umm, mmmm, hmmm....

i'm a completely self-absorbed schmuck.... plus i am PRO SOLITAIRE... therefore i could have possibly have met dozens of people - but i get this artifical glaze thing going in public and IGNORE everyone.....



lmao - so sad but so true!!!

Shyra said:

CASINO!!! Best movie ever!

ScarLett said:

shit!! I do that too.... It's really not good!

I'm working on a book title right now...The Mean Bastard Formerly Known as Prince: Mean Bastard.

Come on. We all have our good and bad days. I'm sure the people that cut me off in traffic everyday here in Dallas think I'm a mean bastard too when I honk my horn, press my face against the glass of the windshield and mouth off whatever unedited and not-very-well-thougt-out opinions in the general direction of the rude driver, and then I offer a special hand gesture in their direction that I'm pretty sure I invented, one that involves the use of the extension of my middle finger, waving it in their general direction.

I'm sure a man like Prince faces stress on daily levels that most of us couldn't handle alone, not to mention with the elegance and charm that Prince does so gracefully. Being Prince, so artistic, avant garde, and professional about ALL OF IT, he's bound to lose his cool from time to time (who doesn't?), and he's entitled to that. He's just a man, surely he acts out from time to time. If he's like me, he recognizes it when he does it, and is repentent if he's truly sorry, and tries to reverse what he's able to reverse.

Now, if he were a mean bastard, abusing people maliciously, putting others down so he could feel as if he were better than them, then that would prove something about him that I've always expected. I'm warning you all, this next part is shocking and may offend some of you (especially you Prince). But I just can't help but think of all the free press I'll receive out of it. (Spoiler Alert!!!) Prince is my father.

There. Now you all know! The shame I feel, the confusion, the icky-ness of it all. (However, it does explain why he was always at Thanksgiving dinner so many years growing up. After dinner, I remember we'd attempt to visit with each other, trying to carry on a conversations which interested us both, not succeeding very well ( I mean, he knew absolutely NOTHING about the TRANSFORMERS cartoons or toys, so I tried to pretend that I was interested in him and understood why he wore black bikini briefs on stage and rode a flying white horse (puh-leeze! how dumb do I look?), but mostly e ended up just staring uncomfortably at the olive green shag carped adorning my Mother's living room, shifting nervously. Sometimes he'd try to teach me dance moves, but I was never a good dancer. "The splits hurt!" I'd complain. "Don't focus on that," he'd offer. "Just give me 25 more of them. And would putting smile on your face while you're doing it kill ya'?" Sweating and miserable and just wanting the physical regimen to stop, I'd ask "Now, who are you again?""Just a freind of your pa's," he'd say. "And you didn't touch the ground on that one. I'm not counting it. Splits! Go!"

Now, if he were a world class diva, not knowing how to relate to the common man, feeling everyone should be catering to him at all times, and that he were a better man than his brethren because of his gift, then I guess that would make hime a mean bastard. I wouldn't like that very much. If he were masochistic, and thrived on creating drama between people, let fame get to his head, and took delight in creating difficult or miserable situations in the lives of others, then I probably wouldn't be on his fan site typing this letter. There are dozens of other things I could me doing: browsing Little Richard's web-site, reading a comic book of which I am a rabid collector, despite the messes that Marvel has released lately like "House of M", "Decimation", and "Civl War". But for some reason, no, I'm here, typing this, and enjoying every second of it. More on thisin a moment.

If Prince were a mean bastard? The media can make him whatever they want him to be at the moment. "Artist. Eccentric. Womanizer. Fanatic. Genius. Difficult." They could make us all mean he was a mean bastard if they chose to. However, I listen to the man's music, and the messages held deep inside them. A man filled with such love of life and passion in his work could not be a mean bastard.

He's a smart media man,able to make a mountain out of a mole hill, and vice versa, and knows how to get our attention (see? I've taken at least 30 mins out of my life to type this e-mail. I could be coming up with a small grassroots idea I'm working on to get Prince back on the radio where so much of his music belongs, and may start on that next week. Don't know if it will work, but that's not going to stop me. Intead, I'm here, posting my random but happy thoughts out into the ether, and happy to be doing it.)

