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Thread started 08/30/06 1:46pm

SlamGlam

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someone that knows music... Erotic City and When Doves Cry???

I gave a co-worker a ride to work and i had Erotic City in the CD... he said "you know this bass is the one from When Doves Cry"

i said "when doves cry doesn't have a bass..." he said "I know he slowed it down and built this song around it"

I was like "oh really" and did not say anything else.

is that even possible?
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Reply #1 posted 08/30/06 1:51pm

nurse

eek There should be a rule that when a person gets in a Prince fans car they should relax and don't say nothing, but enjoy the vibe eek . Lastly, I wish I knew the answer to your question, but I'm sure someone out there does. wink
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Reply #2 posted 08/30/06 1:58pm

Ifsixwuz9

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SlamGlam said:

I gave a co-worker a ride to work and i had Erotic City in the CD... he said "you know this bass is the one from When Doves Cry"

i said "when doves cry doesn't have a bass..." he said "I know he slowed it down and built this song around it"

I was like "oh really" and did not say anything else.

is that even possible?



He's wrong you were right. "Doves" does not have bass. P took it out before the album was done. "Erotic City" was P's take on a club hit called "White Horse" by Laid Back. P went on to say that George Clinton/Parliment influenced Erotic City, but one needs only listen to "White Horse" to see where at least some of his ideas came from.

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Reply #3 posted 08/30/06 2:22pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:




He's wrong you were right. "Doves" does not have bass. P took it out before the album was done. "Erotic City" was P's take on a club hit called "White Horse" by Laid Back. P went on to say that George Clinton/Parliment influenced Erotic City, but one needs only listen to "White Horse" to see where at least some of his ideas came from.

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"White Horse" is a classic. Fucking brilliant track.
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Reply #4 posted 08/30/06 2:30pm

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SlamGlam said:

I gave a co-worker a ride to work and i had Erotic City in the CD... he said "you know this bass is the one from When Doves Cry"

i said "when doves cry doesn't have a bass..." he said "I know he slowed it down and built this song around it"

I was like "oh really" and did not say anything else.

is that even possible?


The original had a bass but Prince removed it before the track was mastered.
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Reply #5 posted 08/30/06 3:57pm

BorisFishpaw

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SlamGlam said:

I gave a co-worker a ride to work and i had Erotic City in the CD... he said "you know this bass is the one from When Doves Cry"

i said "when doves cry doesn't have a bass..." he said "I know he slowed it down and built this song around it"

I was like "oh really" and did not say anything else.

is that even possible?


No it's not true.

When Doves Cry did indeed originally have a bassline, before Prince decided to
get rid of it. But it was completely different to Erotic City's bassline.
Erotic City has a simple 3 note descending bass line repeated throughout the
song. When Doves Cry had a more complex bassline that followed the root note
of the changing chords and had more of an ascending pattern (some of the live
performances over the years actually had the bassline reintroduced into the
song, pretty much as it had originally been recorded).
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Reply #6 posted 08/30/06 4:02pm

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When Doves Cry uses the tom sound in it's drum pattern to create a bass line without the traditional guitar or keyboard bass. There is a bass line created by the tuning of the electronic toms.

So there is something that acts as a bassline, but it's certainly not a traditional bass line.

and it does remind me of the way the (far effected) toms of Erotic City happen every now and then in the song, so I can see how he would think this.

or, are those toms in the mix of erotic city?
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Reply #7 posted 08/30/06 6:52pm

SlamGlam

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yeah that is what i thought... but he was sing it..."da da da" "when doves cry" he said they slowed it down...thanks for the info.
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Reply #8 posted 08/30/06 7:51pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

SlamGlam said:

I gave a co-worker a ride to work and i had Erotic City in the CD... he said "you know this bass is the one from When Doves Cry"

i said "when doves cry doesn't have a bass..." he said "I know he slowed it down and built this song around it"

I was like "oh really" and did not say anything else.

is that even possible?



He's wrong you were right. "Doves" does not have bass. P took it out before the album was done. "Erotic City" was P's take on a club hit called "White Horse" by Laid Back. P went on to say that George Clinton/Parliment influenced Erotic City, but one needs only listen to "White Horse" to see where at least some of his ideas came from.

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Someone mentioned this awhile back. I was so bummed! All these years I thought Erotic City was so original, and then I heard white Horse back to back and was surprised he didnt get sued!
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Reply #9 posted 08/30/06 9:53pm

christos7

DMSR said:

Someone mentioned this awhile back. I was so bummed! All these years I thought Erotic City was so original, and then I heard white Horse back to back and was surprised he didnt get sued!


"If U wanna B rich... U gotta B a bitch..." lol
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Reply #10 posted 08/30/06 10:05pm

Kissmequick

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christos7 said:

DMSR said:

Someone mentioned this awhile back. I was so bummed! All these years I thought Erotic City was so original, and then I heard white Horse back to back and was surprised he didnt get sued!


"If U wanna B rich... U gotta B a bitch..." lol


falloff

I said rich..... BITCH!

...off diggin' in the crates.....
pray God bless everyone. NO exceptions. pray
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Reply #11 posted 08/30/06 10:06pm

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Militant said:

Ifsixwuz9 said:




He's wrong you were right. "Doves" does not have bass. P took it out before the album was done. "Erotic City" was P's take on a club hit called "White Horse" by Laid Back. P went on to say that George Clinton/Parliment influenced Erotic City, but one needs only listen to "White Horse" to see where at least some of his ideas came from.

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"White Horse" is a classic. Fucking brilliant track.



The ultimate party "Just say no" song.
pray God bless everyone. NO exceptions. pray
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