i always wondered what in the hell he sampled from that track!? what part of 7 is from 'tramp'?

sitruk7 said:

I was dissapointed by "Gett Off".

mikek1 said:

I doubt it. That beat is very basic. And the music is totally different.

"The Vault" is full of bullshit. There is no En Vogue sample in "Gett Off". Open your ears, motherfuckers.

piepie1976 said:

The bass line.

God, I love Get Off.

:swoon:

Prince never disappoints me!

Damn people shol be listening for discrepanccies in Prince's music...Why not just enjoy the music?!

2the9s said:

*you*? in the prince: music more forun?

metalorange said:

Didn't Prince use GOd Made me Funky in Sacrifice of Victor. Just saying because I thought the sample was well hidden.

sitruk7 said:

no! It's the drums; prince created a drum loop from that trammp track!

My name is also had samples!

mikek1 said:

The Vault says: The Symbol album was the first album to explicitly credit samples from other artists' music. 'Arrogance' incorporated samples from three songs: 'I Know You Got Soul' by Eric B. And Rakim (from their debut 'Paid In Full, 1987') 'Jazz It Up (Jazz Mix)' which is an acid-jazz track by CFM Band (Prince sampled a remix of the song, which surfaced on CFM Band, 1993) and 'Niggaz4Life' by NWA (from Niggaz4Life, 1991). The drum track of '7' is a loop based on a sample from 'Tramp' a 1967 hit for bluesman Lowell Fulson.

It doesn't mention My Name Is Prince as having samples.
[Edited 9/16/06 12:02pm]

metalorange said:

mikek1 said:

A correct. Funky reguardless.

I do believe P sampled the bassline from "Tramp" for "7". It's the same one used for Cypress Hill's "How I Could Just Kill A Man". Those drums were programmed. Shit, I think I smell a new signature.
[Edited 9/16/06 13:54pm]

metalorange said:

mikek1 said:

I've read the whole review of the album in The Vault but can't find any reference to sampling in My Name Is Prince; if you are aware of any relevant bit I've missed, please feel free to post it.

AvramsDad said:

Not that I'm saying you're wrong, but I'd just like to point out there is a difference between sampling someone's music and reproducing the same part from fresh. Prince is entirely capable of copying a bassline but generating the music himself; whereas sampling is when some part of someone else's music is directly lifted off a recording and inserted directly into the new music.

Time and again I hear people saying some part of a Prince song sounds similar to somebody else's record and figuring it must have been 'sampled'. Most times it's a likely a coincidence, Prince has done so many tracks it's inevitable parts of them sound similar to some other track out there, there's only so many basslines and drum patterns; other times perhaps Prince has been influenced but still created the bassline or whatever from scratch.
[Edited 9/16/06 15:20pm]

metalorange said:[quote]

AvramsDad said:

your right...in court this is called the vanilla ice defense...

Does that bitch really claim the bassline to be his own?

sosgemini said:[quote]

metalorange said:

"There's goes 'ding ding ding dig-a-ding ding [pause] ding ding ding dig-a-ding ding,'
but mine goes 'ding ding ding dig-a-ding ding DING ding ding ding dig-a-ding ding.' See? Different!"

PurpleCharm said:

"That ain't right!"

No.

I think it all depends on what is meant by "sample". You can sample a beat by taking the single shot sounds of someone elses beat (like the snare sound, the kickdrum sound etc etc), bring those sounds into your own drum machine and then program your own beats using those sounds. Although that can be called sampling, its not actually lifting someone elses music from their song. Also called sampling is lifting parts from songs and mixing them into your own song (like a looped beat or bassline or vocal), perhaps its looped over and over or triggered at certain points in the song. Watch Prince's drummers when he plays live, they will often have drum pads that when hit trigger off a sample.

Anyway, I think the person Prince samples the most is himself. He must have built up a massive library of single shot samples that he has created over the years. Im sure he reuses them in different guises all the time. 3121 sounds like one big Prince sampled album. I could swear that the bassy sound in the song 3121 is the same as the one in Rebirth of the Flesh...

Rebeljuice said:

Well, of course at one point he was going to put out a 7 CD set of sampled sounds from his songs for musicians, but it came to nothing, so yes he must have a massive library. But as I keep saying, with as many songs as Prince has created people are always finding similarities between songs. The drum and bass for 3121 is supposed to have come from Prince jamming with Sonny T. and Michael B., so no Rebirth of the Flesh sample, just a similarity in style.

metalorange said:

yeah your right