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Reply #30 posted 08/12/02 5:01pm

SexLovely

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lovemachine said:

SexLovely said:



What we should do now is estimate the TOTAL amount of everything Prince has sold. Do sum arithmetic with his Total Sales Amount and his Royalty Percentage and work out how much money he has made over the years. biggrin

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Nearly impossible.

In 1998 MTV said that Prince still made $5 million a year from his back catalogue so he is doing all right I reckon. They said that it had been his most successful year financially and that he had made $23 million dollars.

Knew U would say that.

Well thats strange cuz in Controversy they had a list of the Top Ten List of Highest Earning Entertainers of the Year and in 1991-1992 Prince earned 45 million. 5 million of which he lost in Law suits.
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Reply #31 posted 08/12/02 5:13pm

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joelmarable said:

WHICH OF THESE DID THE BEST DOES ANYONE KNOW? DID ANY CRACK THE TOP 50. JUST WONDERING WHY IT HAD NO PROMOTION OR VIDEOS ON RAINBOW AND RAVE.

I think Prince chose not to promote Rave & rainbow, not sure why
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Reply #32 posted 08/12/02 5:30pm

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SexLovely said:

lovemachine said:

SexLovely said:



What we should do now is estimate the TOTAL amount of everything Prince has sold. Do sum arithmetic with his Total Sales Amount and his Royalty Percentage and work out how much money he has made over the years. biggrin

Any volenteers?[/color][/b]



Nearly impossible.

In 1998 MTV said that Prince still made $5 million a year from his back catalogue so he is doing all right I reckon. They said that it had been his most successful year financially and that he had made $23 million dollars.

[color=blue:aeed678e31:ad04623a48]Knew U would say that.


Well thats strange cuz in Controversy they had a list of the Top Ten List of Highest Earning Entertainers of the Year and in 1991-1992 Prince earned 45 million. 5 million of which he lost in Law suits.


Was that how much the tour grossed, netted or how much he actually had made through tour and albums sales? Anyway this is why we will never know the truth to these questions. Tax returns are not public information so we will never no the actual numbers unless Prince runs for public office.
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Reply #33 posted 08/12/02 5:31pm

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If we get to an average per cd, things really get tough. Prince sold 36 million copies in the US, but he also had over 30 cds released officially, counting extra cds for SOTT, Emancipation, Crystal Ball and The best of Prince.. A little over 1 million copies per cd.
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Reply #34 posted 08/12/02 5:36pm

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PEOPLE, even with the most modest figures Prince still is a viable force in the music biz, if this was not true you would not have the backlash from the bigwigs every time he does something.
Record sales have been in constant decline during the last 5/6 years so even with those numbers you have to say he has done good considering facts .

Some record numbers prior to the 1990's have to be taken with a grain of salt because accurate numbers were not being kept.I live in a small city in Tennessee.We did not have a "major" record store here until 1981.The lady who owned the mom & pop record store used to say that she sold more records than the chain store & the big chains would inflate their numbers by buying large numbers of records before they were bought.Her numbers never would count toward these figures because they were trying to block her from getting the "newer" releases.

Has anyone ever heard of anything similar to this ???
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Reply #35 posted 08/12/02 5:56pm

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muleFunk said:

PEOPLE, even with the most modest figures Prince still is a viable force in the music biz, if this was not true you would not have the backlash from the bigwigs every time he does something.
Record sales have been in constant decline during the last 5/6 years so even with those numbers you have to say he has done good considering facts .

Some record numbers prior to the 1990's have to be taken with a grain of salt because accurate numbers were not being kept.I live in a small city in Tennessee.We did not have a "major" record store here until 1981.The lady who owned the mom & pop record store used to say that she sold more records than the chain store & the big chains would inflate their numbers by buying large numbers of records before they were bought.Her numbers never would count toward these figures because they were trying to block her from getting the "newer" releases.

Has anyone ever heard of anything similar to this ???
Yep Record Companys do Inflate Numbers alot.Prince came out in 95&said that take a 2Pac Biggie or a Snoop: there Record Sales from Mom&Pop Stores may be CLoser to 20 Million but there is no Soundscan in the Hood?? I bet Michael Jackson may have done 50 Million Here?Fuck SoundScan everybody who grew up in the 80's weather they Like MJ or Not know He Sold far more in a week with "Thriller" than Garth Brooks,N-Synch,Brittney,Backstreet Boys,Eminem Combined.Classic case of the powers that Be Hyping Sales is Vanillia Ice's Debut Album Sold Many Millions.come to find out that SBK Records Bought the First Million of it.the Label Head was Charles Kopplmen(Misspelled) anyway 6 years later He was present at Captiol EMI when Prince was Presented for His Awards for the "Emanciapation" Album.Madonna had alot of Albums touched up as if She Sold Alot more than She did.it happens to Every Major Artist especially over the past 12 years.but Soundscan is just like Nelson Ratings it doesn't come to the Hood.so we never truly know all the Numbers.
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Reply #36 posted 08/12/02 6:08pm

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With this being said what is P's Net Worth??question
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Reply #37 posted 08/13/02 2:37am

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http://www.riaa.com/Gold-Best-4.cfm

He only needs to sell 130,000,000 more albums and he could be number one.

Does anyone else find it sad that right above him for sales are Journey and Willie Nelson?


GARTH BROOKS at #3??? You Americans are crazy...rolleyes
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Reply #38 posted 08/13/02 2:44am

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Emancipation was "triple-platinum" debuting at Number 11 on the charts.



