will, like a car (Toyota being a make of car) that has bad videos, the "make" being NPG Productions, which has bad videos.
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Reply #5 posted 10/20/06 7:17pm

ElCapitan

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In other breaking news, Prince is actually very short!
"What kind of fuck ending is that?"
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Reply #6 posted 10/20/06 7:40pm

StillDirrty

I love Batdance! biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 10/21/06 2:27am

FuNkeNsteiN

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violetorgangrinder said:

I think you misunderstand the intent of Bell6938's thread. He wrote, "Prince Make's Bad Videos!" which, if one will note, has an apostrophe followed by an "s", making it possessive. Therefore, either "Prince Make" is a person with the first name of Prince and last name of Make who has bad videos or else Prince has a brand, a make, if you will, like a car (Toyota being a make of car) that has bad videos, the "make" being NPG Productions, which has bad videos.

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Reply #8 posted 10/21/06 3:09am

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Prince's videos have always sucked!

Especially the independant 90s ones with a shoe-string budget.
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Reply #9 posted 10/21/06 3:12am

NouveauDance

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From what he's said about them in the past, Prince has largely seen them as perfunctory marketing pieces, not the career-defining articles that acts like MJ and Madonna treat them as.

Secondary to the music that is.
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Reply #10 posted 10/21/06 3:44am

thedance

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razz I DON'T AGREE!!!

I love his videos 1981 to 1995,

Controversy,
1999,
When Doves Cry,
Raspberry Beret,
Kiss,
Mountains,
Alphabet St.,
Batdance,
Sexy MF,
7,
The Most Beautiful Girl....,
Gold

I guess I could name at least 20 great ones!!

cool
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Reply #11 posted 10/21/06 4:51am

metalorange

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NouveauDance said:

From what he's said about them in the past, Prince has largely seen them as perfunctory marketing pieces, not the career-defining articles that acts like MJ and Madonna treat them as.

Secondary to the music that is.


Well, he used to care about them, according to an interview with Alan Leeds:

He had just spent the entire day in the studio creating still another funky masterpiece - I can't remember the song, it might have been something for "Lovesexy"...

On this particular day, he called my office and said, "Hey, come downstairs a minute - I've got something to play for you."

Such calls weren't rare but he seldom volunteered to play something unless he was truly excited about it, so I raced to the studio. When he would play something new for you, he'd often dance around the studio, illustrating the songs nuances or emphasize certain parts by singing along in your ear so you wouldn't miss a lyric. On this day, by the third time through the high volume playback, he began shouting his concept for a video clip! I was astounded - not only had he created the song from scratch in a single day but he already had a video concept!

After the playback stopped he saw the puzzled look on my face and quizzed me about it. I said, "I can't believe you already have a video in mind".
He responded somewhat snidely, "Alan, don't you get it? These kids today don't hear music like we do! They have to SEE music. That's what MTV has done. I have to think that way."

In retrospect, it was hardly the most profound statement in the world, but it was an awakening for me - a reminder that the more experience one has in the music business, the more one's liable to get stuck in their ways of thinking.


I would say he has made some fantastic videos, and broke the ground for black artists on MTV along with MJ, but he has also made some very uninspiring videos as well. I think you can say his output quality has been erratic, I mean look at even 3121, Te Amo and Black Sweat where high quality, then Fury is just a quickly knocked out badly shot performance.
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Reply #12 posted 10/21/06 5:10am

Isolar

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Prince has never really been that intrested in to music videos, and visuals in music. I think Raspberry Beret is Prince's best music video, it's a cool and underrated video. I also like 1999,Kiss, Mountatins and Batdance.
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Reply #13 posted 10/21/06 7:14am

gyro34

Yeap, but he looks so pretty in them.
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Reply #14 posted 10/21/06 7:32am

sosgemini

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metalorange said:

NouveauDance said:

From what he's said about them in the past, Prince has largely seen them as perfunctory marketing pieces, not the career-defining articles that acts like MJ and Madonna treat them as.

Secondary to the music that is.


Well, he used to care about them, according to an interview with Alan Leeds:

He had just spent the entire day in the studio creating still another funky masterpiece - I can't remember the song, it might have been something for "Lovesexy"...

