uptown1 said:

Yes, me and a friend of mine noticed that also. They tricked us! (at least some of us). They probably did it to fill space because they lost the original performances from that night.

joeycoco said:

OH MY GOD I DID NOT THINK THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!?!?!?!?!
But for the first time EVER I agree with you...

Ladies and gentlemen...Hell has froze over.

'nuff said.

chookalana said:[quote]

joeycoco said:

theC
See miracles can happen,even at the org

Roadhouse Garden, Xenophobia...the reason Prince hasn't release some of this coveted stuff, I think, is because he hasn't yet figured out how to route the bootleggers, but also because he doesn't have to.

The Internet has made it even harder to protect his copyrights, but there's this core group of us who would buy any and all official releases...and the rest of the stuff circulating is just gravy. Surely there's a viable business model in all this...surely he could still make a respectable profit...surely there's enough product that can be easily reproduced...music is like software; the development costs are mostly front-loaded and the rest is profit...

Why doesn't he just set it all free? BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE TO. I really believe that Prince calls the shots. He won't ever go bankrupt. He's doing fine. He doesn't need us. We need him. If we bitch, the music will be released to our grandchildren instead of us.

So I just sit here quietly and wait for his next move.

On the flip-side, there's more to life than Prince. There are some other very interesting artists out there. There's more to life than music. There are some very interesting ideas out there. Have fun and buy some jelly whenever it's on sale, but eat lobster, crab, and steak the rest of the time!

You people kill me. You always hear around the Org.."why doesn't Prince release some live stuff?" Now it looks like he's going to and like most Orgsters, your complaining. Figures.

Take my word for it. Wait for NPGMC version of the show. Not only will it have unparalled sound but it will be THE SHOW! The boot contains some songs that are NOT from the celebration, but from the NY show.

If Prince is finally taking on Sabotage & what's left of Thunderball, then good for him. As long as he plans on picking up the slack and releases albums like they do, only better.

They can put out a show in litterly 2-3weeks. He should be able to do the same.

So quit you bitching and enjoy what we've ALL been waiting for. A REAL PRINCE LIVE ALBUM. (7 CD'S NO LESS!).

complaing Orgsters

'nuff said.

What sad motherfuckers some of u are. A 7 disc live set of the 2002 Celebration (IF Prince really decide to send it to us), that would be a dream come true for me! 7 DISCS!!! And still people dare to complain. I don't know what the hell is wrong with some of you...

joeycoco said:

A curse upon U and your negetivity! You shall NEVER see the Dawn!

joeycoco said:[quote]

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I'm with you and RD on this. I would prefer to get the studio albums myself. And if Xenophobia Live is an added bonus, then great.



1. I agree; 2. Stop dreaming you know how Prince fans are

funkaholic1972 said:

Second that.

Keep in mind: this is in no way an announcement that this will actually be released, so... don't get too excited.

Ok now, I'm renewed.




Patiently waiting with great anticipation of the possible 7-cd in a box. Would this be too good to be true or what?

I will believe it when I have an official set in my hands, until then, I have learned to not expect a THING...

And those who have been around long enough, know how that goes.

.
[This message was edited Mon Aug 19 10:45:45 PDT 2002 by squirrelgrease]

rdhull said:

I don't know...I'm not holding my breath that's for sure...but it usually takes me awhile to get a boot anyway so...it's really no biggie. I hope he releases it, mostly unedited.

Here's an email that a friend sent me regarding the Bootleg issue

From: NPG Music Club
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 00:38
To: Abuse
Cc: FreeMyHeart.com
Subject: illegal use of Prince music

Hello

This is the official website for Prince emailing you because one of your users:

(edit: me)

Is posting illegal bootlegged music by Prince on his/her site here:

(edit: the location of the current mp3 download)

This is a clear violation of Prince's copyright.
We demand it be removed and any other unauthorized Prince music.
We have been informed that this user posts illegal MP3 files on a regular basis.