Actually,I think the last Prince album that went triple-platinum was 'Batman' in 1989.
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Reply #39 posted 08/13/02 3:24am

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FunkyBrotha said:

those figures u stated r bullshit! 8 million for bad and dangerous and so on, those were the figures like 5 yrs ago i remember reading those figures when history came out in 95 that was more than half a decade ago and before the new remasters and special editions came out! purple rain has been sitting at 13 million 4 years as well! also the US is only one country compared with the rest of the planet, if it has sold 13 million in the US alone and say 7 or 8 million in europe plus 3 million in the rest of the world (canada, australia, japan etc) it must have sold 23 million copies easy! lets just work this out -


controversy, dirty mind, prince and for u 3 million
1999 2 million
purple rain 23 million
atwiad 5 or 6 million
parade 3 million
sott 3 million
lovesexy 2 million
batman 2 million
graffiti bridge 2 million (went no 1 in the uk)
diamonds and pearls 7 million and thats official
symbol 2 million
come 500,000 (went 2 no 1 in the uk)
gold experience 500,000
chaos and disorder no point in even including these sales
emancipation 3 million
nps 1 million
rave 1.5 million
rainbow children 250,000
crystal ball 250,000
plus
the hits1,2,3 3 million
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the very best of prince ( dont know the sales figures but charted high in many countries, no 2 in the uk!

= 64 million



You are so full of shit. You just made up a bunch of numbers from the top of your head. Show me ANY evidence that the above numbers are correct.

Prince himself stated that NPS sold 600,000 worldwide and you have it listed at a million so there is one that is incorrect. Prince has also stated his worldwide sales at around 50 million, not 64 million.

All I ask for is ANY actual evidence. I have provided links to where I got my numbers from so all I ask is the same from you.



LOL...I was thinking the same thing.There is NO WAY that 'New Power Soul' could have sold a million copies!
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Reply #40 posted 08/13/02 5:25am

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lovemachine said:

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mmmn, no, i think u will find its sold 3million and it went triple platinum as prince has verified this at various times, ie the VH1 interview with Chris Rock!! and if the discs were counted individually that means that michael jacksons history album which sold 7 million in the US actually sold 14million and 26million worldwide i dont think so.


Click on the following link to the RIAA website to see that "Emancipation" is indeed certified as "double platinum".

Emancipation RIAA

Here is a link to the rules changes which explain how each cd in a multi-disc set count as one unit.

rules

Here is the relevent text from the page:
1992 Multi-box sets are redefined as two or more CDs (or the equivalent in LPs or cassettes) with a minimum running time of 120 minutes. The criteria are also changed so that each unit within a set is counted separately. The criteria for a Gold multi-box set now require sales of 500,000 units; Platinum, one million units; and Multi-Platinum, two million units.

So basically if you say that "History" sold 7 million copies in reality it sold 3.5 million copies.


...and just for fun click on this link to see how Prince's album sales compare to other artist's records sales.


http://www.riaa.com/Gold-Best-4.cfm

He only needs to sell 130,000,000 more albums and he could be number one. eek

Does anyone else find it sad that right above him for sales are Journey and Willie Nelson?


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[This message was edited Mon Aug 12 10:52:55 PDT 2002 by lovemachine]



why would one find it sad that right above prince for album sales is willie nelson... the man is an icon... he has made some of the greatest albums of all-time... his music speaks to a broad range of people, which equals increased album sales...
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Reply #41 posted 08/13/02 8:42am

markweaver

I had always heard that prince's total sales were around 100million,

That was on TV so could be crap
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Reply #42 posted 08/13/02 8:44am

aw35077

i'm sorry but I can't believe any record sales numbers..i know for a fact that the RIAA can't be anywhere accurate at depicting album sales, a lot of the albums sold don't get counted in certain areas.
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Reply #43 posted 08/13/02 9:05am

Brother915

I think those RIAA sales figures are for US sales only. Thanks for the RIAA link LOVEMACHINE.
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Reply #44 posted 08/13/02 9:18am

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dunno. shrug
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Reply #45 posted 08/13/02 10:13am

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aw35077 said:

i'm sorry but I can't believe any record sales numbers..i know for a fact that the RIAA can't be anywhere accurate at depicting album sales, a lot of the albums sold don't get counted in certain areas.



The RIAA claim that they measure sales as the total number produced minus returns, but Soundscan does indeed miss a lot of areas.
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Reply #46 posted 09/10/02 7:58am

Edu

Prince albums worldwide sales

According to Entertainment Weekly
(* Warner in Billboard article)
(** Warner in Forbes article)

Worldwide sales (September 1992)
in million

0.8 For You (=800,000 copies)
1.75 Prince (=1,750,000 copies)
1.8 Dirty Mind
2.3 Controversy
5 1999
14.7 Purple Rain (*4.5 outside US)
(Canada + UK + Germany = 1.8 million at least)
4.35 Around The World In A Day
(*3.65 - 2.7 shipped in US first week)
3.5 Parade (* 2.8 )
3.75 Sign Of The Times (* 2.9)
2.65 Lovesexy (*2.25 - 800k shipped in US first month)
4.4 Batman (*4.6)
1.95 Graffiti Bridge (*2)
5.8 Diamonds And Pearls (* 3.3 outside US)

**Symbol sold 3.45 worldwide

From EMI Emancipation shipped 1million (x3CD) worldwide
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