On this particular day, he called my office and said, "Hey, come downstairs a minute - I've got something to play for you."

Such calls weren't rare but he seldom volunteered to play something unless he was truly excited about it, so I raced to the studio. When he would play something new for you, he'd often dance around the studio, illustrating the songs nuances or emphasize certain parts by singing along in your ear so you wouldn't miss a lyric. On this day, by the third time through the high volume playback, he began shouting his concept for a video clip! I was astounded - not only had he created the song from scratch in a single day but he already had a video concept!

After the playback stopped he saw the puzzled look on my face and quizzed me about it. I said, "I can't believe you already have a video in mind".
He responded somewhat snidely, "Alan, don't you get it? These kids today don't hear music like we do! They have to SEE music. That's what MTV has done. I have to think that way."

In retrospect, it was hardly the most profound statement in the world, but it was an awakening for me - a reminder that the more experience one has in the music business, the more one's liable to get stuck in their ways of thinking.


I would say he has made some fantastic videos, and broke the ground for black artists on MTV along with MJ, but he has also made some very uninspiring videos as well. I think you can say his output quality has been erratic, I mean look at even 3121, Te Amo and Black Sweat where high quality, then Fury is just a quickly knocked out badly shot performance.



wow...nice quotes.....


yeah...prince's videos are mainly crap...but, because he shoots his load so often he's gotten lucky and made some great ones too.
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Reply #15 posted 10/21/06 4:03pm

ThePunisher

What was his most expensive video? You have to spend some money if you want quality.
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Reply #16 posted 10/21/06 5:35pm

BELL6983

Prince shot Blacksweat at his house and basically stood there.Maybe he should get Hype Williams to direct his videos.
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Reply #17 posted 10/22/06 1:10am

FuNkeNsteiN

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BELL6983 said:

Maybe he should get Hype Williams to direct his videos

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Reply #18 posted 10/22/06 2:23am

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Isolar said:

Prince has never really been that intrested in to music videos, and visuals in music. I think Raspberry Beret is Prince's best music video, it's a cool and underrated video. I also like 1999,Kiss, Mountatins and Batdance.

wow, I just love how Prince fans will ignore facts that contradict their position just so they can continue their own delusional ideas of who Prince is, which isn't who he is at all but only what they want or wish him to be.

did you not read the quote right above you from Alan Leeds? creating videos obviously were important to him if that is how the audience wanted to listen to his music. Prince seems extremely interested in adapting to a changing environment in which music was also experienced visually and seems to have not only embraced it but spent alot of energy to ensure his vision of his music was produced. this isn't a knock on the quality, but the ignorant position that he wasn't interested just to defend the poor quality of his videos.
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Reply #19 posted 10/22/06 4:54am

metalorange

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BELL6983 said:

Prince shot Blacksweat at his house and basically stood there.Maybe he should get Hype Williams to direct his videos.


Doesn't matter as long as it was well shot. Prince shot Te Amo Corazon in Morocco and dived into a swimming pool directed by Salma Hayek, your point is?
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Reply #20 posted 10/22/06 5:56am

Isolar

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dumbass said:

Isolar said:

Prince has never really been that intrested in to music videos, and visuals in music. I think Raspberry Beret is Prince's best music video, it's a cool and underrated video. I also like 1999,Kiss, Mountatins and Batdance.

wow, I just love how Prince fans will ignore facts that contradict their position just so they can continue their own delusional ideas of who Prince is, which isn't who he is at all but only what they want or wish him to be.

did you not read the quote right above you from Alan Leeds? creating videos obviously were important to him if that is how the audience wanted to listen to his music. Prince seems extremely interested in adapting to a changing environment in which music was also experienced visually and seems to have not only embraced it but spent alot of energy to ensure his vision of his music was produced. this isn't a knock on the quality, but the ignorant position that he wasn't interested just to defend the poor quality of his videos.


