wonder505 said: Riverpoet31 said: I believe Sinead.
Prince is a twisted person, he can be very nice, but a big asshole also. Alltough i love his music, his lyrics and attitude show he is a twisted person, dealing with 'issues' and reluctant to solve them. Thats why women leave him, because of his stubborness to get at ease with himselve, i see a guy who really needs psychotherapy for a long time, but unfortunately he loses himselve in the Jehovah Witness movement, It might sound hard, but i wouldnt look up when the news report are going around that Prince has comitted suicide, that lonely and twisted he really is. I hope he does something about it and finds himselve. This has got to be the worst post I've read. Appalling... Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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meow85 said: Riverpoet31 said: I believe Sinead.
Prince is a twisted person, he can be very nice, but a big asshole also. Alltough i love his music, his lyrics and attitude show he is a twisted person, dealing with 'issues' and reluctant to solve them. Thats why women leave him, because of his stubborness to get at ease with himselve, i see a guy who really needs psychotherapy for a long time, but unfortunately he loses himselve in the Jehovah Witness movement, It might sound hard, but i wouldnt look up when the news report are going around that Prince has comitted suicide, that lonely and twisted he really is. I hope he does something about it and finds himselve. Christ Almighty. The cheese fell off P's cracker a while ago, that is true. But you're speculating way too hard to be healthy. I suggest you call up that therapist you recommended for the Lil Guy. [Edited 9/17/06 0:17am] ----- co-sign I think most fans realize that P has issues but the concern on this topic is out of control. I can't understand why Riverpoet even comes to this board. [Edited 9/17/06 12:05pm] | |
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mikek1 said: adorable2 said: ok mikek1 This is just an observation. I've read a good deal of ur posts as they pertain to Prince and u seem to be fascinated with how he treats women. You are constantly asking if its true he beats women. U asked Robin, MichaelB and now I am reading this thread. Now if ur a man that finds woman beating repulsive I am totally with you, but what makes you think P is abusive other than rumors? U seemed hell bent on uncovering P as a womanbeater and I just want to know what u are basing this on. The 'rumours' COME FROM PEOPLE ON THIS SITE' who have told me! I only wanted to know if any of you guys knew the truth; that's all. I'm not hellbent on anything infact i wanted someone to post evidence to the contrary becuase i hope Prince would never do that. I'm on the internet alot at the moment becuase i'm currently immobile; so i've been reading bios/autobiographies of my fav artist(downloaded or through amazon). I've read some truly shocking things about people like, hendrix, lennon, r.kelly, miles davis, john bonham and even Prince; it's sad to know. If i was totally mobile i wouldn't even be on the net at all. I just thought this particular accusation was true and hoped it wasn't. Someone has said sinead later said it didn't happen that way but i think they're lying; i hope not though ----- evidence to the contrary becuase i hope Prince would never do that. P has not been arrested or accused of beating any woman. None that he has been involved with except Sinead have ever said anything about this to the public. That is the evidence so far. | |
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laurarichardson said: mikek1 said: The 'rumours' COME FROM PEOPLE ON THIS SITE' who have told me! I only wanted to know if any of you guys knew the truth; that's all. I'm not hellbent on anything infact i wanted someone to post evidence to the contrary becuase i hope Prince would never do that. I'm on the internet alot at the moment becuase i'm currently immobile; so i've been reading bios/autobiographies of my fav artist(downloaded or through amazon). I've read some truly shocking things about people like, hendrix, lennon, r.kelly, miles davis, john bonham and even Prince; it's sad to know. If i was totally mobile i wouldn't even be on the net at all. I just thought this particular accusation was true and hoped it wasn't. Someone has said sinead later said it didn't happen that way but i think they're lying; i hope not though ----- evidence to the contrary becuase i hope Prince would never do that. P has not been arrested or accused of beating any woman. None that he has been involved with except Sinead have ever said anything about this to the public. That is the evidence so far. exactly that's why i asked the question. why did blackguitarist say he hit jill jones then? | |
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mikek1 said: laurarichardson said: ----- evidence to the contrary becuase i hope Prince would never do that. P has not been arrested or accused of beating any woman. None that he has been involved with except Sinead have ever said anything about this to the public. That is the evidence so far. exactly that's why i asked the question. why did blackguitarist say he hit jill jones then? ----- Did blackguitarist tell you who said it? Was it any of the numerous former employees that P has beefed with in the past? At the end of the day Jill should have reported any hitting to the police and not disgruntled ex-employees. I would hope that if P has been beating the crap out of woman over the last 25 years someone would go to the police. | |
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I would hope that if P has been beating the crap out of woman over the last 25 years someone would go to the police. [/quote]
Or settle it hoodstyle. Call some brothers and uncles and cousins. P can be hemmed up just like anybody else. [Edited 9/17/06 12:19pm] "The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page | |
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I just reread my post on this thread, and i must admit i was being a bit to harsh in it (partially because of a bit too many beers), i apologise for that.
