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Reply #30 posted 08/14/02 8:34pm

VINCENT

ben said:

That thread was less than THREE hours old before it got commented on and locked. What the fuck, do you really think I sit here all day and look at all the posts people put up and edit every single one? No, I work for a living. I provide prince.org as a FREE service. I moderate it as time allows, and as I see fit. 3 hours is NO time for it to be moderated away.

Yes, those comments etc. are lame, bullshit, etc., and the author of that message was warned. I don't condone nor allow it. But until you run a fully-moderated, better site, don't fucking complain that it took 3 HOURS for something offensive to be censored.


Sorry Ben, I admire your work but as a web developer I have set up quite a few forums that are moderated automatically. It's actually quite efficient and avoid the use of expressions like "black monkeys" for instance! Peace smile
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Reply #31 posted 08/14/02 8:40pm

VINCENT

Who said:

we all want free speech until somebody says something WE don't like... so what's the solution 2 their ignorance? do we cut them off... let them die that way? r we not all brothers... or sisters? u have 2 get back 2 go 4ward... go back... take a look if u must... Learn.


Freedom of speech?! yes of course but you know that there are things that are simply illegal. Why not starting a thread about how good it is to sodomize 5 years old girl or how delicious was the meat of this 4 years old black monkey who rests in my fridge! C'mon let's be sick. I love the speech of freedom.

No I'm sorry. There are things that you simply don't have the right to say. The guys who is responsible for this racist post should be kicked out the org purely and simply. Not just a simple warning like Ben said it's simply ridiculous.
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Reply #32 posted 08/14/02 9:24pm

xitlai

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When it comes to dealing with racism, we should follow the example of one particular community who chose to silently stand with their backs toward a parade of marching, rowdy KKK members. The community showed great respect for themselves, justice, the First Amendment, and best of all -- they didn't give those ignorant Mother Fuckers in bed sheets the satisfaction of knowing they'd invalidated and angered a community. Take a lesson people. As for Ben/the PowersThatBe at the org...this is a free web site. It is a free country. That's the price we pay. Xitlai has spoken.
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Reply #33 posted 08/14/02 9:30pm

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xitlai said:

When it comes to dealing with racism, we should follow the example of one particular community who chose to silently stand with their backs toward a parade of marching, rowdy KKK members. The community showed great respect for themselves, justice, the First Amendment, and best of all -- they didn't give those ignorant Mother Fuckers in bed sheets the satisfaction of knowing they'd invalidated and angered a community. Take a lesson people. As for Ben/the PowersThatBe at the org...this is a free web site. It is a free country. That's the price we pay. Xitlai has spoken.


Yeah the people who posted the "black people are ruining the Org." crap are utter morons who don't deserve to call themselves human. It sucks. But censorship sucks even more. Unless Ben and the PowersThatBe want to start charging us some $$$ ...oh well.
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Reply #34 posted 08/14/02 9:44pm

lovebird

Oh, please people, let's be nice to one another
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Reply #35 posted 08/14/02 9:52pm

theC

You know it comes down to WHAT YOU allow to enter your mind.These really mean spirited posts i usually skip over.If i feel the people are really trying to be constructive i put in my two cents.There were alot of negative racist posts in here today(nothing i haven't heard before).I glanced at them and moved on(didn't report it to the moderator because i couldn't handle it).I felt a little sad for the people who let it upset them.IN THE END NO ONE HAS THE POWER TO BRING YOU DOWN,BUT YOU CAN GIVE THEM THE POWER TO BRING YOU DOWN OR LIFT YOU UP.
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Reply #36 posted 08/15/02 12:16am

littleredcrvt

I totally agree, I mean this is a Prince site, can't you guys just lay off bashing people??? Some of the comments in here are so freaking rude! I mean do you really have to be so negative? I'm suprised some of these people in here are Prince fans by some of the things they say! I'm not gonna name anyone cuz I don't like being rude, but it is about time most of you grow the hell up!
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Reply #37 posted 08/15/02 12:29am

Essence

VINCENT said:

Who said:

we all want free speech until somebody says something WE don't like... so what's the solution 2 their ignorance? do we cut them off... let them die that way? r we not all brothers... or sisters? u have 2 get back 2 go 4ward... go back... take a look if u must... Learn.


Freedom of speech?! yes of course but you know that there are things that are simply illegal. Why not starting a thread about how good it is to sodomize 5 years old girl or how delicious was the meat of this 4 years old black monkey who rests in my fridge! C'mon let's be sick. I love the speech of freedom.

No I'm sorry. There are things that you simply don't have the right to say. The guys who is responsible for this racist post should be kicked out the org purely and simply. Not just a simple warning like Ben said it's simply ridiculous.


That's what I'm saying though, if your blatantly offensive it should be the one strike and your out not some punk ass little warning.
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Reply #38 posted 08/15/02 4:08am

Finess

imho theres a difference between freedom of speech and verbal abuse and abusing civil rights issues...keep your racist ignorant thoughts in your own ignorant mind..and try not 2 spew them forth.i hope that the when the time comes that we all get judged... the racists see the creator as the color or race that they dislike. but until that day comes? please do the best u can to try not to spew ignorant racist comments.
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Reply #39 posted 08/15/02 6:43am

Handclapsfinga
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Finess said:

imho theres a difference between freedom of speech and verbal abuse and abusing civil rights issues...keep your racist ignorant thoughts in your own ignorant mind..and try not 2 spew them forth.i hope that the when the time comes that we all get judged... the racists see the creator as the color or race that they dislike. but until that day comes? please do the best u can to try not to spew ignorant racist comments.

right on!!! woot!

as 4 all the bad comments, racist and otherwise: ignore all that b.s. if u don't, all that's gonna do is just feed the fire. nobody here needs a migraine from crap someone posted here on the .org. that ain't why this site's here. neutral
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Reply #40 posted 08/15/02 7:16am

fairlite

Essence said:[quote]

VINCENT said:

Who said:

we all want free speech until somebody says something WE don't like... so what's the solution 2 their ignorance? do we cut them off... let them die that way? r we not all brothers... or sisters? u have 2 get back 2 go 4ward... go back... take a look if u must... Learn.