I'm not defending the poor quaility of Prince's music video's. I've heard that Prince wasn't really that intrested in music video's. I also don't think Prince is a visually talented person, who knows how to make his music visual.
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Reply #21 posted 10/22/06 6:35am

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Isolar said:

dumbass said:


wow, I just love how Prince fans will ignore facts that contradict their position just so they can continue their own delusional ideas of who Prince is, which isn't who he is at all but only what they want or wish him to be.

did you not read the quote right above you from Alan Leeds? creating videos obviously were important to him if that is how the audience wanted to listen to his music. Prince seems extremely interested in adapting to a changing environment in which music was also experienced visually and seems to have not only embraced it but spent alot of energy to ensure his vision of his music was produced. this isn't a knock on the quality, but the ignorant position that he wasn't interested just to defend the poor quality of his videos.


I'm not defending the poor quaility of Prince's music video's. I've heard that Prince wasn't really that intrested in music video's. I also don't think Prince is a visually talented person, who knows how to make his music visual.


I've heard that Prince at least WAS interested in music videos in their heyday, I heard this from Alan Leeds in the above quote. Where is it that you heard Prince wasn't really that interested? Maybe you can cite some reliable source, but I often find when people say stuff like that, actually they never heard it anywhere but have just formulated the opinion on their own and then come to believe it is commonly known.
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Reply #22 posted 10/22/06 7:05am

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VIDEOS THAT ARE XCELLENT

When Doves Cry
Raspberry Beret
18 & Over
Zannalee
Greatest Romance
Partyman (Extended)
Blue Light
Betcha By Golly Wow!
The One

those videos dont suck
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Reply #23 posted 10/22/06 10:20am

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3121twothousand7 said:

VIDEOS THAT ARE XCELLENT

When Doves Cry
Raspberry Beret
18 & Over
Zannalee
Greatest Romance
Partyman (Extended)
Blue Light
Betcha By Golly Wow!
The One

those videos dont suck

your opinion

i think they were shite lol
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Reply #24 posted 10/22/06 11:58am

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metalorange said:

Isolar said:



I'm not defending the poor quaility of Prince's music video's. I've heard that Prince wasn't really that intrested in music video's. I also don't think Prince is a visually talented person, who knows how to make his music visual.


I've heard that Prince at least WAS interested in music videos in their heyday, I heard this from Alan Leeds in the above quote. Where is it that you heard Prince wasn't really that interested? Maybe you can cite some reliable source, but I often find when people say stuff like that, actually they never heard it anywhere but have just formulated the opinion on their own and then come to believe it is commonly known.
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Somewhere in the late 90's (I'd like to say '97 or '98 he did an interview where he said "videos were for kids." He went on to insinuate that he only did them because he was expected to.
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Reply #25 posted 10/22/06 12:29pm

Themovie

Some classic vids...sign o the time's is the most original ever...dirty and moody...to mention aids in a song was more dangerous than Prince turning into a ware wolf..prince has never been mainstraem and he will never be.
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Ifsixwuz9 said:

Somewhere in the late 90's (I'd like to say '97 or '98 he did an interview where he said "videos were for kids." He went on to insinuate that he only did them because he was expected to.


That was the quote I was thinking of.... And as we know, Prince likes to say one thing and do another.

Saying this following the bucketloads of unreleased videos he shot in the mid-90s.
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Reply #27 posted 10/22/06 1:33pm

ladygirl99

There are some decent videos that I like
Dirty Mind
Uptown
I wanna be your lover (feature the band)
When Doves Cry
1999
Automatic
Raspberry Beret
Kiss
Girls and Boys
Partyman
Somebody Somebody
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Reply #28 posted 10/22/06 5:43pm

syrinx7

The way I interpreted Prince as quoted by Alan Leeds was that Prince understood the role that videos play in the music business today, understood the necessity for making them and in that sense was interested. I didn't, from that quote, get the impression he enjoyed it or thought videos enhance the listening experience in any way. I have the impression he thinks people are "missing out" on the listening experience by having to have a visual.
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Reply #29 posted 10/22/06 10:29pm

BELL6983

metalorange said:

BELL6983 said:

Prince shot Blacksweat at his house and basically stood there.Maybe he should get Hype Williams to direct his videos.


Doesn't matter as long as it was well shot. Prince shot Te Amo Corazon in Morocco and dived into a swimming pool directed by Salma Hayek, your point is?
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My point is that Prince do not make great videos.The Blacksweat video was lazy/lackluster and could have been far better as well as entertaining.I believe that if Prince can get his act together on the video tip he could sell way more albums.
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