I'll leave you all with this thought. It's from one or the inerludes on the
Rainbow Children album. [color=darkblue][b]"The Banished Ones approaching the palace shouted obscenities. They tried 2confuse the Rainbow Children and dethrone their king. Using the lies promotedby the whosepapers, hellavisions, and scagazines- The Banished Ones constructed a Digital Garden around the palace that extended throughout the world....As 4 the Rainbow Children,they began deconstructing the Digital Garden. Door to door they went in search of those willing to do The Work."
[/b][/color]

Are you willing to do the work?
I am.

Doesn't change the music or my enjoyment of it.

HOWEVER, it depends on the circumstances. If Prince is using the urinal or obviously hurrying to a car is it the wise course to approach the guy?

What exactly do you want to say to Prince or hope to achieve by saying it?

If the setting was right and very informal, and if Prince was relaxed enough, I may approach him, but even then I'd be unsure. Its not as if I have an inherent right to that kind of access is it?

I have been in very close quarters with Prince, with very few people present (maybe 20 or so) and he hung out and acknowledged us all and seemed very nice. That was good enough for me.

I went to one of his Love 4 One Another after-parties a few years back. The location was announced on the PA system after the concert got out and they had a big sign up on the front of the club announcing Prince would be there. They also had triple cover that night. And of course rumor was he was going to play. But instead he spent most of the night in a private room in the back of the club. The only time he came out was when he had his security guards chase everyone out of the upper deck where they had the pool tables so he could play. The only time anyone ever saw him was when he was being escorted up the stairs by a wall of men in black suits. Allegedly, the triple cover was going to the Love 4 One another charity. But did we get a performance? No? A smile? A wave? A thank you? No. All we got was kicked off our pool table. Then, after sticking it out till almost 4:00 AM, still clinging to the hope we might get to witness one of those legendary after-hour shows he left. And so did we. The funny thing was as we were walking back to the car we saw his limo pulling out of the alley behind the club and my friend yells in a dead-on Morris Day impression, "Come back! Ya long haired faggot!". There are some things money can’t buy. For everything else there’s Mastercard.

Oh. How sad.

I had the pleasure of seeing him with about 500 fans in an intimate gathering at
Dallas dance club Red Jacket after the One Night Alone tour several years ago.

It was magic. Unadulterated magic. Don't give up on him. For your sake try to catch another one sometime.

Until then I'd only listened to his albums and seen concert footage on video.

Nothing compares to him live. Remember that.

All glory to the hyno-toad.

Lots of girls I've met that have me him seem to think he is a "mean bastard" So who knows, perhaps he really is.

My good friend met him once in Minneapolis...she walked up to him but didn't realize it was him untill she got up close...she tried having a conversation but he was basically just like not really listening to her, giving her one word awnsers, and kind passively agressively telling her to go away through his body lanugage. I was like "What kind of vibe does he have?" She was like, "uh...I don't know...kinda a jackass vibe?" She said the way he peered out of his purple tinted sunglasses made her feel very self concious. He wasn't that rude to her though, she just felt like he wanted her to leave him alone, she didn't wanna be all "OMG YOU'RE PRINCE!" she tried to not let on that she recognized him she was pretty low key about the whole thing.

Then another girl who was drunk and saw him at the Mpls cafe years ago and sat on his bodygaurds lap and turned and tried to talk to Prince..she said he tried to pretend to be talking on his cell phone as means to avoid her.

So yeah I think it would be in your best interest if you are a fan not bother him if you don't want an embarrassing experience. It would be exciting I'm sure for any fan to see him at one unexpected moment out and about but I wouldn't even try to approach him. He is intimidating with a capitol I!!! I'd rather never meet him and daydream about the interaction with him that have any sort of negative one in reality.

sgmusic said:

LOLz but isnt that how samuel talks usually?! you all seen that dave chapelle skit

I heard that a fan approached him at a nightclub in 1996,around the time of 'Emancipation'.The fan said "I love your new album",to which Prince replied "And your point would be what?"


I could so see him saying that!

FIML said:

at least we will never be guilty of stalking or harassing anyone...

Everything is such a HIGH STANDARD when it comes to Prince's fans

Thats why I'll never blame him if he is/was mean; somebody needs to shake ya'll asses back to reality and let you know that a human will NEVER live up to anybody's expectations.
[Edited 10/9/06 11:50am]

Harlepolis said:

**** I agree with u. Prince is human like us, so its possible he is nervous bcuz he has some problem.
If I met Prince I wouldnt b scared 2 greet him. I would look at him (body language speaks louder than words) and notice if he was willing 2 pursue the conversation or not... If not... Its his right 2 HAVE HIS OWN SPACES and 2 b left alone 2 reflect and think in SILENCE....