Love4oneanother,
The NPG Music Club
www.NPGMusicClub.com
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
---
From: FreeMyHeart.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 02:33
To: 'NPG Music Club'; 'Abuse'
Subject: RE: Illegal use of Prince music

To Whom It May Concern.

This reply is for the sole purpose on educating you on the difference between
what I am doing (sharing, non-profit), and what a bootlegger does (sell, profit.)
The main difference in what I am doing and what a bootlegger does is purpose.
What is my purpose? To introduce someone to Prince's brilliant guitar playing,
or whatever that song might be highlighting. What is a bootlegger's purpose?
To make a profit at the expense of an artist's fanbase. If you can't see this,
then please, read on.

As you already know, the entire week of June's celebration is being sold illegally
by bootleggers in Europe. Prince's admirers, the ones who already paid Prince $350
to go to these shows, are paying a lot of money to have official bootleg copies of
this material. Why? Because Prince doesn't take the initiative and release this
material through his music club. So unless someone pays at least $350 if they're a
member, or at least $700 if they're a non-member to go to these concerts, Prince
doesn't want this material ever heard? Is he really that naive?

Nearly every performance of Prince's from the past 20 years has been taped and
shared by admirers of his. Why? Because unlike his "Free The Music" promise/bullshit
message of 1995, he's as guilty as the bootleggers for taking his loyal fanbase
for all that he can get. Therefore, admirers of his continue to record his
concerts and share them freely. Yes, there are those that are out there that intend
to profit from those private recordings of his public performances. I agree that
those people should be stopped. It is why I do not put up the entire full-length
concerts, nor share them (in full form) with people with people I don't trust.
Unlike bootleggers, it's quite obvious that I am not one of those people out there
to profit from Prince's abilities. I simply put these songs up to introduce folks
(again) to him. Not everyone has seen him live. Most everyone (short of the sheep
Prince refers to as fams) believes that what Prince has been putting out since 1988
disguised as records is in fact actually subpar passionless material surrounding one
or two great songs (if that) per release.

In short, until my Internet Service Provider says "No," or until I receive a judge's
decision that says "No," I will continue doing what Prince promised in 1995 by
freeing the music in a non-profit format. My putting up a track or two a day of
unreleased material for the 500 people that visit FreeMyHeart.com per day isn't going
to harm Prince financially in any way whatsoever. In fact, I put up a link for folks
to support Prince by purchasing his most recent album. I understand his need to control
everything, but that is simply not, nor will it ever be possible. His continual glaring
lack of vision in this is surprising. (Not to mention disappointing -- coming from
someone who buys everything that Prince makes available at Tower Records. Yes, even
the God awful 1999 Remaster CD.)

Apparently Prince has not researched why the Grateful Dead are one of the most popular
bands of all-time. It was not because of their stellar performances (for which Prince
is well known for). It was not for their popular recordings/videos (they rarely released
any videos, and their official releases rarely made Billboard's charts.) Perhaps it's
time Prince should begin looking into why they were so incredibly successful financially.
Their admirers. They allowed their fans to *share* tapings of their live performances,
because they were intelligent enough to realize that they'd become even bigger fans and
spend even *more* of their income on Grateful Dead products, than if they'd sicced their
lawyers on every admirer who used the official Grateful Dead logo on their website, or
whine to ISP's about users that share a great performance of a song, or sue fanzines that
clearly love & respect them as artists. Not to shabby for a bunch of hippies.

Consider this before I go.
If given the choice, what do you think Prince's admirers would rather have? (This includes
current members of the NPG Music Club.)

A $100 yearly subscription to a members only club that has been known on a regular basis
not fulfill and/or mislead (see NPG Magazine, Crystal Ball, etc.)
OR
A 6-CD set of performances from the Celebration that costs $100 where they know exactly
what they're getting. (Meaning no chance of disappointment.) Current members would be
offered the chance for a full refund to their current subscription (they'd have to return
the One Nite Alone CD) to have this incredible unofficial 6-CD set.