By the way, i am not 'wishing' or 'hoping' in any way that Prince should commit suicide, i think some of you have misinterpreted that part. What i was trying to say that i sometimes have the idea (judging on his lyrics, and certain stories that 'leak' out, of course they are not checkable, but at least they can hint at something) that Prince is indeed a person with temper problems, a lonely person, that takes some weird steps in his musicall life, and personal life, even for the 'big, eccentric superstar type'. I sometimes have the 'feeling' that something bad will happen with him because of who he seems to be to me, and yes, that can also mean suicide or an overdose. Again, i was trying to express that feelings, but it did come out way to hard and direct, excuse me for that. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Prince is indeed a person with temper problems,
u think he still has a temper problem? " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: I just reread my post on this thread, and i must admit i was being a bit to harsh in it (partially because of a bit too many beers), i apologise for that.
By the way, i am not 'wishing' or 'hoping' in any way that Prince should commit suicide, i think some of you have misinterpreted that part. What i was trying to say that i sometimes have the idea (judging on his lyrics, and certain stories that 'leak' out, of course they are not checkable, but at least they can hint at something) that Prince is indeed a person with temper problems, a lonely person, that takes some weird steps in his musicall life, and personal life, even for the 'big, eccentric superstar type'. I sometimes have the 'feeling' that something bad will happen with him because of who he seems to be to me, and yes, that can also mean suicide or an overdose. Again, i was trying to express that feelings, but it did come out way to hard and direct, excuse me for that. youve got tremendous insight into somebody you dont know. ... [Edited 9/17/06 17:11pm] | |
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LleeLlee said: Riverpoet31 said: I just reread my post on this thread, and i must admit i was being a bit to harsh in it (partially because of a bit too many beers), i apologise for that.
By the way, i am not 'wishing' or 'hoping' in any way that Prince should commit suicide, i think some of you have misinterpreted that part. What i was trying to say that i sometimes have the idea (judging on his lyrics, and certain stories that 'leak' out, of course they are not checkable, but at least they can hint at something) that Prince is indeed a person with temper problems, a lonely person, that takes some weird steps in his musicall life, and personal life, even for the 'big, eccentric superstar type'. I sometimes have the 'feeling' that something bad will happen with him because of who he seems to be to me, and yes, that can also mean suicide or an overdose. Again, i was trying to express that feelings, but it did come out way to hard and direct, excuse me for that. youve got tremendous insight into somebody you dont know. ... anyone who has listened to all his music knows him, unless they werent paying attention. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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LleeLlee said: Riverpoet31 said: I just reread my post on this thread, and i must admit i was being a bit to harsh in it (partially because of a bit too many beers), i apologise for that.