December1984 said:

Arn't you missing those parties? - I did always enjoy it to read the reports. I think that were great parties at The Park. Now it's like nothing more does happend there, or I don't know.

SoulAlive said:

(smile)"my point would be, I'm gonna see if I can return it..."(deadpan)

If he really said this, It had to be because he has a hard time with the compliment and he just wants it to go away. There's no way he could think that's a proper reply...or even a cool thing to do.

Unless someone is directly rude to an artist or threatening to them or their family in some way, they should go out of their way to at least be cordial. If it wasn't for the fans he might still be...uhhh

OF COURSE HE IS A MILLION THINGS NOT TO MENTION A BASTARD WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT IS WHY HE IS KIND OF INTERESTING I LUV A BATTLE OF THE MINDS IT MAKES ME LAUGH

sgmusic said:

I would take a BANANA CREAM PIE as a 'you-better-be-nice-to-me' backup policy...I don't care who you are, there is no reason to be rude to people!

Prince is mean. Bastard? No

Smooth21 said:

Never said he was a mean bastard..I don't know the man. I've never met him. What I said was " IF you met Prince and he was a mean bastard" Also, the question is not whether or not he has mean tendencies because I'm sure we all do... most humans have mean tendencies. Would you still love and support him and his music and patronize his products if you met him and he was mean to you.
I used my experience with meeting a celebrity as an example.

If I did meet him and he was mean, it would make me lose respect for him. I feel all people, especially those in the public eye should be aware enough to know that they wouldn't have the things they do had they not been given to them from above. Have some class and treat everyone with respect. You're just the vessel, you're not the source. It could all be over in the blink of an eye.

sgmusic said:

I know what ur saying. I never said u said he was a mean bastard either. I know him and I was just stating what I know.

Thank You

Smooth21 said:

He's just plain mean...all the time, never a nice guy? or is he just capable of being mean like the rest of us? just wondering.

Shorty said:

He's just like the rest of us

Smooth21 said:

well then I guess he's not so mean after all

Shorty said:

HA!

Smooth21 said:

I bet u dont even know P

I, also am a mean bastard.















.....you buncha useless fuck-heads.

oddly enuff eye only new the prince, fans and the media dpicted.

mean...
rude...
no eye contact...
silent...
brooding...
selfish...
self centered...

when eye actually MET him...which eye did bcause what did eye have 2 lose?
eye ended up b ing just as confused...bcause

he was polite...
focused...and made very much eye contact
nteractive
playful
sensitive
appreciative
emotional
as spiritual as any one KNOWING there is GOD
talkative....even accomod8ting.
a guy yelled out he wanted 2 play with prince....his guitars were onstage...he grinned and told the guy 2 go 4 it.

the guy bust a move and started playing purple rain...prince, b ing prince shook his head, like he was saying no.
the guy stopped playing, and ran off.

prince was shaking his head, and SAYING the guy was 2 good, don't stop playing.
the guy obviously never heard prince appreci8ting his playing bcause he was so quick 2 think prince was dissing him.

back when eye met him...he gave hugs, took gifts, and toler8d many nutz.
he answered questions, and asked them....

most of the ppl there obviously were media trained as well....they mostly sat n awe of the fact this was NOT the Prince they had come 2 no, most didn't no how 2 rel8 2 this compassion8 man, so they just sat and stared at him.
he seemed 2 understand even this, and just smiled all the more.

n answer 2 ur ?uestion...eye never met the bastard prince. EVER.
and eye met him over 7xs.
a few times he seemed very tired, but he was still cordial.
he threw out sees valentine candy 2 an aftershow crowd up front, cause he said he didn't eat it.

heck eye ate my piece.

now eye wear it somewhere on my body as fat, a blood cell, skin, a mole, 4ever.....as opposed 2 moldering n the fridge.


meet him, if u can ppl, u will b pleasantly surprised.
remember he has a DRY sense of humor, all Gems do..."and ur point is?" is not mean, a Gem is daring u 2 make a point, nspite of what seems mpossible....had u persisted, u would have mpressed him...he wouldn't show u he was mpressed mmedi8tly but he would b never the less.

if u run from a Gem...they think u really weren't all that nterested n what u were asking anyway....we think OUTSIDE the elephant box!

[Edited 10/13/06 3:45am]

anon said:

I would have said "My point is,your CD is very good,but you are a prick"