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Paisley4u said: bellanoche said: I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. I am in no way a fanbot. However, what I don't understand is the constant bitching, whining, complaining, and hating on this site. One day it's 3121 is a flop, the next day it's the 80s Prince was the better, the next it's I want nasty Prince back, or Is this Prince thing over. Today, I saw a thread where folks are comparing him to OutKast and Timbaland... folks who were born nearly two decades after him and are heavily biting his style. WTF?? I just scratch my head sometimes at some of the posts on this site. I assume that some of these people must have really miserable lives. If I'm not particularly into what P's doing at a certain time, I bypass it because I know that at the end of the day Prince does not serve me or anyone else. He only has to be true to himself. Because of that, I am happy that he has chosen to share his gift with us for so many years. He is my favorite artist of all time because he is exceptionally talented and his body of work is richly diverse and appeals to me on so many different levels. What I love I love, what I don't I don't. Prince cannot be anyone's personal elixir. If you dig what he's doing at the time, then dig on. If you can't get into it, then move on. The great thing about him is that he is an ever-evolving being/artist, so I am sure that at some point you'll dig something he's doing. If not, put a period at the end of the sentence and turn the page. Just stop all the damn hating. It's ridiculous. Here is a man who is still creating GREAT music nearly 30 years into the game. We don't have to wait 4, 5, 6 years for a new Prince album. Decades later he's still sharing wonderful new music with us on the regular. Is everything he release great? No. However, it never was! There is always a hit or a miss based on your personal tastes - one man's trash is anonther's treasure. If some folks could step outside the suffocating confines of their own expectations, they would realize that and stop comparing everything to their favorite Prince song/era.  dittp  |
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setyrmindphree said: He does more between the hours of 11:00 pm and 6:00 am than most people do all day.
 If ur talkin about what I think Ur talkin about...  ummm nevermind.
All I expect is another tour b4 either of us dies and perhaps a casual drink at some stage afterwards, thats not 2 much 2 ask is it?  | |
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I think Prince is totally capable of creating another brilliant piece of work, but now he is too affected by outside sources. He lets his religious guilt come into play too often, plus I read in some book that one of his ex-band members or somebody said that sometimes he wants a hit so bad that he comprimises his artistic abilities. I think this was in reference to all his attempts at rap. | |
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No, because he expects so much from himself (and from us). | |
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BoySimon said: No, because he expects so much from himself (and from us).
That's an interesting point BoySimon, in terms of Prince's expectaion of his fans/fams/followers and hangers on...
He has specifically asked 4 many things hasn't he? I don't recall many other artist doing that. | |
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He's asked that we trust him, come with him on a voyage of emancipation (and cash) and to take him as we find him (albeit with a mass of contradictions that could confuse and hurt those who are trying to follow him (and who may possibly be vulnerable)). So, yes, he has asked a hell of a lot of those who wish to follow him. | |
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BoySimon said: He's asked that we trust him, come with him on a voyage of emancipation (and cash) and to take him as we find him (albeit with a mass of contradictions that could confuse and hurt those who are trying to follow him (and who may possibly be vulnerable)). So, yes, he has asked a hell of a lot of those who wish to follow him.
He also asked us 2 send him all our bootlegs and boycott WB on occasion. | |
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I can't think of a single WB act I've bought since Prince left... but the I tend not to look for a label, just good music.
