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Reply #30 posted 09/20/06 9:16am

Graycap23

MickG said:

skywalker said:

1. What does "groundbreaking" mean?

If it means something Prince has never done before then I'd have to go with One Nite Alone....



Groundbreaking can't mean just doing something never done before. I wouldn't be ground breaking with a dildo up my ass on the kichen counter while dressed in paint and singing the star spangled banner.

That would just be stupid.

Ground breaking is therefore delicated to things undone and unmatched.


What the hell r u talking about?
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Reply #31 posted 09/20/06 9:25am

Graycap23

When one believes the hype
He MUST buy into the premise
I submit 2 u
That the premise is ALL wrong
4 it’s not EZ 2 be ground breaking
If no one listens 2 the words in your SONG

Prince is on another level
One U cannot reach
While U R busy saying a lot of NOTHING
He is busy………try 2 teach

U have labeled everything
Yet nothing comes 2 MINDS
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Reply #32 posted 09/20/06 9:41am

MickG

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Graycap23 said:

When one believes the hype
He MUST buy into the premise
I submit 2 u
That the premise is ALL wrong
4 it’s not EZ 2 be ground breaking
If no one listens 2 the words in your SONG

Prince is on another level
One U cannot reach
While U R busy saying a lot of NOTHING
He is busy………try 2 teach

U have labeled everything
Yet nothing comes 2 MINDS


Are you still in highschool too?
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #33 posted 09/20/06 9:46am

Graycap23

MickG said:

Graycap23 said:

When one believes the hype
He MUST buy into the premise
I submit 2 u
That the premise is ALL wrong
4 it’s not EZ 2 be ground breaking
If no one listens 2 the words in your SONG

Prince is on another level
One U cannot reach
While U R busy saying a lot of NOTHING
He is busy………try 2 teach

U have labeled everything
Yet nothing comes 2 MINDS


Are you still in highschool too?


Based on your silly rantings I have NO idea what 2 make of u.
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Reply #34 posted 09/20/06 9:47am

MickG

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Graycap23 said:

MickG said:



Are you still in highschool too?


Based on your silly rantings I have NO idea what 2 make of u.


Yeah, I get that alot.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
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Reply #35 posted 09/20/06 9:48am

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skywalker said:

Groundbreaking can't mean just doing something never done before. I wouldn't be ground breaking with a dildo up my ass on the kichen counter while dressed in paint and singing the star spangled banner.

That would just be stupid.

Ground breaking is therefore delicated to things undone and unmatched.


Dildo up your ass huh? Does that hurt your brain? Read what you wrote:



then you say

Ground breaking is therefore delicated to things undone


Do you see any contradictions in the Matrix, Neo? Take the other pill and wake yourself up before you start telling me the definition of "groundbreaking". I stand by my original answer.....

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Reply #36 posted 09/20/06 10:14am

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In no way shape or form am I bias. No one currently IMO can even come close to the level Prince is at with his music. So I consider all Prince albums groundbreaking. Even though some of his albums are just so-so I can't think of anyone in the same ballpark.
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Reply #37 posted 09/20/06 10:29am

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MickG said:

Groundbreaking? none. in the context I'd use that term anyway.


I guess you've not had your plus sign today....
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Reply #38 posted 09/20/06 11:09am

MickG

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wickyb said:

MickG said:

Groundbreaking? none. in the context I'd use that term anyway.


I guess you've not had your plus sign today....


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Reply #39 posted 09/20/06 11:37am

NDRU

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bublebath said:

by Prince?

hmmm


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Reply #40 posted 09/20/06 11:42am

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The Rainbow Children
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Reply #41 posted 09/20/06 2:48pm

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Rebeljuice said:

A black man dressed in black underpants, boots up to his thighs and a rain coat coming on stage playing rnb funk with heavy gutar, a high voice and a badass punk attitude as he masturbates his guitar... Thats pretty ground breaking.

Getting a major record deal as a teenager and being allowed to write, record, produce and throw in the kitchen sink... Thats pretty ground breaking.

Deciding to release a song, which consequently becomes one his biggest hits, without a bassline... Thats pretty ground breaking.

