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How do Lesbians feel about the song BAMBI ? if ur a lesbian or u've got friends who r, do u think Prince could convert you or your friends?
i understand the song may not be about that, but if it were, could he make u straight? " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: if ur a lesbian or u've got friends who r, do u think Prince could convert you or your friends?
i understand the song may not be about that, but if it were, could he make u straight? I'm not a Lesbian, but I play one on TV...er no. I remember showing the lyrics to a lesbian friend when I was in high school 20 years ago. She thought the lyrics were tedious. I agree with her, still. They reflect a common male misogyny and self absorbtion. The later T.C Ellis version trys to mask that misogyny in christian morality, but basically the song is disespectful to lesbians. You kind of get the idea that he wanted to write a racy song about the 'titilating' subject of lesbians and due to his lack of complex thinkig on the subject, "Bambi" is what he came up with. "Bambi, can't you understand? Bambi, it's better with a man?" Of course the semi-obvious subtext of this statement is that Prince himself knows how much better it is with a man via his own sexual experiences with men. His own heterosexism and discomfort with his own queer sexuality and transgressive gender performance leads him to project this false duel between hetero-normativity and gay sexuality onto Lesbians. | |
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JudasLChrist said: sacredwarrior said: if ur a lesbian or u've got friends who r, do u think Prince could convert you or your friends?
i understand the song may not be about that, but if it were, could he make u straight? I'm not a Lesbian, but I play one on TV...er no. I remember showing the lyrics to a lesbian friend when I was in high school 20 years ago. She thought the lyrics were tedious. I agree with her, still. They reflect a common male misogyny and self absorbtion. The later T.C Ellis version trys to mask that misogyny in christian morality, but basically the song is disespectful to lesbians. You kind of get the idea that he wanted to write a racy song about the 'titilating' subject of lesbians and due to his lack of complex thinkig on the subject, "Bambi" is what he came up with. "Bambi, can't you understand? Bambi, it's better with a man?" Of course the semi-obvious subtext of this statement is that Prince himself knows how much better it is with a man via his own sexual experiences with men. His own heterosexism and discomfort with his own queer sexuality and transgressive gender performance leads him to project this false duel between hetero-normativity and gay sexuality onto Lesbians. Wow, thanks for ur response. Cool. I posted this question cuz I received some spam mail today - sender: confide. subject: bambi. I'd never seen the lyrics before ( not a hard core fan - moderate ), and at first glance I thought he was just doing his usual 'im the best lover in the whole entire universe' routine, and pushed the envelope by saying it to a lesbian. Then I wondered about the spiritual side of it; I'm male and female in spirit, but I'm heterosexual. Anyway, it felt like he was trying to appeal to the 'girly girl' (in me) or the 'woman' or whatever, not to say Lesbians arent women or that they cant be girly girls lol.. so yeah, I didnt really know how to feel about it. When I read the lyrics, it feels like a woman speaking like a man. Wierd song. Thanks again for ur super cool response.  " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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Whats tedious is this calling Prince gay nonsense. As bold as he is, if he was gay, hed tell you. You wouldnt have to wonder or speculate. Stop projecting. Thats some tired, tedious shit. | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: Whats tedious is this calling Prince gay nonsense. As bold as he is, if he was gay, hed tell you. You wouldnt have to wonder or speculate. Stop projecting. Thats some tired, tedious shit.
r u talkin to me? cuz i've never thought he was gay. mayb he is but i dont see it. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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No, I'm not talking to you. | |
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Ok now I KNOW I've spent too long at the org. I remember a few years ago when someone posted this EXACT same topic.  | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: No, I'm not talking to you.
ok cool. but thanks for the opportunity to do that line from Taxi Driver. ehehe. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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Krystal666 said: Ok now I KNOW I've spent too long at the org. I remember a few years ago when someone posted this EXACT same topic.
i wasnt here then so i wanna do it again.  " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Krystal666 said: Ok now I KNOW I've spent too long at the org. I remember a few years ago when someone posted this EXACT same topic.
i wasnt here then so i wanna do it again. Ok I understand...I'm not knocking you for the topic I'm just marveling at how time flys. | |
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sacredwarrior said: JonnyApplesauce said: No, I'm not talking to you.