The last boot? um... In all seriousness... some presents given to me last year. Me, not bought one for three or four years. If he gives me the postage, I'll send him my bootlegs. | |
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People expect 2 much from the man
Whose only mission is your EAR Be it hater or super fan He cannot erase your doubts Or remove your fears The fandom has taken root His Personal life Those high heel boots Whom should he take as his next …………wife? What type of influence has the purple man had on your life? Where does the madness end? When the music stops Or When the music begins? | |
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Graycap23 said: People expect 2 much from the man
Beautiful Whose only mission is your EAR Be it hater or super fan He cannot erase your doubts Or remove your fears The fandom has taken root His Personal life Those high heel boots Whom should he take as his next …………wife? What type of influence has the purple man had on your life? Where does the madness end? When the music stops Or When the music begins?  | |
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bellanoche said: skywalker said: The point is this: Prince has been many things to many people and he can't please everyone--just himself. We as fans can either go with it, or stop buying/watching/listening to it. Or we can just sit on the org all day and bitch about it to each other. I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. I am in no way a fanbot. However, what I don't understand is the constant bitching, whining, complaining, and hating on this site. One day it's 3121 is a flop, the next day it's the 80s Prince was the better, the next it's I want nasty Prince back, or Is this Prince thing over. Today, I saw a thread where folks are comparing him to OutKast and Timbaland... folks who were born nearly two decades after him and are heavily biting his style. WTF?? I just scratch my head sometimes at some of the posts on this site. I assume that some of these people must have really miserable lives. If I'm not particularly into what P's doing at a certain time, I bypass it because I know that at the end of the day Prince does not serve me or anyone else. He only has to be true to himself. Because of that, I am happy that he has chosen to share his gift with us for so many years. He is my favorite artist of all time because he is exceptionally talented and his body of work is richly diverse and appeals to me on so many different levels. What I love I love, what I don't I don't. Prince cannot be anyone's personal elixir. If you dig what he's doing at the time, then dig on. If you can't get into it, then move on. The great thing about him is that he is an ever-evolving being/artist, so I am sure that at some point you'll dig something he's doing. If not, put a period at the end of the sentence and turn the page. Just stop all the damn hating. It's ridiculous. Here is a man who is still creating GREAT music nearly 30 years into the game. We don't have to wait 4, 5, 6 years for a new Prince album. Decades later he's still sharing wonderful new music with us on the regular. Is everything he release great? No. However, it never was! There is always a hit or a miss based on your personal tastes - one man's trash is anonther's treasure. If some folks could step outside the suffocating confines of their own expectations, they would realize that and stop comparing everything to their favorite Prince song/era. You hit it! Excellent responses by you and Skywalker | |
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skywalker said: Here is the deal:
Different people expect a different Prince. Some want pop, some want underground, some want blues, some want funk,some want dancing, some want guitar, some want Lovesexy, some want 1999, some want their first time, some want their youth, some want Vanity, some want Cat, some want Jerome. Prince was under the pop radar in the 90's and people wanted him to return to the spotlight. Prince returned to the mainstream spotlight in 2004 and people wanted him to shrug of pop/Hollywood and be a cult artist again. Vainandy curses 1985 because he is into late 70's early 80's funk, he hates that Prince went psychadelic. For some, ATWIAD is their favorite. Hell, I remember when Batman was brand new and now it's almost considered "old school Prince". The point is this: Prince has been many things to many people and he can't please everyone--just himself. We as fans can either go with it, or stop buying/watching/listening to it. Or we can just sit on the org all day and bitch about it to each other. [Edited 9/7/06 6:49am] [img] How about two out of three? We can go with it AND bitch to each other on the org all day. [Edited 9/8/06 14:48pm] | |
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Prince is like Batman
he comes out when he wants to if we need him we can shine the bat signal [Edited 9/8/06 15:07pm] | |
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Graycap23 said: People expect 2 much from the man
[b]does Prince have high expectations of anyone? has he had high expectations of anyone? from what i have 'heard'... he has very high expectations of his fellow musicians, the women in his life, himself, and some who work for him. am i wrong? take yourself for example Graycap23... when he calls u ( as u claim ) he is expecting u will tell us what he wants us to know, and sit there getting cyber-bashed by people who 1. dont believe you and 2. people who call YOU a liar when he changes his mind about what he said for you to tell us... Now YOU may be more than happy to be a messenger, but that doesnt erase his expectation, which in my personal opinion, is too much. i cant say i'd ever expect anyone to do my bidding for me, to speak for me, or to take crap for me. so my question remains... perhaps people expect too much from him, but wouldnt that primarily be because he expects so much from others? what is the solution? " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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Graycap23 said:[quote]People expect 2 much from the man
Whose only mission is your EAR Be it hater or super fan He cannot erase your doubts Or remove your fears The fandom has taken root His Personal life Those high heel boots Whom should he take as his next …………wife? What type of influence has the purple man had on your life? Where does the madness end? When the music stops Or When the music begins?[/quot Can we speak English? If Prince didn't want attention he wouldn't have put those boots on in the 1st place. Nor the whole Prince machine. So..he's now got our attention. Cut to the chase.. I'd be happy with new music. Really, after umpteen years of Prince"s sexually explicit attire when it wasn't common...He's not used to negative OPINIONS??? This web site's pretty tame. He did alot of stuff pre-rap no one else was doing or saying. Forget the madness concept. I'd appreciate Future Influence??? ie.get yrslf inthestudio [Edited 9/9/06 0:49am] | |