By the way, i am not 'wishing' or 'hoping' in any way that Prince should commit suicide, i think some of you have misinterpreted that part. What i was trying to say that i sometimes have the idea (judging on his lyrics, and certain stories that 'leak' out, of course they are not checkable, but at least they can hint at something) that Prince is indeed a person with temper problems, a lonely person, that takes some weird steps in his musicall life, and personal life, even for the 'big, eccentric superstar type'. I sometimes have the 'feeling' that something bad will happen with him because of who he seems to be to me, and yes, that can also mean suicide or an overdose. Again, i was trying to express that feelings, but it did come out way to hard and direct, excuse me for that. youve got tremendous insight into somebody you dont know. .. [Edited 9/17/06 17:11pm] i know, what an appalling and dire outlook on somebody from so-called "leaked" not verifiable information and song lyrics which can be interpreted any way. [Edited 9/17/06 17:15pm] | |
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sacredwarrior said: LleeLlee said: youve got tremendous insight into somebody you dont know. ... anyone who has listened to all his music knows him, unless they werent paying attention. in your own mind. unless you know him PERSONALLY you dont know him. | |
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sacredwarrior said: LleeLlee said: youve got tremendous insight into somebody you dont know. ... anyone who has listened to all his music knows him, unless they werent paying attention. Ive listened to his music and have been a fan for years, grew up listening to it in fact and I payed attention. Fans like to think they know somebody but they dont, he has a personal life that you and I are not privy too. Unless youve met him, hung out with him or married him, you dont know him. | |
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wonder505 said: LleeLlee said: youve got tremendous insight into somebody you dont know. .. [Edited 9/17/06 17:11pm] i know, what an appalling and dire outlook on somebody from so-called "leaked" not verifiable information and song lyrics which can be interpreted any way. [Edited 9/17/06 17:15pm] agreed. | |
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LleeLlee said: sacredwarrior said: anyone who has listened to all his music knows him, unless they werent paying attention. Ive listened to his music and have been a fan for years, grew up listening to it in fact and I payed attention. Fans like to think they know somebody but they dont, he has a personal life that you and I are not privy too. Unless youve met him, hung out with him or married him, you dont know him. lets roll with ur argument then. if you dont know him, then what makes u think riverpoets insight is appalling? i mean if u dont know Prince, then u really cant say either way right? " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: LleeLlee said: Ive listened to his music and have been a fan for years, grew up listening to it in fact and I payed attention. Fans like to think they know somebody but they dont, he has a personal life that you and I are not privy too. Unless youve met him, hung out with him or married him, you dont know him. lets roll with ur argument then. if you dont know him, then what makes u think riverpoets insight is appalling? i mean if u dont know Prince, then u really cant say either way right? riverpoets post is pure conjecture, based on heresay and rumour. I could post anything about prince in this fashion and claim its a fact when it isnt. IT could be true, using your logic anything could be true just because we cant verify it. He says himself that he bases his opinions on some of his lyrics. He hasnt backed up anything he says with facts or evidence. | |
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'strue..yes it's true... | |
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Don't believe a word....she's had unfortunate periods of instability. Loses credibility in my book. Pretty much needed a 3rd objective witness to it all. | |
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I don't believe this story . | |
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laurarichardson said: meow85 said: Christ Almighty. The cheese fell off P's cracker a while ago, that is true. But you're speculating way too hard to be healthy. I suggest you call up that therapist you recommended for the Lil Guy. [Edited 9/17/06 0:17am] ----- co-sign I think most fans realize that P has issues but the concern on this topic is out of control. I can't understand why Riverpoet even comes to this board. [Edited 9/17/06 12:05pm] It's clear as anything that Prince is not altogether normal, and who knows, maybe he would benefit from therapy or something. But who's to say? It amazes me how far people will reach to have some kind of personal connection or understanding with any celebrity. Most people wouldn't speculate this hard about people they actually know! "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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laurarichardson said: I am not saying P is not capable of violence. We all are capable. He just looks like he weights about 100 lbs. A good size woman could knock his block off.
that's what I'm saying | |
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K im not going to read 4 pages of this, but wasnt this story published in like the National Enquirer back in the day.
Cmon?!! The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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lazycrockett said: K im not going to read 4 pages of this, but wasnt this story published in like the National Enquirer back in the day.
Cmon?!! Actually,I read it in Rolling Stone A few years after this incident,Sinead made some more comments about it.She mentioned that she no longer performs "Nothing Compares 2 U" at her shows... I have to get to the point where I can separate the song from the writer,which I suppose I was always able to do before.But I'm just really pissed at him. | |
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SoulAlive said: lazycrockett said: K im not going to read 4 pages of this, but wasnt this story published in like the National Enquirer back in the day.