Putting on a musical extravaganza on a centre stage with cars, beds, basket ball hoops, clothes on acid and publicly killing off an alter ego... Thats pretty ground breaking.

harnessing the internet before it became fashionable... Thats pretty ground breaking

Creating Purple Rain, a sound that to this day defines Prince and his music.... Thats pretty ground breaking.

But, at the end of the day, the icon, the sound, the clothes, the whackiness, the aura and the legacy that is Prince is what is really ground breaking. Its not what he has done at any one stage in his career, its what he is as a whole that is truly ground breaking.



Hey, great read...and totally on point.

I think the namechange was also very groundbreaking. No artist had ever done anything similar before. Carlos Santa once used to be Devadip and Cat Stevens became Yusuf Islam but Prince did things his own way. Takes a lot self confidence and courage to do what he did over such a long timespan, I think that was one of the weirdest and boldest moves in showbiz ever.
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Reply #42 posted 09/20/06 2:59pm

NDRU

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His last major innovation was changing his name
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Reply #43 posted 09/20/06 3:13pm

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NDRU said:

His last major innovation was changing his name

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Reply #44 posted 09/20/06 3:19pm

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dammme said:

NDRU said:

His last major innovation was changing his name

omfg


No? I like his music since then, but that seems like the last thing he did that really blew people's minds.
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Reply #45 posted 09/20/06 3:48pm

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It was Sign o the Times because up to and including that one, each album added to the last as follows.
For You - Introduced a raw new talent to the world, ground breaking the fact it was a one man job and displayed musical competency.
Prince- Groundbreaking as it gave him first big hit, and more solid songwriting.
DM -Bought the element of shock as well as musical versatility, also proved his live reputation.
Controversy - A culmination of his talents thus far, Prince had it all here, rock (Controversy) Sex, Do Me Baby, Manifesto Sexuality, and Funk like Lets Work
1999- Groundbreaking as it was his first epic album and by now could write uber catchy pop songs along with seamless rock, funk and lascivious ballads.
Purple Rain, Groundbreaking as it was a movie ,album and killer singles and it catapulted him to mega stardom
ATWIAD, only because hee was exploring more external influences, notably white pop and psychedelia, also began to showcase his tendency to wibble.
Parade, Just supreme pop songs that value love above sex (rare for Prince) the role other band members contributed to it and the best marriage of black and white music on one disc. Perfection.
S.O.T. A sum talent of all his albums thus, a masterpiece with Prince as the alchemist of styles.

But the black album onwards theres nothing groundbreaking about his music, I mean lovesexy was neo spiritual fluff compared to the tight excellence of his earlier records. And good albums like symbol, come, TGE and 3121 don't add anything new, they just like pleasant sounding with catchy songs and a lot of them have more filler than killer.
So I say Sign o the times, because it was the last album, that had Prince strides ahead of the others.
Just like Bowies last groundbreaker was scary monsters and supercreeps, Lets dance onwards was just him keeping up with trends rather than being Ziggy Stardust or the Thin white Duke.
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Reply #46 posted 09/20/06 6:19pm

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tane1976 said:

It was Sign o the Times because up to and including that one, each album added to the last as follows.
For You - Introduced a raw new talent to the world, ground breaking the fact it was a one man job and displayed musical competency.
Prince- Groundbreaking as it gave him first big hit, and more solid songwriting.
DM -Bought the element of shock as well as musical versatility, also proved his live reputation.
Controversy - A culmination of his talents thus far, Prince had it all here, rock (Controversy) Sex, Do Me Baby, Manifesto Sexuality, and Funk like Lets Work
1999- Groundbreaking as it was his first epic album and by now could write uber catchy pop songs along with seamless rock, funk and lascivious ballads.
Purple Rain, Groundbreaking as it was a movie ,album and killer singles and it catapulted him to mega stardom
ATWIAD, only because hee was exploring more external influences, notably white pop and psychedelia, also began to showcase his tendency to wibble.
Parade, Just supreme pop songs that value love above sex (rare for Prince) the role other band members contributed to it and the best marriage of black and white music on one disc. Perfection.
S.O.T. A sum talent of all his albums thus, a masterpiece with Prince as the alchemist of styles.