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I think one of the reasons we expect too much as fans, is because he gave so much. A cd every year, parties, free aftershows,afterparties,celebrations and now nothing. That's the problem. | |
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sacredwarrior said: Graycap23 said: People expect 2 much from the man
[b]does Prince have high expectations of anyone? has he had high expectations of anyone? from what i have 'heard'... he has very high expectations of his fellow musicians, the women in his life, himself, and some who work for him. am i wrong? take yourself for example Graycap23... when he calls u ( as u claim ) he is expecting u will tell us what he wants us to know, and sit there getting cyber-bashed by people who 1. dont believe you and 2. people who call YOU a liar when he changes his mind about what he said for you to tell us... Now YOU may be more than happy to be a messenger, but that doesnt erase his expectation, which in my personal opinion, is too much. i cant say i'd ever expect anyone to do my bidding for me, to speak for me, or to take crap for me. so my question remains... perhaps people expect too much from him, but wouldnt that primarily be because he expects so much from others? what is the solution? I dig what U R saying. I have few suggestions 4 the solution but quite honestly I don't believe that there is a solution. People R people and they R going 2 do what they do. There is no CONTROLLING that, nor should one what 2 control that. The truth is STRANGER than fiction. | |
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I think Prince feels that you can either love what he does or you can leave. I never expect from him that way I don't feel disappointed at whatever he comes out with. | |
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Actually, I expect even more then he ever gave me. He owes God for his money and talent. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Graycap23 said: sacredwarrior said: does Prince have high expectations of anyone? has he had high expectations of anyone? from what i have 'heard'... he has very high expectations of his fellow musicians, the women in his life, himself, and some who work for him. am i wrong? take yourself for example Graycap23... when he calls u ( as u claim ) he is expecting u will tell us what he wants us to know, and sit there getting cyber-bashed by people who 1. dont believe you and 2. people who call YOU a liar when he changes his mind about what he said for you to tell us... Now YOU may be more than happy to be a messenger, but that doesnt erase his expectation, which in my personal opinion, is too much. i cant say i'd ever expect anyone to do my bidding for me, to speak for me, or to take crap for me. so my question remains... perhaps people expect too much from him, but wouldnt that primarily be because he expects so much from others? what is the solution? I have few suggestions 4 the solution but quite honestly I don't believe that there is a solution. mayb the TRUTH is the solution to everything... am interested in your suggestions. x " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: I think Prince feels that you can either love what he does or you can leave. I never expect from him that way I don't feel disappointed at whatever he comes out with.
Well I have been dissapointed before, but I agree with the first sentence. | |
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He is human, I thought TRC was next level shit though, he still has it in him. | |
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Even though we expect too much from him, he has the last word and decides what to do. So, I wouldn't worry much about what we all say or expect about him. | |
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sacredwarrior said: has he had high expectations of anyone?
Prince's Expectations are not High. Prince's expectations are warpped. Prince would like to think he has high expectations of people, that people tend to fall short of, but it is only that Prince truly wants others to fail. Prince's expectations are not high, they are low. Prince expects people to fail, and then he looks for reasons why they have. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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yes -
damn people he's just a musician i think his fans expect way too much from him just let him be and if you like his music buy it if it doesn't do anything for you don't buy it i just don't think he has it in him anymore, but that's my 2cents | |
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chakah said: yes -
damn people he's just a musician i think his fans expect way too much from him just let him be and if you like his music buy it if it doesn't do anything for you don't buy it i just don't think he has it in him anymore, but that's my 2cents chakah? I don't know maybe it's me. However the tone of you statement sounds a little upset. Are you Mad? News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: sacredwarrior said: has he had high expectations of anyone?
Prince's Expectations are not High. Prince's expectations are warpped. Prince would like to think he has high expectations of people, that people tend to fall short of, but it is only that Prince truly wants others to fail. Prince's expectations are not high, they are low. Prince expects people to fail, and then he looks for reasons why they have. fail at what? being better than him at something? " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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haha
not mad at all. been following prince since 1999 was in the 6th grade at the time but after a while you realize he's just a musician - albeit talented. | |
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chakah said: haha
not mad at all. been following prince since 1999 was in the 6th grade at the time but after a while you realize he's just a musician - albeit talented. I wasn't being serious. I was joking... There's a running joke from the "A night with Kevin Smith" DVD documentary where Kevin relays a statement told by Prince. Though your spelling wasn't correct. The phonics of your name seem fitting for a Chakah Mad, Chakah Real Mad joke. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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i know i don't expect too much because i never know what to expect but sometimes i am still dissapointed does that make any sense? | |
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