beginning of fury lifted from something
gett off riff from a parliament track
housequake synths from sly stone track
u got the look from his sister
question of u from a 50's song

any info plz, thanyou kind sirs?

Ur not really talking 'whole song' theft R U?

no just parts of songs.

IT WAS PEOPLE ON THIS SITE THAT TOLD ME OF THESE; i don't know if they are true?

He stole the Purple Rain guitar intro from Wendy, who in turn stole it from BB King

Handel said:

Didn't she say she helped with the intro; what what bb song do you mean?

His sister lost the court battle over U Got the Look (I wouldn't want to take credit for that crappy song anyway).

The rest, depends on who you believe.

ElCapitan said:

what do you mean, who you believe? Either the parts are the same or they aren't; people with the originals will obviously know for sure!

mikek1 said:

People with the originals will know for sure that one song sounds like another song.

Which proves exactly what?

I know for sure that the RHCP "Dani California" sounds just like Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance". I have no idea whether or not they stole it though.


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mikek1 said:

The 'U Got The Look' issue was an allegation over use of lyrics which, as has been pointed out, was legally settled in favour of Prince.

Secondly, none of what you have described is 'song theft'.

All of the 'allegations' (other than'U Got The Look') that you refer to simply attribute part of a song to an earlier unidentified recording by another artist.

If you can provide the particular song, or part of the song, recorded by the other artist (not just "beginning of 'Fury' lifted from something!!!) that is the subject of the allegation, then we might have a fighting chance to understand the substance of the rumour and discuss it.

As it stands, these all come across as baseless rumours.

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Song theft is what rappers do.

There is nothing new under the sun, remember that!

ElCapitan said:

his own sister took him to court?? Jesus Christ.

why didnt he just give her some money or something instead of going thru a legal battle?

i dont know anything about this so pardon me if what i've said is dumb.

sacredwarrior said:

That's a good to keep people from suing you. "Here's some money for your baseless claim, I'm sure you won't try this again..."

ElCapitan said:

yeah even if she had a point, just give her the equivalent amount to the royalties she would have earned. aint like he's poor and cant afford it.

i dont understand why people prefer to go to court than find a way to settle out of it. mayb they did try, i dunno.

i tend to believe his sister the song went "what's cooking in your book" i BELIEVE that when prince heard it he liked it and changed it just enough to be legal.

also it is pretty well known he did steal: do me baby and party up

sacredwarrior said:

The large majority of civil suits do settle. Still, sometimes people want to see it through. Especially if they feel they've done nothing wrong.

SlamGlam said:

It's a well-known allegation that he stole those two songs. I'm curious other than countless interviews and books saying that it happened, has there ever been any kind of proof on that?


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On one level, musicians hear a lot of material and inspire each other, they don't work in a vacuum, it's natural that these influences occasionally manifest themselves in their work, either unconciously or deleberately. If it was an exact rip-off rather than an interpretation, then that could be a case for a lawsuit, but more often it merely sounds similar to something else. Lyrics are obviously far easier to prove whether they were stolen or not.

There seems to be some occasions when Prince has worked with musicians and writers and taken their work without providing the full credit. Sometimes I think that is more a case of Prince thinking any material recorded by band members he's paying in a studio he's paying for in a jam session is technically his by right. Whatever, it was upto those band members to fight their own case, in most cases it seem they'd rather just moan about it, probably because legally they haven't a leg to stand on. Prince is as much a businessman, and like all successful businessman I guess you do need a ruthless streak at times. Though I do think the times he has done wrong by fellow artists are relatively rare and shouldn't be over-emphasises or used to try and diminish the vast majority of original ideas he's come up with.

Finally, there are case when samples have been used without credit. Someone said on a post I read recently that it wasn't until '92 you had to declare any samples used, so that would explain any non-disclosed samples pre-that-date.

I had the same rumours circulating about me, when I released my songs "U Got The Book", "Sexy Em-F" and "Why U Wanna Beat Me So Bad".

These accusations stifled my creativity for a while, but I've been listening to the Beatles a bit and it has rekindled the flames. I'm currently working on some new songs, tentatively titled "The Long And Whining Road", "Let It Flee" and "Revelation #7".
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sacredwarrior said:

She claims that she wrote a song called "What's Cooking In This Book" and that she delivered it to Prince.When she heard his song "U Got The Look",she was surprised that it contained the lyric "Sho nuff do be cookin' in my book",a lyric that appears in her song.

SoulAlive said:

good grief @ both of them

whats cookin in the Book of Life i wonder ..

sacredwarrior said:

those are lousy lyrics,no matter who wrote them

SoulAlive said:

lets take both of em to court for SUCKING REALLY BADLY lol

ElCapitan said:

You got that right! His sister claims that she wrote a song called "What's Cooking In This Book" Prince took it and changed it to "U Got The Look" What a crock. I think the judge threw the case out.

ThePunisher said:

IIRC and i followed it closely when as it happened... she said he had seen the song and then did "U got..." a few days later. the judge pretty much said that even if he did see it and even if he did write his song after he saw it with it in mind and as a starting point the 2 songs were not close enough to be a violation. so IIRC it was a matter of how close were they and had little of anything to do with where Prince got the idea.

I do not think it was thrown out, i think prince won the case. Prince of course never showed up to the hearings.

Good musicians borrow, great musicians steal. J/K

Didn't Morris Day give Prince Party Up in exchange for him setting up The Time and Having Morris as the front man. I also think it might have just been the bassline or something.

SlamGlam said:

You rarely hear about someone winning a case like this. Unless it's a blatant rip-off like Ghostbusters. Anyone could tell that Ray Parker Jr. Stole the music from Huey Lewis and The News (I Want A New Drug). Other then that it's a waste of time.

Romeoblu said:

Just the drum groove; prince took that and made a song, arranged it and wrote the lyrics!

They might be, but I haven't heard anybody sueing him because of it.