But the black album onwards theres nothing groundbreaking about his music, I mean lovesexy was neo spiritual fluff compared to the tight excellence of his earlier records. And good albums like symbol, come, TGE and 3121 don't add anything new, they just like pleasant sounding with catchy songs and a lot of them have more filler than killer.
So I say Sign o the times, because it was the last album, that had Prince strides ahead of the others.
Just like Bowies last groundbreaker was scary monsters and supercreeps, Lets dance onwards was just him keeping up with trends rather than being Ziggy Stardust or the Thin white Duke.



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Reply #47 posted 09/21/06 2:20am

BoySimon

In fact, if it wasn't for Wendy and Lisa and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, Eric Leeds, none of the work after 1999 would have been groundbreaking.
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Reply #48 posted 09/21/06 3:56am

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Lovesexy.
Loved his hair,his clothes,Lovesexy tour,everything about this era. biggrin
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Reply #49 posted 09/21/06 5:25am

Graycap23

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In fact, if it wasn't for Wendy and Lisa and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, Eric Leeds, none of the work after 1999 would have been groundbreaking.


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Reply #50 posted 09/21/06 5:54am

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Prance is so ground breaking my water just broke.
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Reply #51 posted 09/21/06 6:11am

whoknows

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His last major innovation was changing his name

I think he's been innovative on the business side of things since then, but artistically he hasn't really had anything new to offer for a while, but I think it's unrealistic to expect that anyway. I just take the odd great TV appearance and leave it at that.
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Reply #52 posted 09/21/06 6:14am

Graycap23

Prince has DONE damn near EVERYTHING there is 2 do in music. If he could manage 2 break new ground AGAIN that would be a FEAT. The man has reached the very TOP of the game. There is no place 2 go.....but closer 2 Earth.
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Reply #53 posted 09/21/06 6:17am

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Reply #54 posted 09/21/06 8:26am

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NDRU said:

bublebath said:

by Prince?

hmmm


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Reply #55 posted 09/21/06 10:55pm

BoySimon

Graycap23, nice sarcasm, well done.

Name me a groundbreaking album after 1999?

PR used funk, ballads and rock... hmm, think they've been done before...

ATWIAD ditto

Parade ditto, plus some lounge-jazz... no, someone else had thought of that.

Just because it was all done supremely well does not make it groundbreaking.
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Reply #56 posted 09/21/06 10:56pm

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BoySimon said:

Graycap23, nice sarcasm, well done.

Name me a groundbreaking album after 1999?

PR used funk, ballads and rock... hmm, think they've been done before...

ATWIAD ditto

Parade ditto, plus some lounge-jazz... no, someone else had thought of that.

Just because it was all done supremely well does not make it groundbreaking.


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Reply #57 posted 09/22/06 4:28am

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Latest Ground breaking Album for me, must be N.E.W.S. Still 1 of my favorite albums when I wanna LISSEN to real music. He does things on this album, that almost puts him in the progressive music category, but still he keeps his sound, and creates sound landscapes who brings you "out there" biggrin

And remember, its recorded live in studio, so its impressive and ground breaking in my mind.

TRC is great, but have elements from Love sexy, and other old albums. Thoug its a masterpiece, its not groundbreaking, exept for perhaps the lyrics. Not many superstarts convert into a religion, sings about it, and gets away with it.
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Reply #58 posted 09/22/06 3:08pm

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Name me a groundbreaking album after 1999?

PR used funk, ballads and rock... hmm, think they've been done before...

ATWIAD ditto

Parade ditto, plus some lounge-jazz... no, someone else had thought of that.

Just because it was all done supremely well does not make it groundbreaking.


Seriously? If you have to ask what Prince albums after 1999 are groundbreaking, then you haven't been paying attention.
Purple Rain lit the whole fucking world on fire. People hadn't seen or heard anything like that before. It was familiar, yet something new and unique. Sure, the albums after it had elements that had been done before, but not the way Prince was doing it.

Dig this, Prince took/takes shit that had been done before and branded in his own way. He took the history what had come before in pop music and turned it into his own, purple, unique thing. Groundbreaking. He was then and is now. Enough said.



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Reply #59 posted 09/22/06 3:18pm

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