Freedom of speech?! yes of course but you know that there are things that are simply illegal. Why not starting a thread about how good it is to sodomize 5 years old girl or how delicious was the meat of this 4 years old black monkey who rests in my fridge! C'mon let's be sick. I love the speech of freedom.

No I'm sorry. There are things that you simply don't have the right to say. The guys who is responsible for this racist post should be kicked out the org purely and simply. Not just a simple warning like Ben said it's simply ridiculous.


Hey if you don't like it then don't come here. Ben is the boss and he does what he feels is right. I don't agree with any of the trash talk or that post. But I feel Ben has a right to deal with people as he see fit.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 15 7:17:38 PDT 2002 by fairlite]
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Reply #41 posted 08/15/02 8:54am

joelmarable

generations will rise and fall and men will contiue 2 worship the God of racisim and hate and bow before the altar of retaliation; but ever and again this noble lesson of hate will be a nagging reminder that only goodness can drive out evil and only love can conquer hate. who side are u on. the middle east difficulties wont b settled until one or both sides make friend of the enemy.how can an enemy hate u if u befriend and love him.
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Reply #42 posted 08/15/02 9:15am

CherryMoon

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The opposite of Love is indifference, not hate. I once heard a wise man say that and it stuck.

IGNORE!!! Don't post. Don't curse. IGNORE!!! and move on.

No one man/woman/etc is worth that much of my time or yours.


We are all human. Let's act the part.


Peace. PLEASE!!!
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If the wind blew every petal from your precious red rose wilted
Would U be afraid of what U'd find inside? rose

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Reply #43 posted 08/15/02 9:19am

CherryMoon

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AND . . .

Why are you guys hating on Ben. Do you know how long he's been doing this for FREE!!!

Hammer's, and so many others are gone now. You know how you freak out when the site's down?

Think if it weren't there at all.


Ben, you keep on keepin' on. You do a wonderful job and I sincerly thank you and all the others for your efforts on OUR behalf.

CherryMoon
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If the wind blew every petal from your precious red rose wilted
Would U be afraid of what U'd find inside? rose

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Reply #44 posted 08/15/02 9:51am

VINCENT

fairlite said:[quote]

Essence said:

VINCENT said:

Who said:

we all want free speech until somebody says something WE don't like... so what's the solution 2 their ignorance? do we cut them off... let them die that way? r we not all brothers... or sisters? u have 2 get back 2 go 4ward... go back... take a look if u must... Learn.


Freedom of speech?! yes of course but you know that there are things that are simply illegal. Why not starting a thread about how good it is to sodomize 5 years old girl or how delicious was the meat of this 4 years old black monkey who rests in my fridge! C'mon let's be sick. I love the speech of freedom.

No I'm sorry. There are things that you simply don't have the right to say. The guys who is responsible for this racist post should be kicked out the org purely and simply. Not just a simple warning like Ben said it's simply ridiculous.


Hey if you don't like it then don't come here. Ben is the boss and he does what he feels is right. I don't agree with any of the trash talk or that post. But I feel Ben has a right to deal with people as he see fit.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 15 7:17:38 PDT 2002 by fairlite]


No no and no. As a webmaster you are responsible for the content of your website. If someone starts posting pedophile comments for instance you are responsible for removing those comments right away. The guy who posted comments about black people i just warned!!! I can't believe it?!

I've read a few months ago outrageous comments about the jews on prince.org. Some fucked revisionist at that time was explaining that concentration camps had never existed. Enough is enough.
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Reply #45 posted 08/15/02 2:34pm

waterhead

NPD313, your a real dumb guy, right? You just reprinted the post you are supposedly upset about, so your just as bad as the person that posted it the first time.
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Reply #46 posted 08/15/02 2:36pm

Aaron

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VINCENT said:

Who said:

we all want free speech until somebody says something WE don't like... so what's the solution 2 their ignorance? do we cut them off... let them die that way? r we not all brothers... or sisters? u have 2 get back 2 go 4ward... go back... take a look if u must... Learn.


Freedom of speech?! yes of course but you know that there are things that are simply illegal. Why not starting a thread about how good it is to sodomize 5 years old girl or how delicious was the meat of this 4 years old black monkey who rests in my fridge! C'mon let's be sick. I love the speech of freedom.

No I'm sorry. There are things that you simply don't have the right to say. The guys who is responsible for this racist post should be kicked out the org purely and simply. Not just a simple warning like Ben said it's simply ridiculous.



Uh, the flaw in your leap of logic here is that the guy that posted the racist comment did not make any illegal call to action of violence against that group or an individual. He simply stated his opinion. And under the notion of freedom of speech (regardless of whether or not it exists on the Org) that is fully supported. No one was calling for us to beat up or kill the black posters.
[This message was edited Thu Aug 15 14:41:50 PDT 2002 by Aaron]
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Reply #47 posted 08/15/02 3:28pm

Maradona

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CAN I SAY SOMETHIN?

RACISM MOST OF THE RACISM IS JEALOSY FIED MAN

I`M WHITE I`M PINK I`M BLUE FCKIT MAN WHO CARES BUT KEEP THE IRISH OUT OF ENGLAND
EVEN IN THE SUMMER TIME
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