Cmon?!! Actually,I read it in Rolling Stone A few years after this incident,Sinead made some more comments about it.She mentioned that she no longer performs "Nothing Compares 2 U" at her shows... I have to get to the point where I can separate the song from the writer,which I suppose I was always able to do before.But I'm just really pissed at him. Obviously the incident happened; sinead is still hurt by it enough not to perform her biggest ever hit! | |
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LleeLlee said: sacredwarrior said: lets roll with ur argument then. if you dont know him, then what makes u think riverpoets insight is appalling? i mean if u dont know Prince, then u really cant say either way right? riverpoets post is pure conjecture, based on heresay and rumour. I could post anything about prince in this fashion and claim its a fact when it isnt. IT could be true, using your logic anything could be true just because we cant verify it. He says himself that he bases his opinions on some of his lyrics. He hasnt backed up anything he says with facts or evidence. wouldnt it be wonderful if no one presumed anything about anyone, without facts and evidence. i wonder if Prince has always gathered his facts and evidence, without allowing subjective interpretation to influence his opinions, views, beliefs, thoughts on other people. there's a little well know saying "what goes around comes around". i believe in it wholeheartedly, and have never experienced it to be untrue. there's a sweet balance lurking just underneath the surface, in all things.imo.x " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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christos7 said: 'strue..yes it's true... tell. me. all. about. it. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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xplnyrslf said: Don't believe a word....she's had unfortunate periods of instability. Loses credibility in my book. Pretty much needed a 3rd objective witness to it all.
I would have killed to have been a fly on the wall when this incident supposedly happened | |
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xplnyrslf said: Don't believe a word....she's had unfortunate periods of instability. Loses credibility in my book. Pretty much needed a 3rd objective witness to it all.
unstable women r hit by stable men? dont nuna y'all get me goin. i've taken a broom-handle in the face, among other things i'd rather forget. if anyone here doesnt like the idea of Prince possibly being violent toward women in his past, or even mentally violent in the present, then might i suggest you should neither like the idea of any woman ever being the victim of such pathetic behaviour, no matter how 'unstable' she is. to question a woman's story simply because she might be unstable, is merely another form of assault, if what she says is true. if only you all could read the internet the way it is intended to be read, IN THE PRESENT, you would see some Truths being presented. Violence against Women, be it physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, is fucked.up. Ther is NO excuse for it, no matter what a woman may have done to 'provoke' it. It is the utmost pathetic response a man can give, and merely shows his incipid insecurity, inner self-hatred and inadequacy in being a real man. ANY so-called 'man' that comes near me, either physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, with VIOLENCE, will b taking his last breath, if he doesnt know when to stop. No compassion, no Mercy, for men like that. x " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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dustysgirl said: why would he be mad at her to begin with? Wouldn't she have had to get permission to record his song?
According to her,he was "jealous" because her version of the song became a big hit without him being involved.But it's hard to imagine Prince being pissed at all the songwriter royalties he was receiving,especially for an obscure song that had been all but forgotten. Hasn't Prince said that he has different personalities? Perhaps it was really "Camille" who went off on Sinead? | |
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sacredwarrior said: xplnyrslf said: Don't believe a word....she's had unfortunate periods of instability. Loses credibility in my book. Pretty much needed a 3rd objective witness to it all.
unstable women r hit by stable men? dont nuna y'all get me goin. i've taken a broom-handle in the face, among other things i'd rather forget. if anyone here doesnt like the idea of Prince possibly being violent toward women in his past, or even mentally violent in the present, then might i suggest you should neither like the idea of any woman ever being the victim of such pathetic behaviour, no matter how 'unstable' she is. to question a woman's story simply because she might be unstable, is merely another form of assault, if what she says is true. if only you all could read the internet the way it is intended to be read, IN THE PRESENT, you would see some Truths being presented. Violence against Women, be it physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, is fucked.up. Ther is NO excuse for it, no matter what a woman may have done to 'provoke' it. It is the utmost pathetic response a man can give, and merely shows his incipid insecurity, inner self-hatred and inadequacy in being a real man. ANY so-called 'man' that comes near me, either physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually, with VIOLENCE, will b taking his last breath, if he doesnt know when to stop. No compassion, no Mercy, for men like that. x I agree with you! Unfortunately most of the graetest artist and biggest stars ever have been horrificly violent to women; hendrix, mingus, sly stone, james, brown, axl rose, john bonham, biggie, jay z, john lennon, miles davis, elvis presley, ozzy osborne, r.kelly, e.t.c, e.tc I wish i never found this shit out becuase it taints my listening experience! | |
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