ok cool. but thanks for the opportunity to do that line from Taxi Driver. ehehe. Travis Bickle? Is that you? | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: sacredwarrior said: ok cool. but thanks for the opportunity to do that line from Taxi Driver. ehehe. Travis Bickle? Is that you? oh sweet Iris you should be at home with your parents " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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Krystal666 said: sacredwarrior said: i wasnt here then so i wanna do it again. Ok I understand...I'm not knocking you for the topic I'm just marveling at how time flys. come on. knock me for the topic. tell me i'm a closet lesbian with issues about my sexuality and i'm secretly trynna make Prince look impotent lol " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Krystal666 said: Ok I understand...I'm not knocking you for the topic I'm just marveling at how time flys. come on. knock me for the topic. tell me i'm a closet lesbian with issues about my sexuality and i'm secretly trynna make Prince look impotent lol Err...umm..sorry no I don't know you well enough to say anything like that. LOL! | |
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Krystal666 said: sacredwarrior said: come on. knock me for the topic. tell me i'm a closet lesbian with issues about my sexuality and i'm secretly trynna make Prince look impotent lol Err...umm..sorry no I don't know you well enough to say anything like that. LOL! hang on to your sanity while u can cuz i know plenty folks who would lol i never knew the lyrics to this song until today. they're bizarre. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Krystal666 said: Err...umm..sorry no I don't know you well enough to say anything like that. LOL! i never knew the lyrics to this song until today. they're bizarre. Oh you know it's just a man assuming he knows what is best for a woman. You know how alot of them are! | |
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Krystal666 said: sacredwarrior said: i never knew the lyrics to this song until today. they're bizarre. Oh you know it's just a man assuming he knows what is best for a woman. You know how alot of them are! what is he trynna do with this song? is he serious? there's been a couple of gay men i've met before, and i've thought wow damn shame, and far as i got in my head to try and convert them was thinking stuff like 'they wont know love til i've loved them' or ' i bet i could win u over with my heart' (disclaimer: im not saying anything about gay men here, just my personal experiences so dont nobody go all defensive on me)...but i never presumed to try to convince them that my vagina would be more attractive to them, or that they should try it cuz it looks different or that its the only thing that could give them real pleasure. has Prince always been like that? like, so desperate he even wants to make out to lesbians that his dick would give them more pleasure than another womans tongue or fingers or strap on or whatever?
im hetero so y'know, a penis suits me just fine, but lawd Prince wtf? lol the only sense i can make out of this song is if i interpret it spiritually, then it takes on a whole new meaning, to me anyway. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Krystal666 said: Oh you know it's just a man assuming he knows what is best for a woman. You know how alot of them are! what is he trynna do with this song? is he serious? there's been a couple of gay men i've met before, and i've thought wow damn shame, and far as i got in my head to try and convert them was thinking stuff like 'they wont know love til i've loved them' or ' i bet i could win u over with my heart' (disclaimer: im not saying anything about gay men here, just my personal experiences so dont nobody go all defensive on me)...but i never presumed to try to convince them that my vagina would be more attractive to them, or that they should try it cuz it looks different or that its the only thing that could give them real pleasure. has Prince always been like that? like, so desperate he even wants to make out to lesbians that his dick would give them more pleasure than another womans tongue or fingers or strap on or whatever?
im hetero so y'know, a penis suits me just fine, but lawd Prince wtf? lol the only sense i can make out of this song is if i interpret it spiritually, then it takes on a whole new meaning, to me anyway. Yeah well Prince always seems like the type of person who is very confident (yet insecure) and he seems like the type like he knows what is best for everybody. I just think sometimes when you want a person bad enough (like how he wants the girl in this song) you just are trying to convince yourself as much as them that you are what they are looking for. Not a knock against lesbians neccesarily just a suitor trying to hype himself up. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Krystal666 said: Oh you know it's just a man assuming he knows what is best for a woman. You know how alot of them are! what is he trynna do with this song? is he serious? there's been a couple of gay men i've met before, and i've thought wow damn shame, and far as i got in my head to try and convert them was thinking stuff like 'they wont know love til i've loved them' or ' i bet i could win u over with my heart' (disclaimer: im not saying anything about gay men here, just my personal experiences so dont nobody go all defensive on me)...but i never presumed to try to convince them that my vagina would be more attractive to them, or that they should try it cuz it looks different or that its the only thing that could give them real pleasure. has Prince always been like that? like, so desperate he even wants to make out to lesbians that his dick would give them more pleasure than another womans tongue or fingers or strap on or whatever?
im hetero so y'know, a penis suits me just fine, but lawd Prince wtf? lol the only sense i can make out of this song is if i interpret it spiritually, then it takes on a whole new meaning, to me anyway. More about your vagina.  | |
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Krystal666 said: sacredwarrior said: what is he trynna do with this song? is he serious? there's been a couple of gay men i've met before, and i've thought wow damn shame, and far as i got in my head to try and convert them was thinking stuff like 'they wont know love til i've loved them' or ' i bet i could win u over with my heart' (disclaimer: im not saying anything about gay men here, just my personal experiences so dont nobody go all defensive on me)...but i never presumed to try to convince them that my vagina would be more attractive to them, or that they should try it cuz it looks different or that its the only thing that could give them real pleasure. has Prince always been like that? like, so desperate he even wants to make out to lesbians that his dick would give them more pleasure than another womans tongue or fingers or strap on or whatever?