Then, after you've realized the obvious answer to that question, you should take advantage
of that by putting up the following note on your graphic intensive/zero content website:
"Since you've been downloading the tracks from the Celebration from FreeMyHeart.com and
other websites, you didn't have to spend the $100 to buy a bootleg copy. Why not sign up
for another year with that $100 you saved?" (Feel free to rewrite/edit that with the
Prince-speak gibberish that a 44 year old man has no business using.)

Lastly, I want you to know that even if I stop putting up these songs, that admirers will
ALWAYS share Prince's music. It is simply Prince's bad business (lack of common) sense in
not realizing this and making these (and past) shows available for purchase through the NPGMC.

I've carbon copied this reply to the Hendrix estate & a contact that I have with Joni
Mitchell, to let them know that Prince was the sole person that profited from their music
recently. (By releasing Jimi's "Machine Gun" (renamed "Habibi") and Joni's "A Case Of You"
through his members only music club. My bet is that they've not received one cent of
royalties that they are within rights to having, since that material was only available to
folks that purchased them through selling $100 memberships to Prince's NPGMC music club.)
This is completely unnecessary though. Karma comes back around. When Prince's karma comes
around, it will be in the name of the Internal Revenue Service.

Thank you for your time,
Matthew
---
Not included in this response to the NPGMC email was the fact that I've only received
complaints from two sources about the songs that I've been putting up since early 2001.
Prince's NPGMC and Maverick Records. I could give a fuck about either of their views on
this matter, since neither of them respect those that put the food on their tables.
People like you and I.

CDs are still pricefixed in the $18.99 range. And since Prince became "free" from his
contract with Warner Bros, he has taken the stance to charge his once loyal fanbase
as much as he possibly can to see him perform when he has nobody to pay but himself and
a handful of people around him (unlike bands such as the Rolling Stones & U2 who charge
less and have to pay more people.)

For once upon a time artists like Prince, and corporations like Maverick/AOL/Time Warner,
it's about that bottom dollar. Being "#1 at the bank," and looking good to the stockholders.

Somewhere, someone forgot about the art, and why people like you and I spend our hard earned
money on records by Prince and artists at Maverick/AOL/Time Warner in the first place.
---
From: Protected
Subject: The NPGMC letter
Sent: Wed Aug 14 3:51am

Hi,

I've read the letter from the NPGMC and your response, and I must say that can try to
understand Prince's point of view, I think you're right. I mean, in concert, on record,
he is a damn genius. And I think when the people are at his concerts or the celebration
he really has a deep connection to them. But the way he runs things besides that, I cannot
understand. He knows that we'd love to have some live stuff here and there or some vault
songs. It's not gonna hurt him in any way, it will just make us a little happy and make us
join again next year.

I enjoy all the downloads from you and really like your site, thank you!

peace
---
From: A friend
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 06:47
To: FreeMyHeart.com
Subject: RE: illegal use of Prince music

what's up with that???

I can understand an artist not wanting certain things to be released. We know how he
feels about this, but not everyone can be a member of his club or pay the ticket price
to go see him...it is a far cry from seeing b. at $12-25 a head.
---
From: Frank
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 07:38
To: FreeMyHeart.com
Subject: FMH - Comment

Just finished reading your reply to the letter from the NPGMC Machine & I gotta agree.
He does make it hard to show the love don't he?

Damn. 'Lack of common sense' is, like you said, the best way to explain Mr Nelson's attitude...
---

You hit the nail right on the head with this response.

Again, I will say the only way I've been able to follow prince thru the years if from bootlegs. There is no way I would continue to pay full prices to see his concerts unless I've heard something from previous live shows.

Of course this would not come from him but from another source that I appreciate.

Wake up Mr. Nelson, you would have so much more support and love from you fans if you did YOUR part and touched more of us by releasing the real deal.

I will continue to buy boots until I see something else on the shelf. Then I will buy direct from you. Until then, I'll be happy to have my stuff first.

T.