im hetero so y'know, a penis suits me just fine, but lawd Prince wtf? lol the only sense i can make out of this song is if i interpret it spiritually, then it takes on a whole new meaning, to me anyway. Yeah well Prince always seems like the type of person who is very confident (yet insecure) and he seems like the type like he knows what is best for everybody. I just think sometimes when you want a person bad enough (like how he wants the girl in this song) you just are trying to convince yourself as much as them that you are what they are looking for. Not a knock against lesbians neccesarily just a suitor trying to hype himself up. i guess i can have compassion for that but my feeling on it at the moment is hmpf 
spiritually though, i like the idea of him saying 'let ur love be feminine'. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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JonnyApplesauce said: sacredwarrior said: what is he trynna do with this song? is he serious? there's been a couple of gay men i've met before, and i've thought wow damn shame, and far as i got in my head to try and convert them was thinking stuff like 'they wont know love til i've loved them' or ' i bet i could win u over with my heart' (disclaimer: im not saying anything about gay men here, just my personal experiences so dont nobody go all defensive on me)...but i never presumed to try to convince them that my vagina would be more attractive to them, or that they should try it cuz it looks different or that its the only thing that could give them real pleasure. has Prince always been like that? like, so desperate he even wants to make out to lesbians that his dick would give them more pleasure than another womans tongue or fingers or strap on or whatever?
im hetero so y'know, a penis suits me just fine, but lawd Prince wtf? lol the only sense i can make out of this song is if i interpret it spiritually, then it takes on a whole new meaning, to me anyway. More about your vagina. i SAID - IRIS U SHOULD B AT HOME WITH UR PARENTS!! " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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I'll pretend I'm a lesbian so he can 'try' to convert me | |
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JudasLChrist said: sacredwarrior said: if ur a lesbian or u've got friends who r, do u think Prince could convert you or your friends?
i understand the song may not be about that, but if it were, could he make u straight? I'm not a Lesbian, but I play one on TV...er no. I remember showing the lyrics to a lesbian friend when I was in high school 20 years ago. She thought the lyrics were tedious. I agree with her, still. They reflect a common male misogyny and self absorbtion. The later T.C Ellis version trys to mask that misogyny in christian morality, but basically the song is disespectful to lesbians. You kind of get the idea that he wanted to write a racy song about the 'titilating' subject of lesbians and due to his lack of complex thinkig on the subject, "Bambi" is what he came up with. "Bambi, can't you understand? Bambi, it's better with a man?" Of course the semi-obvious subtext of this statement is that Prince himself knows how much better it is with a man via his own sexual experiences with men. His own heterosexism and discomfort with his own queer sexuality and transgressive gender performance leads him to project this false duel between hetero-normativity and gay sexuality onto Lesbians. "I'm not a lesbian, but I play 1 on TV"...that kills me! I'm sensing some homo-eroticism right here in this thread.
4 all U guys know, Prince has been with more lesbians than all the lesbians on this site (pardon the pun) put 2 gether...But if textbook theory's Ur game, g'Head and knock Urselves out.  | |
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Ha! I was pondering this the other day...now I know. I guess...kind of.
You ever notice how he thanked "Bambi" in the liner notes? Think this song was based on a true experience?   " | |
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christos7 said: JudasLChrist said: I'm not a Lesbian, but I play one on TV...er no. I remember showing the lyrics to a lesbian friend when I was in high school 20 years ago. She thought the lyrics were tedious. I agree with her, still. They reflect a common male misogyny and self absorbtion. The later T.C Ellis version trys to mask that misogyny in christian morality, but basically the song is disespectful to lesbians. You kind of get the idea that he wanted to write a racy song about the 'titilating' subject of lesbians and due to his lack of complex thinkig on the subject, "Bambi" is what he came up with. "Bambi, can't you understand? Bambi, it's better with a man?" Of course the semi-obvious subtext of this statement is that Prince himself knows how much better it is with a man via his own sexual experiences with men. His own heterosexism and discomfort with his own queer sexuality and transgressive gender performance leads him to project this false duel between hetero-normativity and gay sexuality onto Lesbians. " 4 all U guys know, Prince has been with more lesbians than all the lesbians on this site (pardon the pun) put 2 gether...) OMG! I think we all get the feeling that this is true! | |
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DanceWme said: I'll pretend I'm a lesbian so he can 'try' to convert me Great idea!!  | |
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sexxydancer said: DanceWme said: I'll pretend I'm a lesbian so he can 'try' to convert me Great idea!! lol wouldnt that be something | |
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bad sex is bad sex | |
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adorable2 said: bad sex is bad sex
lol what do u mean? " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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I always thought the song was supposed humorous... | |
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